Consevative Party leadership contest
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I am sure he has many friends,
Named Larry,Steve,Pete,Frank,Tom
Now he is meeting more friends,freely using two party names,
Sometimes politics reminds me of boxing in the old days,
Humans on humans
I view Mr.Kenney in a different light
And some ways I sympathize towards him
Regardless of Political Party
Proabition never works? The war on drugs rakes in billions.
A good read this thread lots of info about this leadership race. I think I'll follow it in the news. Times like these will bring out some amazing ideas I bet.
Rona Ambrose against Leitch’s proposal to screen for ’anti-Canadian values’
Rona Ambrose against Leitch’s proposal to screen for ’anti-Canadian values’ | Ca
Well, now we know where Rona stands.
People who choose to dress and act like they did in the 'old country', set themselves apart in ghettos, act like arrogant victims, and refuse to integrate into Canadian society are clearly sending one message:
"We didn't come here to become Canadians, we came here to make Canada more like our old country; you must change and accept us."
Rona Ambrose against Leitch’s proposal to screen for ’anti-Canadian values’ | Ca
Well, now we know where Rona stands.
People who choose to dress and act like they did in the 'old country', set themselves apart in ghettos, act like arrogant victims, and refuse to integrate into Canadian society are clearly sending one message:
"We didn't come here to become Canadians, we came here to make Canada more like our old country; you must change and accept us."
Idiot curmudgeons.
Basically, most conservatives until their mass exodus begins in 10 years.
Those of us who have been in the country at least one generation since our ancestors arrived. I have no problem with the term.
White Christians. Harper used that phrase during a debate about refugees. It's called 'dog-whistle politics' because only dogs can hear a dog whistle hence White Christians will understand what 'old stock' means........
Crushed in the last election, the CPC still can’t come to terms with the reality of the Harper legacy — mass rejection. Until it does, it will be where it is, standing on a creaky plank above a deep gorge in a high wind with dubious would-be leaders like Kellie Leitch jumping up and down on the rotten boards.
That is why you saw Michael Chong come out swinging against his fellow leadership opponent last week. Leitch, who said she wants refugees and immigrants to take a Canadian values test, is a one-woman wrecking crew for the party of MacDonald and Mulroney.
She parroted the Harper line, signalling that the CPC hasn’t learned a single thing from its recent electoral thrashing. She represents the abyss, not renewal.
The questionnaire that Leitch sent to supporters should be enough to scupper any remote chance she had of contending for the leadership — no matter how much money she has raised from her well-to-do suburbanites north of Toronto. Her questionnaire was as racist as a “no-colored” sign hung outside a public washroom in another era. The notion of forcefully screening immigrants for suspected “anti-Canadian values” would have made the communist-baiting Senator Joe McCarthy blush.
But there is more. This is the same pitchfork politician who couldn’t wait to front one of the great acts of bigotry in Canadian politics that occurred during the last federal election when she, along with Chris Alexander, that deeply forgotten former diplomat, pitched the idea of an anti-barbaric cultural practices snitch line.
No one in the Conservative Party is honest enough to say who actually came up with the idea, including Leitch. No wonder.
True, she shed a few crocodile tears about the whole thing later on the CBC. And now we know why. It wasn’t because she was ashamed of the idea, it was because she thought that the rat line was a dandy policy that the Harperites just failed to “articulate” properly.
Conservatives struggle to find party’s soul
Will opposing the rights of one million Canadians send Brad Trost to 24 Sussex?
Probably not, but the aspiring Prime Minister appears poised to make opposition to same-sex marriage the signature issue of his Conservative leadership campaign anyway.
Ads appearing recently on Facebook tout Trost as "100% CONSERVATIVE."
The ads feature two fingers sharing a heartfelt side-glance – the middle-finger is gendered masculine while the comparatively smaller index finger is gendered feminine.
The ad is accompanied by text that reads: "marriage is the union of one man one woman."
Trost's campaign confirmed they're behind the ad but cited confidentiality when asked who they hoped the ad would appeal to.
"Mr. Trost has been pretty clear and in no way supports the idea of gay marriage," campaign spokesperson Mike Patton.
And it's true: Trost has a long history of opposing "homosexual unions."
https://www.pressprogress.ca/conser...unches_online_ads_attacking_same_sex_marriage
Probably not, but the aspiring Prime Minister appears poised to make opposition to same-sex marriage the signature issue of his Conservative leadership campaign anyway.
Ads appearing recently on Facebook tout Trost as "100% CONSERVATIVE."
The ads feature two fingers sharing a heartfelt side-glance – the middle-finger is gendered masculine while the comparatively smaller index finger is gendered feminine.
The ad is accompanied by text that reads: "marriage is the union of one man one woman."
Trost's campaign confirmed they're behind the ad but cited confidentiality when asked who they hoped the ad would appeal to.
