COVID-19 'Pandemic'

Twin_Moose

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Then why was Trump mumbling something about steel dumping when asked about it?

Canada was guilty of it when Justine and Freeland were whining that national security shouldn't be used against Canada. We were importing steel and aluminum from China and selling it in the US through the NAFTA agreement, now we are exporting illegals through unsanctioned ports of entry what should their administration do? Smile and wave?
 

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Apparently China promised to give it back.



Once they use them they will ship them back.
 

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The latest numbers on COVID-19 in Canada

The latest numbers of confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases in Canada as of 4 a.m. on March 27, 2020:

There are 4,043 confirmed and presumptive cases in Canada.
_ Quebec: 1,629 confirmed (including 8 deaths, 1 resolved)
_ Ontario: 858 confirmed (including 15 deaths, 8 resolved)
_ British Columbia: 725 confirmed (including 14 deaths, 173 resolved)
_ Alberta: 486 confirmed (including 2 deaths, 27 resolved)
_ Saskatchewan: 95 confirmed (including 3 resolved)
_ Newfoundland and Labrador: 82 confirmed
_ Nova Scotia: 73 confirmed
_ Manitoba: 25 confirmed, 11 presumptive
_ New Brunswick: 33 confirmed
_ Repatriated Canadians: 13 confirmed
_ Prince Edward Island: 9 confirmed
_ Yukon: 3 confirmed
_ Northwest Territories: 1 confirmed
_ Nunavut: No confirmed cases
_ Total: 4,043 (11 presumptive, 4,032 confirmed including 39 deaths, 212 resolved)

'Worse' pandemic on horizon unless world deals with wildlife markets

The continued existence of wildlife markets, which are considered potential breeding grounds for the spread of harmful viruses, means it's just a matter of time before the world is hit with another deadly pandemic, some scientists suggest.
"If we do not deal with this, there is nothing to say that we could not in eighteen months' time have another outbreak, and it could be worse," said Kerry Bowman, an assistant professor and bioethicist at the University of Toronto's Dalla Lana School of Public Health.
Scientists believe the novel coronavirus that causes the disease COVID-19 emerged from one of these wildlife markets — also known as "wet markets" — in the Chinese city of Wuhan, possibly through an infected bat.
Bats are just one of the animals that are sold at these markets, where customers come to purchase domestic livestock and wildlife, including pigs, chickens, civet cats, bamboo rats, porcupines and pangolins.
But Bowman said shutting down such markets may prove extremely challenging, as these cultural practices date back thousands of years and have become part of a multi-billion-dollar global industry.
Spillover event
Bowman said the main concern with these markets is a spillover event, when viruses transfer from one species to another and then cross over to humans.
On very rare occasions, humans will transmit that virus from one person to another, which is what occurred with Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and, by all indications, is happening with COVID-19.
"Mathematically, this is not a common occurrence. But if you actually wanted to create a laboratory-like experiment to design the conditions for a spillover event, you would create the kind of wildlife market that you have in China," Bowman said.
In a recent video message about COVID-19, famed primatologist Jane Goodall warned that the close relationship between people and wild animals in these markets "has unleashed the terror and misery of new viruses."
SARS may have spread to humans through wild mammals. The Ebola epidemics in west and central Africa are thought to have originated from bats, while Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) is suspected to have come from camels.
All of these infected animals were in wildlife markets, where every day millions of people around the world still get their food.
Not just in China
Bowman emphasized that China is not the only culprit, nor is Asia "the only continent in the world that has this challenge."
"But it's particularly tenacious in the Far East, and extends into Vietnam, a lot of Southeast Asia, Indonesia," he said.
In February, China announced a ban on the trade and consumption of wild animals. But it also imposed tough restrictions following the SARS outbreak in 2003, only to see the industry slowly re-emerge. Many environmentalists say such bans contain loopholes.
The selling of wild animals accounts for "a significant portion of the economy. And it has created an economic opportunity for a lot of people," Bowman said.
There are different estimates, but Bowman said the size of the global wildlife trade is pegged at somewhere between $7 billion to $23 billion US a year.
Animals in unsanitary conditions
Bowman, who conducts research on this issue, said when he last visited a market in Wuhan, he counted 57 species of animals, about two-thirds of them wild, mostly of Asian origin. Cages were stacked on top of each other, in unsanitary conditions.
He said operators had "high-powered hoses that are blasting around urine, feces, blood from one cage to another to another to another."
In terms of the general concepts of infectious diseases, wildlife markets are "a perfect opportunity for the mixing of bacteria and viruses as well as transmission to other groups," said Jason Stull, assistant professor at the University of Prince Edward Island's Atlantic Veterinary College.
Not only that, but stress and malnutrition reduce the immune system of animals and potentially exacerbate this problem, Stull said. For example, an animal under duress may be more likely to shed higher amounts of virus.
"All of these things likely can contribute to movement back and forth of diseases," Stull said.
Many infectious diseases linked to wildlife
According to the EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based organization that conducts scientific research into emerging infectious diseases, about three-fourths of all such diseases are somehow linked to wildlife.
William Karesh, executive vice president for health and policy at the EcoHealth Alliance, said the current coronavirus outbreak was likely spread in two possible ways. It could have been a wild animal being sold in the market that contaminated the market. It's also possible that a vendor in the market was infected somewhere else and then infected their customers.
The animals that end up in the market are coming from two places — hunted in the wild or bred on farms.
Bowman said there are deep cultural roots with this industry — thousands of years of tradition of eating wild animals. As well, the animals are used for traditional Chinese medicine, luxury goods and the pet trade.
"What's really changed is that this has gone from occasional domestic use with emerging populations in combination with the burgeoning wealth to a massive commercial enterprise," Bowman said.
Focus should be on education
Karesh said ending these practices will take time, likely generations, and can only be done through education and helping countries improve their food systems.
He suggested that instead of banning all wildlife trade, countries should focus on those animals that are more likely to have viruses that can be transmitted to humans — like rodents, bats and non-human primates.
He said the international community must come to grips with the growing and unsustainable use of wildlife, or we will "continue to see pandemics."
"There are three to five emerging diseases every year, and only by luck and the grace of God ... they don't turn into pandemics each time."
 

