Conservatives want to ban protests outside abortion clinics

Kreskin

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Selling Babies for $9.99 (Canadians and Abortion)

Name change to protect the guilty.
The guy thinks he has outsmarted the legal system (and healthcare system). He should do his research. His video is complete nonsense.
 

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So is trying to say planned parenthood doesn't deal in selling fetuses for profit.
Want to know who buys them??
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-immortality-financiers-the-billionaires-who-want-to-live-forever
The Immortality Financiers: The Billionaires Who Want to Live Forever

We all want to live forever, but some of us have the means to actually do something about it. Adam Gollner, author of The Book of Immortality, profiles five billionaires pouring money into longevity research.


https://listverse.com/2014/06/08/10-sci-fi-technologies-moving-us-towards-immortality/




10 Blood Factories

9 Growing Body Parts

8 Reversing Paralysis

7 Reversing The Aging Process

6 Next-Gen Medication Monitoring

5 Giving A Bit of Heart

4 Reducing Disabilities Caused By Stroke

3 Printing New Hearts

2 Bionic Arms

1 Suspended Animation



None of the above will apply to anybody who is not part of 'the big club'. You do get to pay for it though, all of it and then some.
 

Kreskin

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I have no idea what planned parenthood has or hasn't done. I'm telling you the guy was reading fiction.
 

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I'm sure the CEO's are determined not to be sent to jail for trafficking in body parts, right up to the point of denying the practice yet short of opening the books.


Richards speaking at an event for Hillary Clinton, October 2016

For being an 'honest person' she travels with some of the biggest liars in the US. Hubby is neck deep in with even bigger liars.
Pretty big donations for business enterprises that appear to be non-profit .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Adams
Post 2012 Congressional campaign

A few weeks after losing his primary race against Matt Salmon for a congressional seat, Adams became president of Americans for Responsible Leadership a political lobbying non-profit 501(c)(4). Adams has claimed as one of his responsibilities the allocation of funds[4] and directed $750,000 spent opposing Arizona Proposition 204, and $450,000 against Proposition_121. Under Adams' direction Americans for Responsible Leadership funneled a total of $11 million given by undisclosed sources via Americans for Job Security and the Center to Protect Patient Rights to groups in California who used the money to oppose California's Proposition 30 and support the anti-union Proposition 32. Prop 30 won, Prop 32 was defeated and California's Attorney General is considering a money laundering investigation against Americans for Responsible Leadership and those that directed its funds.[5][6][7][8]


California's $11 Million Campaign Donation Source Tied To Koch Brothers, Research Reveals
Meanwhile, the Center to Protect Patient Rights gave over $55 million to 26 Republican-affiliated groups during the 2010 midterm election cycle alone, focusing on a litany of issues from abortion to homeland security. An investigation by the Los Angeles Times discovered several ties between the Center and the Koch brothers. The group has long been considered by some critics as a pass-through for other individuals and organizations looking to inject money into the political system while keeping their identities hidden.
In this particular instance, Americans for Job Security used the Center to Protect Patient Right to funnel money into California. In the past, the same relationship has worked in the other direction. According to IRS filings, the Center to Protect Patients gave American for Job Security $4.8 million in 2010.
This labyrinthine network of using different, inter-connected groups to funnel money into the political system has become increasingly common in the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court's Citizen's United decision, which opened the door to virtually unlimited campaign contributions by outside groups.
Under IRS rules, Americans for Responsible Leadership isn't required to disclose the identity of its contributors. But money also can't be donated to the nonprofit with the explicit purpose of then being spent on a specific campaign.
"A (c)(4) should not be created to disguise political action," Harris explained. "The law dictates that a donation can be made to a non-profit, but not earmarked to support or oppose a ballot measure."
In addition to forcing the disclosure of its donors, officials have threatened additional action against ARL.
"This isn't going to stop here," Fair Political Practices Commission Chairwoman Ann Ravel told the San Jose Mercury News. "They admitted to money laundering. We agreed to do this without an audit because we wanted to get information to the public before the election. But we in no way agreed this would preclude further action."
The $11 million donation was the largest single donation in California this election cycle and immediately drew the ire of Democratic politicians. Leaders on the left have spent much of the past year pushing Proposition 30, a ballot measure backed by California Governor Jerry Brown that temporarily raises sales taxes and top marginal tax rates to avoid drastic cuts to the state's public education system.
"Someone's been using a phony non-profit in Arizona to funnel money from unnamed donors into our state," wrote Brown in a particularly passionate fundraising letter sent out last week. "Let's not let Arizona bandits steal our democracy."
Calling the governor's attack "politically motivated," Small Business Action Committee spokeswoman Beth Miller defended the donation in an interview with the Sacramento Bee. "Perhaps he doesn't like the fact that we have additional resources to get our message out about why we think that voters should vote 'No' on 30 and 'Yes' on Prop. 32," Miller said. "Pointing the finger and making baseless accusations is not going to further the political debate about whether these measures are worthwhile."