"Mr. Trost has been pretty clear and in no way supports the idea of gay marriage," campaign spokesperson Mike Patton.
And it's true: Trost has a long history of opposing "homosexual unions."
https://www.pressprogress.ca/conser...unches_online_ads_attacking_same_sex_marriage
That Brad Trost’s Conservative leadership bid is quickly becoming an embarrassment to his federal party isn’t really the problem.
That Trost wishes to represent social conservative viewpoint in this leadership race is certainly his right. After all, it is not uncommon for radical voices to be heard in leadership races (though it is absolutely common for parties — be they NDP, Conservatives or whatever — to quickly dispense with such radical views).
However, it’s the way Trost is expressing his view in his federal Conservative leadership run — the notion that his personal views supersede the views, and even the rights, of others — that is simply unacceptable.
But what might be even worse is the way in which Trost is now trivializing both modern, ongoing social concerns and even our worst historical injustices. This is simply intolerable — and offensive.
In doing this, Trost has adopted the Donald Trump political methodology of falsely feeding the notion that it’s actually the most privileged in our society who somehow are now the victims — the very thing widening social divisions south of the border.
To see it creep into our politics is sad. It needs to be called out.
It began with Trost’s proud proclamation that he’s a “a political realist” who recognizes he has no realistic prospect of changing Conservative Party policy, which now supports gay marriage. Alas, that hasn’t dampened his interest in firing up divisive sentiments among some fundamentalist Christians in this country that they somehow are being persecuted for their religious beliefs.
“So many social conservatives are now feeling discriminated against, and that’s why I think it’s still an issue that has relevance,” Trost said.
Trost bases this on the controversy over the private Christian Trinity Western University failing to get its law school accredited because its own code prohibits sexual intimacy outside traditional heterosexual marriage. That such a policy is discriminatory and defies both Canadian human rights codes and laws seems lost on Trost.
Not stopping there, Trost attended a rally in front of the Ontario legislature Wednesday to protest changes to that province’s sexual education curriculum. There, he made an absolutely bizarre proclamation:
“The most tragic incident in our history was the residential schools and that was the underlying problem: parental rights were not respected,” he said.
Actually, the tragedy of residential schools was children torn from the their parents, and physically and sexually abused — ironically, by those claiming to be acting on behalf of society by instilling solid Christian values in these children.
That Trost would spew such irresponsible ignorance while representing a province that saw some of the worst atrocities of the residential school era (see: the Gordon reserve residential school sexual abuse convictions) suggests it’s more than sex education that needs to be on the curriculum.
Is it any wonder past Conservative leader Stephen Harper (whose apology and condemnation of residential schools was one of his best moments as prime minister) worked so hard to keep Trost under wraps?
While Trost has wrapped his campaign around the Reform Act promoted by fellow Conservative candidate Michael Chong, which affords MPs greater representative say, what his campaign clearly promotes is more influence only for those who share his personal religious and socially conservative views at the expense of those who don’t.
This is far more offensive than Conservative leadership candidate Kellie Leitch’s “Canadian values” test, which — ironically — Trost opposes because he hopes some new Canadians share his intolerant views toward gays and others.
And Trost is wrapping this around the warped notion that it’s he and others who share his views who are the victims.
This candidacy is simply pathetic.
Mandryk: Trost’s views a pathetic embarrassment | Regina Leader-Post
That Trost wishes to represent social conservative viewpoint in this leadership race is certainly his right. After all, it is not uncommon for radical voices to be heard in leadership races (though it is absolutely common for parties — be they NDP, Conservatives or whatever — to quickly dispense with such radical views).
However, it’s the way Trost is expressing his view in his federal Conservative leadership run — the notion that his personal views supersede the views, and even the rights, of others — that is simply unacceptable.
But what might be even worse is the way in which Trost is now trivializing both modern, ongoing social concerns and even our worst historical injustices. This is simply intolerable — and offensive.
In doing this, Trost has adopted the Donald Trump political methodology of falsely feeding the notion that it’s actually the most privileged in our society who somehow are now the victims — the very thing widening social divisions south of the border.
To see it creep into our politics is sad. It needs to be called out.
It began with Trost’s proud proclamation that he’s a “a political realist” who recognizes he has no realistic prospect of changing Conservative Party policy, which now supports gay marriage. Alas, that hasn’t dampened his interest in firing up divisive sentiments among some fundamentalist Christians in this country that they somehow are being persecuted for their religious beliefs.
“So many social conservatives are now feeling discriminated against, and that’s why I think it’s still an issue that has relevance,” Trost said.
Trost bases this on the controversy over the private Christian Trinity Western University failing to get its law school accredited because its own code prohibits sexual intimacy outside traditional heterosexual marriage. That such a policy is discriminatory and defies both Canadian human rights codes and laws seems lost on Trost.
