Costa Concordia lift could spew toxic soup of rotting food and chemicals into sea

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In the old days a captain abandoned his ship but times have changed. The sucker who captained the vessel is being charged on manslaughter and some say he should be facing more serious charges. I wonder who is going to pay that billion dollar bill for removal, cleanup, and all other liabilities?

Insurance or the company that owns the ship would be the first ones to go for. If they cant, probably the Italian government.

This guy was far from the first to survive the loss of his ship. The captains of the Lusitania, Empress of Ireland, Yarmouth Castle, Andrea Doria, Britannic and the Mont Blanc all survived. Captains dont often go down with their ships if they can find another way.

Maybe those buddies of his on shore that he was trying to impress might pass the hat around and collect a few lira! -:)

Probably wouldnt be enough to buy lunch for the salvagers.
 

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Gotta like an event like this that's so over most people's heads-it really brings out the gibbering masses-look @ the idiotic bull posted here.

You ever heard of the term "banter"? With an event as unusual as this one in pretty well all aspects, I doubt if there is a manual of proper dialogue, and if some humour can be derived then that is a bonus!

In the old days a captain abandoned his ship but times have changed. The sucker who captained the vessel is being charged on manslaughter and some say he should be facing more serious charges. I wonder who is going to pay that billion dollar bill for removal, cleanup, and all other liabilities?

My first guess would be the average tax paying Italian.
 

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You ever heard of the term "banter"? With an event as unusual as this one in pretty well all aspects, I doubt if there is a manual of proper dialogue, and if some humour can be derived then that is a bonus!

Banter's great. But it's pretty easy tell banter from clueless mouth-farts. This place has the best of the former and the worst of the latter, in unfortunately equal proportions.
 

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She went down last October in a pouring driving rain.
The skipper, he'd been drinking and the Mate, he felt no pain.
Too close to Three Mile Rock, and she was dealt her mortal blow,
And the Mary Ellen Carter settled low.
There were just us five aboard her when she finally was awash.
We'd worked like hell to save her, all heedless of the cost.
And the groan she gave as she went down, it caused us to proclaim
That the Mary Ellen Carter would rise again.


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She went down last October in a pouring driving rain.
The skipper, he'd been drinking and the Mate, he felt no pain.
Too close to Three Mile Rock, and she was dealt her mortal blow,
And the Mary Ellen Carter settled low.
There were just us five aboard her when she finally was awash.
We'd worked like hell to save her, all heedless of the cost.
And the groan she gave as she went down, it caused us to proclaim
That the Mary Ellen Carter would rise again.


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Gotta love Stan Rogers.
 

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In the old days a captain abandoned his ship but times have changed. The sucker who captained the vessel is being charged on manslaughter and some say he should be facing more serious charges. I wonder who is going to pay that billion dollar bill for removal, cleanup, and all other liabilities?

I thought the Captain was supposed to go down with his ship.
 

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According to European friends of mine, it's worse than that. Even with the ship righted, there will be more costs. It'll be fitted with external floating compartments on the starboard side, and that's the end of the current contract, it doesn't include getting the vessel to the breakers yard, and it's not known whether those attached compartments will endure the tow. That's what happens when you hire firms with no real salvage expertise. The insurance companies involved are going to file charges against the Italian authorities in the European High Court for breaking the EU's fair competition laws, and for fraud, embezzlement, and anything else they can think of. Can't really blame them for that, otherwise they're on the hook for the over a billion euro cost of this salvage operation, after Smit Salvage offering to have that ship at the breakers almost a year ago for less than a quarter of what this operation's going to cost.

This isn't science, it's engineering. If you're going to indulge in mockery, at least try to know what you're talking about.

Is there any fizzics or matmatiks in engineering you stuffed twit?
 

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perhaps the costa Concordia could be sunk to create an artificial reef for marine life. :) :cool:
 

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perhaps the costa Concordia could be sunk to create an artificial reef.....
That happens all the time here-scuba diving is big business in BC- but it's just a stripped bare hulk that's sent to the bottom it generally takes at least 2 years to strip the ship of everything nasty-hydraulic fluids and the like there's a lot to it.
 

WLDB

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perhaps the costa Concordia could be sunk to create an artificial reef for marine life. :) :cool:

They cant just do that right away. To be a reef a ship has to be totally stripped of pretty much everything. When they sink them to make a reef the ship is essentially just an empty shell. It would take quite awhile to get everything out of this one. It would be interesting though. There arent any ships of a comparable size in shallow waters.
 

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Is there any fizzics or matmatiks in engineering you stuffed twit?
Science is about inquiry into how the natural world operates, engineering is about designing and building things that'll work in it, mathematics is the study of all possible patterns and is a tool of both science and engineering but it's not science, you ignorant idiot.
 

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Insurance or the company that owns the ship would be the first ones to go for. If they cant, probably the Italian government.

This guy was far from the first to survive the loss of his ship. The captains of the Lusitania, Empress of Ireland, Yarmouth Castle, Andrea Doria, Britannic and the Mont Blanc all survived. Captains dont often go down with their ships if they can find another way.



Probably wouldnt be enough to buy lunch for the salvagers.



Ah, meant to say that a captain did NOT abandon his ship in the past. But yes you are correct that some survived as such protocols have changed.
 

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Science is about inquiry into how the natural world operates, engineering is about designing and building things that'll work in it, mathematics is the study of all possible patterns and is a tool of both science and engineering but it's not science, you ignorant idiot.

Now now, boys!