Jinentonix

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Why the heck keep dragging that up?? Come on now. There are serious issues to deal with now....... so prejudices must be disposed of. Bad form Wally, bad form.
Serious issues? All you've done is piss and moan about Trump while saying NOTHING about YOUR PM doing NOTHING! Well, unless you considering closing the barn door after the horses escaped and the barn burned to the ground as doing "something".


YOUR idiot PM sent 16 tonnes of protective equipment to China leaving Canada with a SERIOUS shortage. YOUR idiot PM refused to try and protect Canadians until his precious little wife tested positive. Now the little f*ck is trying to go full dictator over something he casually blew off as no big deal just a couple of weeks ago.


It's astounding how many "Canadians" on here try to distract from their own raging dumpster fire in Ottawa by whining about what Trump does in the US.


Besides, Wally and I like to keep reminding the hypocritical, "progressive" mindless sheep that they elected a sexist, racist asshole, twice. But I guess sexism and racism aren't important unless Trump is somehow involved.
 

Avro52

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Funny part is, it wasn't even Spanish.
Go figure.

How does one identify someone from Kansas in a grocery store line so they can be yelled at and humiliated for creating a virus in a lab, spreading it to Spain and killing millions?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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How does one identify someone from Kansas in a grocery store line so they can be yelled at and humiliated for creating a virus in a lab, spreading it to Spain and killing millions?
Drool on the chin's usually a pretty good indicator.

But if it's tobacco brown, probably a Texan.
 

Jinentonix

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The USA has done it. America surpassed China today, with 15,000 new cases and counting. There are currently over 83,000 confirmed cases of COVID_19, and most likely over 500,000 unconfirmed cases.

Meanwhile, Canada appears to be doing a relatively good job of containing the virus. New cases peaked on Tuesday at just over 700, and seem to have plateau at 650 for the time being.

Canada has 4,000 cases of COVID-19 as of today.
Actually when you compare the population sizes and do the math, the percentage of both populations has roughly the same infection percentage. Remember too that the US has 10X the population of Canada while Canada's population is more spread out. 4000 cases in Canada equals about 0.001% of the population. 83,000 cases in the US equals around 0.002% of the population.
 

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I think the USA will be a very different place after this.

For a country that claims to dislike socialism, everyone sure is happy to get money from the government and the FREE Virus Tests.

I think Americans are becoming more dependent on the government and will be demanding more over the years, free healthcare, free education and other free stuff..

Trump has made 5 million Bernie Bros
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Actually when you compare the population sizes and do the math, the percentage of both populations has roughly the same infection percentage. Remember too that the US has 10X the population of Canada while Canada's population is more spread out. 4000 cases in Canada equals about 0.001% of the population. 83,000 cases in the US equals around 0.002% of the population.
You damn Canadian librul soshulists with yer numbers and yer math-a-matics!

We're Number One! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
 

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Actually when you compare the population sizes and do the math, the percentage of both populations has roughly the same infection percentage. Remember too that the US has 10X the population of Canada while Canada's population is more spread out. 4000 cases in Canada equals about 0.001% of the population. 83,000 cases in the US equals around 0.002% of the population.


So the U.S. has twice as many per capita?
 

JLM

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Serious issues? All you've done is piss and moan about Trump while saying NOTHING about YOUR PM doing NOTHING! Well, unless you considering closing the barn door after the horses escaped and the barn burned to the ground as doing "something".


YOUR idiot PM sent 16 tonnes of protective equipment to China leaving Canada with a SERIOUS shortage. YOUR idiot PM refused to try and protect Canadians until his precious little wife tested positive. Now the little f*ck is trying to go full dictator over something he casually blew off as no big deal just a couple of weeks ago.


It's astounding how many "Canadians" on here try to distract from their own raging dumpster fire in Ottawa by whining about what Trump does in the US.


Besides, Wally and I like to keep reminding the hypocritical, "progressive" mindless sheep that they elected a sexist, racist asshole, twice. But I guess sexism and racism aren't important unless Trump is somehow involved.


They have been pretty much in a dead heat, recently Trump possibly surpassed Justin in putting everything else above the importance of human lives. One of Justin's worst faults AT THE MOMENT is he will NOT address people's questions.
 

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Just now listening to a US economist on the BBC. He expects to see unemployment rise to 20 million in the coming weeks. An unprecedented 12% unemployment rate.
It would not be unprecedented.