Not stopping there, Trost attended a rally in front of the Ontario legislature Wednesday to protest changes to that province’s sexual education curriculum. There, he made an absolutely bizarre proclamation:
“The most tragic incident in our history was the residential schools and that was the underlying problem: parental rights were not respected,” he said.
Actually, the tragedy of residential schools was children torn from the their parents, and physically and sexually abused — ironically, by those claiming to be acting on behalf of society by instilling solid Christian values in these children.
That Trost would spew such irresponsible ignorance while representing a province that saw some of the worst atrocities of the residential school era (see: the Gordon reserve residential school sexual abuse convictions) suggests it’s more than sex education that needs to be on the curriculum.
Is it any wonder past Conservative leader Stephen Harper (whose apology and condemnation of residential schools was one of his best moments as prime minister) worked so hard to keep Trost under wraps?
While Trost has wrapped his campaign around the Reform Act promoted by fellow Conservative candidate Michael Chong, which affords MPs greater representative say, what his campaign clearly promotes is more influence only for those who share his personal religious and socially conservative views at the expense of those who don’t.
This is far more offensive than Conservative leadership candidate Kellie Leitch’s “Canadian values” test, which — ironically — Trost opposes because he hopes some new Canadians share his intolerant views toward gays and others.
And Trost is wrapping this around the warped notion that it’s he and others who share his views who are the victims.
This candidacy is simply pathetic.
Mandryk: Trost’s views a pathetic embarrassment | Regina Leader-Post
It's gonna be Scheer as leader.
Who the hell is Scheer you ask?
Exactly.
If you don't know him it means there is nothing bad to say about him.
Who the hell is Scheer you ask?
Exactly.
If you don't know him it means there is nothing bad to say about him.
Softy balls does still have a show! I'd heard a few years ago he was returning to TV but all I have ever seen is that health commercial repeated endlessly.
Any ways enough about him.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZDnKsttGHQ
Any ways enough about him.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZDnKsttGHQ
I like Brad Trost for his stances on abortion and homosexuality. However, it would be extremely unwise to politicize it. Say where you stand on it in principle, but focus on other policies.
Bernier, I like his idea on returning to the gold standard, but how serious is he about it and, if serious, how precisely will he go about it?
Chong, I like his stance on a carbon tax, but don't know much about him otherwise.
Based on the little I know about Leitch, she appears to be out to lunch. Even I would fail her Canadian values test. Will she bring back the Barbaric Cultural Practices Hotline too?
My thoughts so far.
And Trost, I like his ideas on small government in principle. But again, what are we talking about here? If he means reducing government spending, okay. If he means reducing taxes, that could be a problem. Conservatives are known for cutting taxes deeper than they reduce spending. Sometimes they even reduce taxes and then increase spending. Tax cuts should be conditional on expenditure cuts. If Trost can convince me that he makes no promises on reducing or increasing taxes, but focuses instead on reducing expenditure, that can help too.
Bernier, I like his idea on returning to the gold standard, but how serious is he about it and, if serious, how precisely will he go about it?
Chong, I like his stance on a carbon tax, but don't know much about him otherwise.
Based on the little I know about Leitch, she appears to be out to lunch. Even I would fail her Canadian values test. Will she bring back the Barbaric Cultural Practices Hotline too?
My thoughts so far.
And Trost, I like his ideas on small government in principle. But again, what are we talking about here? If he means reducing government spending, okay. If he means reducing taxes, that could be a problem. Conservatives are known for cutting taxes deeper than they reduce spending. Sometimes they even reduce taxes and then increase spending. Tax cuts should be conditional on expenditure cuts. If Trost can convince me that he makes no promises on reducing or increasing taxes, but focuses instead on reducing expenditure, that can help too.
I bet the Libs want him to win the leadership.....
Tony Clement wants to be leader of the Conservative Party. Perhaps he believes that the third time will be the charm. But, Bob Hepburn writes (link is external), there are five reasons Clement should reconsider his bid:
Tony Clement’s leadership campaign is struggling to raise funds and attract caucus support, according to a source linked to the campaign.
The source, who asked not to be named, said the campaign has brought in an estimated $12,000, adding they didn’t have an exact number.
Given Clement’s competition in the Conservative leadership race, the situation calls into question how long the former cabinet minister’s campaign can stay afloat.
Even before the last fundraising quarter drew to a close on September 30, some of Clement’s opponents were trumpeting endorsements and large sums raised from donors.
As of early August, Kellie Leitch reported having raised $234,785.59 and Michael Chong said he’d taken in $84,689.38, according to Elections Canada data. Maxime Bernier claimed Thursday that he’s up to $450,000.
When iPolitics asked a number of campaign veterans in August how much a serious candidate would need to raise to run a credible campaign, the lowest number given was $500,000. Some suggested a figure closer to $1 million. The party has capped individual campaign spending at $5 million.
https://ipolitics.ca/2016/10/07/clements-cash-crunch/