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American_Encore

American Encore is a secretive non-profit group (formerly known as the Center to Protect Patient Rights) organized under Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code that funneled more than $182 million in undisclosed donations to right-wing advocacy groups from 2009 to 2012, including Americans for Prosperity and the American Future Fund.[1] The Washington Post described it as a "major cash turnstile for groups on the right during the past two election cycles," because it received large amounts of funding from Freedom Partners and TC4 Trust as part of the $400 million Koch political network.[2] In 2012, the group's role as a part of an $11 million campaign money laundering shell game was revealed after the California Fair Practices Commission filed suit against one of its donors and recipients, Americans for Responsible Leadership.[3]

I have no idea what planned parenthood has or hasn't done. I'm telling you the guy was reading fiction.
More bullshit as shown in the above articles. Non-profit means no money for political contributions. Nor can you amass $100M in 'spare change'.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00314617&cycle=2016
Contributions to Federal Candidates, 2016 cycle



Total Contributions from this PAC to federal candidates
(98% to Democrats, 1% to Republicans) $690,048

2014

Total Contributions from this PAC to federal candidates
(100% to Democrats, 0% to Republicans) $587,128

Carly Fiorina says Planned Parenthood gives 'millions' to candidates | PolitiFact
Planned Parenthood "is an organization that funnels millions of dollars in political contributions to pro-abortion candidates."
Carly Fiorina on Wednesday, September 30th, 2015 in an interview on Fox News' "Hannity"

Here are the two major categories of Planned Parenthood spending from the 2014 campaign cycle:
Source of spending
Type of spending
Amount spent, 2014 cycle
Planned Parenthood Action Fund Inc. Federal PAC
Contributions to candidates and parties
$528,762
Super PAC and 501(c)4 groups
Independent expenditures
$6,058,338
Total
$6,587,100

In the 2014 campaign cycle, the Center for Responsive Politics found that groups and individuals related to Planned Parenthood spent $679,708 specifically on congressional candidates. And if you broaden that out to the entire 1990 to 2016 period, the number rises to about $3.9 million specifically on congressional candidates.
In 2014, the group's biggest recipients among incumbent senators were Ed Markey, D-Mass., Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., Al Franken, D-Minn., and Mark Udall, D-Colo. The four senators -- each of whom received a 100 percent vote rating from NARAL-Pro-Choice America -- received between $14,000 and $23,000 each.
If you include all recent years, Fiorina’s right that the amount spent specifically on candidates (indeed, just the congressional ones) did reach into the "millions."
 

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A politician playing political games... how original.

Not very. It is the standard Liberal playbook when hugely unpopular and hugely incompetent.

If she truly cared about the people she was protecting with this legislation, or the legislation itself, why should she delay it's passage?
 

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I have no idea what planned parenthood has or hasn't done. I'm telling you the guy was reading fiction.

like i am when I read your posts
:)

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Planned Parenthood exec caught on tape: I think selling baby parts is ‘a great idea
(you may remember her from the 2015 video)

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Planned Parenthood “Lamborghini” Exec Haggles Again Over Baby Parts Prices


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PLANNED PARENTHOOD “LAMBORGHINI” EXEC HAGGLES AGAIN OVER BABY PARTS PRICES IN NEW VIDEO
Dr. Mary Gatter, PPFA Medical Directors’ Council President, Calls Per-Body Part Price Offer “A Little On the Low End” But Admits Clinic Does No Work For It

Contact: Kate Bryan, kbryan@crcpublicrelations.com, 703.683.5004

LOS ANGELES, April 26--New undercover video shows Dr. Mary Gatter, the Planned Parenthood senior executive who infamously laughed “I want a Lamborghini” about payments for aborted fetal parts, again haggling over per-specimen pricing for livers, lungs, and brains, even while insisting the purchaser must do all the work to harvest.

The video is the second of a never-before-seen batch of undercover footage being released by The Center for Medical Progress.

At a Planned Parenthood conference evening reception, CMP investigators posing as buyers from a biotech company are introduced to Dr. Gatter for the first time by Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services.

“I wanted you to meet Mary Gatter,” says Dr. Nucatola, before Dr. Gatter steps forward.

Gatter was for many years the Medical Director of Planned Parenthood Los Angeles, before moving to the same position at the Pasadena affiliate, and then being elected President of Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Medical Directors’ Council. As Medical Director at PPLA, Gatter oversaw the affiliate’s partnership with Novogenix Laboratories, LLC, a local for-profit fetal organ and tissue harvesting company.

