True, but with our new office of Religion, we'll have to promote the use of the burka
Conservatives support Satanism!!!
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True, but with our new office of Religion, we'll have to promote the use of the burka
Hmmm!!! And since Atheists proclaim that their belief is not a religion.....Then they deserve no promotion or protection...........
Now we see the real face of the man who hides behind a sweater and a smile. I don't believe
Harper will stop there either. Religious based social programs could easily be instituted to give
power to a new group of friends. I am a person who believes we have different points of view
in this country and people should not have to depend on a church for support at a vulnerable
time in their lives. Government is responsible for helping to give people access to a hand up,
in the short term to help get them onto the pass of self sufficiency. That does not mean that a
government or collection of governments is responsible for providing a livelihood for people for
all time. However religious groups can play a part in that but at no time should they be put in
charge of social rehabilitation. Secondly we do not need a department of religious affairs to
cater or should I say pander to the whole world when it come to religion.
There are times when religion complains about persecution, when in fact they are being asked
to provide proof of their statements and scientific proof of their claims of miracles and such.
If you want to make public statements and profess certain religious facts then you as a religion
have the responsibility to prove the statements you are making and the claims you are making
are true. Mysteries of God are not sufficient as answers, acceptable proof, like scientific proof
is required. Matters of faith and the actual truth are two different things. Mr Harper, wants to
create a religious propaganda department to serve the central ends of a social conservative
movement and he wants you and I to pay for it, as taxpayers and that is not acceptable in my
books.
Harper will stop there either. Religious based social programs could easily be instituted to give
power to a new group of friends. I am a person who believes we have different points of view
in this country and people should not have to depend on a church for support at a vulnerable
time in their lives. Government is responsible for helping to give people access to a hand up,
in the short term to help get them onto the pass of self sufficiency. That does not mean that a
government or collection of governments is responsible for providing a livelihood for people for
all time. However religious groups can play a part in that but at no time should they be put in
charge of social rehabilitation. Secondly we do not need a department of religious affairs to
cater or should I say pander to the whole world when it come to religion.
There are times when religion complains about persecution, when in fact they are being asked
to provide proof of their statements and scientific proof of their claims of miracles and such.
If you want to make public statements and profess certain religious facts then you as a religion
have the responsibility to prove the statements you are making and the claims you are making
are true. Mysteries of God are not sufficient as answers, acceptable proof, like scientific proof
is required. Matters of faith and the actual truth are two different things. Mr Harper, wants to
create a religious propaganda department to serve the central ends of a social conservative
movement and he wants you and I to pay for it, as taxpayers and that is not acceptable in my
books.
It's not promoting a religion. It's promoting religious freedom.
That's the government protecting religious freedom, not the Vatican or the Jewish Congress.
Do they need help from the government with that? I never thought so. Most it's just people who fall out of the don't question dogma too much category and accepted that there isn't a single shred of actual proof of a God. I've always thought that was something you came to yourself rather than having someone promote it or attempt to protect it.
Of course, argument could be made for the freedom from religion too. While you have the right to it, I also have the right not to have it forced upon me.
I would point out that religion in politics often goes rather bad before long.
So you accept that it's not protecting religion?
I don't think so. The government makes laws and complaints bring the issue to courts attention to rule and enforce the law or strike it down, which ever the case may be.
In this way, we don't have government spending money and people dying to protect something that concerns no one in Canada.
If you feel that government protecting religious freedom is the government making a law that states the people are free to follow their chosen religion, ok but I find that a very broad statement to the point of being meaningless.
I think since Harpo has so much support for minority religions I may just start my own. A few of the new religious beliefs of the church of Politicalnick:
1- taxes are a huge sin and never to be paid
2- gun ownership is mandatory
3- Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all holy days and no work shall be done
4- all statutory laws are a sin and not to be followed
5- see #1
6- see #1 again.
I will be nice to have the support of the federal government as a minority religion and should make for some interesting conversations with various government departments as to my religios freedoms vs their rules.
1- taxes are a huge sin and never to be paid
2- gun ownership is mandatory
3- Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all holy days and no work shall be done
4- all statutory laws are a sin and not to be followed
5- see #1
6- see #1 again.
I will be nice to have the support of the federal government as a minority religion and should make for some interesting conversations with various government departments as to my religios freedoms vs their rules.
Cool... My God lives within me. Where's my loot, my tax exemption ... and don't nobody bug me.... ;-)
I'm not sure what this office is going to do. I doubt it would be imposing itself on foreign states, so it's unlikely to be protecting religious freedom and in Canada we already have institutions that do that.
In fact, in Canada we already have government funded organizations that promote religious freedom.
A principal part of our democratic values is that they are universal. So it is consistent with those values that the government promote them overseas.
How is that not the government protecting religious freedom? Making and enforcing laws, hearing complaints. How else do you think religious freedom is protected?
And enforcing the law. That's exactly what is it. You're describing to me how the government protects religious freedom exactly and then saying that's not that government protecting religious freedom.
In the US military, if you request the Chaplin to do a service Church of Satan style he is obliged which would mean the Church of Satan is fully legitimate in the eyes of the US Gov and probably get tax free exemptions.
I doubt Canada is too far behind if not paralell.