“I did it in LA, I’m committed to it, I think it’s a great idea,” says Gatter to the purported body parts buyers. Discussing the number of abortions at her Pasadena clinic, Gatter asks, “What kind of volume do you need and what gestational ages?”

During the conversation, Gatter advises, “You know, you have to pay a little money to use the space.” After asking for a ballpark figure, the buyer observes, “Most people now seem to be doing per specimen.”

“Per specimen. Like $75 a specimen?” Gatter replies. After the buyer asks for clarification, Gatter repeats, “$75 a specimen, or $50 a specimen?” The buyer replies, “What we’ve been quoting is $50 per specimen. I think some people are doing more, some slightly less.”

Gatter then comments, “Yeah, $50’s on the low end, $50 [per specimen] was like 12 years ago.”

The buyer then explains, “What we like about per-specimen is that way we’re not paying for [fetal] material that we can’t use, you know?” Gatter nods, saying, “Yeah yeah, yeah.”

Federal law permits reimbursement for specified costs in a fetal organ or tissue donation, but prohibits the purchase and sale of the organs and tissues themselves (42 U.S.C. 289g-2).

The buyer continues, “If we can get a liver, a lung, and you know, a brain--” before Gatter interjects, “But you would show up to do this? You would send somebody,” to which the buyer answers affirmatively. Gatter concludes the conversation saying, “Yeah I’d be willing, give me a call.”

According to contracts and invoices, the real-life fetal organ and tissue wholesaler companies Novogenix, StemExpress, and Advanced Bioscience Resources all made monthly payments to Planned Parenthood based on the number of resalable fetal specimens the wholesalers’ workers could harvest inside the abortion clinics. Planned Parenthood told Congressional investigators it kept no contemporaneous records of actual costs for reimbursement under the law.

The Novogenix contract promises Planned Parenthood Los Angeles $45 “per donated specimen.” Planned Parenthood Los Angeles does over 15,000 abortions every year, but has never publicly admitted how much money they received total under their contract with Novogenix. In December 2016, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Select Investigative Panel both referred Planned Parenthood Los Angeles and Novogenix to the FBI and U.S. Department of Justice for further investigation and criminal prosecution.

CMP project lead David Daleiden notes, “The fact that Novogenix, StemExpress, and ABR stationed their own workers inside Planned Parenthood abortion clinics to perform the harvesting, packaging, and transport of aborted baby body parts demonstrates that Planned Parenthood had no reimbursable costs under the law. The volume-based sums that Planned Parenthood charged these businesses for baby parts are criminal trafficking and profiteering in fetal body parts. The U.S. Department of Justice should take heed of the Congressional investigations’ criminal referrals and prosecute Planned Parenthood to the full extent of the law, and taxpayers must stop being forced to subsidize Planned Parenthood’s criminal abortion empire.”
(from youtube link)
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Canadians push back against law that jails pro-life witness outside abortion clinics

The Liberals’ proposed bill is an attack on free speech, says Fonseca.

“Are we living in the communist former Soviet Union? Or the Chinese communist dictatorship? How can it be that our supposedly ‘democratic’ and ‘free’ nation is punishing its citizens with prison for expressing an opinion of ‘disapproval’ over a subject of active political discourse?” he pointed out.

“Whether it’s abortion or some other controversial topic, expressing our opinions – and yes, even disapproving opinions – should never be punishable with jail.”
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c...w-that-jails-pro-life-witness-outside-abortio

hi Gopher hows it going
:)
According to the video and transcript I just posted, I guess fackt check.org may be the ones who need to have their facts checked
 
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Kreskin

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Your friend MHZ posted a video to support whatever it is he is claiming. The guy in the video said he could grow babies outside of a human female and do whatever ge wants to for the first nine months. This guy thinks he's pretty smart and informative however in Canada it's unlawful to grow an embryo outside of a female past 14 days. I pointed out that the video is nonsense, which it is.

Assisted Human Reproduction Act .

But you guys keep searching out sites like Rense and Lifesite and grasp anything to support your conspiracies, if it makes you feel good.
 

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I'd you are Cliff you believe you live in a pod in a giant warehouse. If you awake you go on a waterslide ride into a pool.
 

MHz

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Did you even watch the video? It is nonsense.
I watch all of them. I even watched the one where two reporters working for FOX about growth hormones in cows that got them fired when they wouldn't alter the findings as it was unkind to them and possibly illegal also. Guilty as hell but not prosecuted because they were protected by crook higher up on the food ladder.
Pedos are even more protected as my next posts will show.

The Canadian equal shows he has been a high level banker as well as other posts where you do what you are told and that if what Canadian arm of Planned Parenthood does, take orders from higher up

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The Billion Dollar Black Body Part Business

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Selling Parts is Very Profitable Business

Assisted Human Reproduction Act .

But you guys keep searching out sites like Rense and Lifesite and grasp anything to support your conspiracies, if it makes you feel good.
I doubt his business was based in Canada. Are you suggesting Canada is free from liars and crooks in business??

Feel free to post some articles from sites you trust. The links from Rense and such are to material produced by others who are experts in their various fields.
 

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I didn't see you mention any country. I was looking for clarification.

This is just to prove I have a sense of humor.

Were they dill or sweet?



There are people who believe strapping a bomb to a child is a one way ticket to paradise. I always get nervous when people use their kids for some righteous agenda. Like the Jehovah witness that drags a kid from door to door.

Emotional reaction can be normal. for example, let's say we allowed abortions up to the age of two, are you saying reacting emotionally would not be normal?
 

Kreskin

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MHZ, it's illegal to grow a fetus outside of a mother. I gave you a link to the Human Reproduction Act. Murder is illegal too. Would you like a link to the Criminal Code? The law is the law. The guy in the video is an ignoramus with no clue of how assisted reproduction works. That's hardly evidence to support whatever it is you're contending to be reality.
 

MHz

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Only in Canada you say?? Has anyone ever broken any laws in Canada. Torture is technically illegal in Canada and the US, that is why black prisons exist or are they also a figment of the imagination?

Canada's stem cell research needs 'big investment' to move forward, experts say - Health - CBC News
Canada's stem cell research needs 'big investment' to move forward, experts say


An early leader in the field, some suggest Canada’s commitment isn't keeping pace with the rest of the world

The field of stem cell therapy is growing rapidly with the promise to revolutionize medical treatments. But in order to take it from research to reality, experts say much more time, support and funding is needed.

Canada has long been considered a world leader in stem cell research — in part because the field was pioneered here in 1961, when Dr. James Till and Dr. Ernest McCulloch discovered the existence of stem cells at the Toronto-based Ontario Cancer Institute.
More recent discoveries by Canadian scientists include a method to change adult skin cells into stem cells and a way to convert blood into nerve cells.
"It is an exciting time. This is an area where Canada does punch above its weight," says Janet Rossant, executive director of the Ontario Institute of Regenerative Medicine.
But Rossant and other experts suggest our level of funding commitment hasn't kept pace with what's happening elsewhere in the world.
"When we're talking about investment in research, we are not, as a country, investing the same percentage in research and development as some of our competitor countries. But we do extremely well on relatively small investments," she says.


How exactly fetal tissue is used for medicine - CNN
How exactly fetal tissue is used for medicine

(CNN)Fetal tissue has been used since the 1930s for vaccine development, and more recently to help advance stem cell research and treatments for degenerative diseases such as Parkinson's disease. Researchers typically take tissue samples from a fetus that has been aborted (under conditions permitted by law) and grow cells from the tissue in Petri dishes.

Many of the uses of fetal tissue — and much of the debate — are not new. "It's just that the public is finding out about it," said Insoo Hyun, associate professor of bioethics at Case Western Reserve University.
In addition, the ways that fetal tissue are allowed to be obtained and used are not new either, Hyun said. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released guidelines on the topic in the 1990s.



How they get the fetuses and at what price is not part of the article. The important part is using aborted fetuses in 'the lab' is a billion dollar industry in Canada, in the US it would be many times that. The whole program is to find a way to make the Rothschild family truly immortal, while you are handed the bill. You are backing a dark horse and that is not the same as being the black sheep of the family.

You picked the right avatar, you look like a goof and your posts echo that.
 

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MHZ, it's illegal to grow a fetus outside of a mother. I gave you a link to the Human Reproduction Act. Murder is illegal too. Would you like a link to the Criminal Code? The law is the law. The guy in the video is an ignoramus with no clue of how assisted reproduction works. That's hardly evidence to support whatever it is you're contending to be reality.


MHz is easily fooled........................most fools usually are! :) :)
 

MHz

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As a member of the local Jewish troll club you two are not the ones to be pointing fingers. I challenge liars and you cuddle them. I at least do some checking and follow the right direction based on what the research shows. You go into the only mode the collective know, It can't be true, it can't be true, repeat until you are blue in the face.

Me
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Prove all things;
hold fast that which is good.

The local trolls.
Joh:12:42:
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

I have a conscience and I sleep soundly at night, the troll sleep soundly at night because they have no morals. I can live with the difference and my method will stand the test of time while being able to be honest, you have a mountain of lies to support and in the end they all fall apart.