Conservatives blame Media for Canada's failure to address Refugee Crisis

[DaSleeper]

Who's 'WE ' champ?

Besides, the UN is as useless as teats on a bull... Other than you, no one gives a crap about what they have to say

Agenda 21 should be required Reading for all U. N. fans.....

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

 

[Glacier]

The Conservatives have been in office too long, and made too many mistakes to get the public's approval for another term. But enter the Syrian crisis. If the media and the left continue to screw this one up, they could very well end up handing the cons another victory. The latest poll shows that the majority of people want the government to do the same or less on bringing in refugees. I have many friends who are NDP supporters coming right out on Facebook and saying the government should do less. Meanwhile, the media is trying to shame the government into doing more as if only the lunatic fringe would not do more.

 

[lone wolf]

I think if their affairs hadn't been meddled in, dependency created, then abandonment when they were no longer of any use to outside powers, religious crackpots, Al Quaida and ISIS would never have been seen as replacements. History repeats, and has been doing so for the entire history of the "Holy" lands

 

[EagleSmack]

We should be taking in as much refugees as possible and giving them mandatory language training.

Mandatory Language Training! LMAO!


Yeah that will work.


Flossy you're becoming Super Tard

 

[mentalfloss]

Language classes funded by the Government of Canada

 

[captain morgan]

Mandatory Language Training! LMAO!


Yeah that will work.


Flossy you're becoming Super Tard

'Becoming' is the wrong word to use in this case ES

Language classes funded by the Government of Canada

Hilarious... What with this massive recession that you've been going on about, I'd wager that you're going to see funding cuts to a number of non-core programs.

Can you hazard a guess, a wild stab, at what will happen to the aforementioned language classes?

 

[Mowich]

So Justin wants us to open our doors to 25,000 refugees IMMEDIATELY. Just where the heck are these folks going to go, huh? Camps? Shelters? Where? He says nothing about checks on these folks to find out if indeed they really are refugees and not some addle brained subversive coming here to create mayhem. Stuff you, Justin.

 

[MHz]

some addle brained subversive

The odds are we or our friends helped train them to be that way so why shouldn't we be the ones that get saddled with them?

 

[Mowich]

The odds are we or our friends helped train them to be that way so why shouldn't we be the ones that get saddled with them?

Link please. Would really like to know which branch of our government or our friend's government is tasked with the job of training foreign subversives.

 

[JLM]

So Justin wants us to open our doors to 25,000 refugees IMMEDIATELY. Just where the heck are these folks going to go, huh? Camps? Shelters? Where? He says nothing about checks on these folks to find out if indeed they really are refugees and not some addle brained subversive coming here to create mayhem. Stuff you, Justin.

Not to mention the care many of them are going to require for years to come. The man is an idiot. Harper has the right idea.............deal with the source!

 

[Mowich]

Not to mention the care many of them are going to require for years to come. The man is an idiot. Harper has the right idea.............deal with the source!

I have no objection to Canada taking in refugees, JLM - none. Make an application and we'll check you out. What I do object to is this notion that we simply open our borders and say "Come on in".

 

[JLM]

I have no objection to Canada taking in refugees, JLM - none. Make an application and we'll check you out. What I do object to is this notion that we simply open our borders and say "Come on in".

I agree but in sane numbers, let's process a couple of dozen to start with. Slightly off track but when I was working in your country 47 years ago, the situation on the Canim Lake Reserve was deplorable. Have things improved there?

 

[mentalfloss]

'How to sponsor a Syrian?' is Canada's top Google query on refugees
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/trending/how-to-sponsor-a-refugee-syria-canada-1.3215814

 

[Glacier]

I have no objection to Canada taking in refugees, JLM - none. Make an application and we'll check you out. What I do object to is this notion that we simply open our borders and say "Come on in".

You mean like the NDP, who were saying that the Conservatives were responsible for the child's death because they denied the application from the parents. Then Citizenship and Immigration Canada had to clarify that the NDP was lying because it received no refugee application from the father of the two drowned boys. It did, however, receive an application for Abdullah Kurdi's brother, Mohammed, but said it was incomplete and did not meet regulatory requirements for proof of refugee status recognition.

 

[MHz]

Link please. Would really like to know which branch of our government or our friend's government is tasked with the job of training foreign subversives.

Do you want the 186 pages of links that say the same thing?

US training just 60 Syrian rebels as part of $500m programme | The National
NEW YORK // The US military only has 60 recruits in its US$500 million (Dh1.8bn) programme aimed at training and arming a force of moderate Syrian rebels to fight ISIL, the US secretary of defence has admitted.
The train-and-equip programme was funded by congress last year, with the goal of producing around 5,000 Syrian fighters a year over three years. These fighters would build an on-the-ground partner force for the United States in Syria, theoretically capable of beating back ISIL and holding retaken territory.
But hostile questioning by Republican members of the senate armed services committee during a congressional hearing on Tuesday led to the revelation that the programme – which is based in Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Qatar – has barely got off the ground.
Defence secretary Ash Carter said that the stringent vetting process was the primary reason for the “small class”.
“This is the number that got through a very vigorous vetting and selection process that we have,” he said.
Mr Carter defended the programme, saying that there are 7,000 prospective rebel recruits still in the vetting process and that “as training progresses, we are learning more about the opposition groups and building important relationships, which increases our ability to attract recruits and provides valuable intelligence for counter-ISIL operations”.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

'How to sponsor a Syrian?' is Canada's top Google query on refugees
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/trending/how-to-sponsor-a-refugee-syria-canada-1.3215814

Have you sponsored yours yet? Actually made a difference? Or just spouted your rhetoric on the internet? I thought so.

 

[JamesBondo]

There are an estimated 16.7 million refugees in the world today. Countries with resettlement programs resettle about 100,000 refugees from abroad each year. Of that number, Canada annually takes in roughly one out of every 10 refugees, through the government-assisted and privately sponsored refugee programs.

While there is room for improvement. Canada has done more than its equal share. Any NDP MP suggesting that our tradition of doing so has been lost, is clearly a political hack.

 

[Locutus]

Are you daft?

TODAY'S QUESTION

How can Canada best address the migrant crisis?

Accepting more refugees
981 (24 %)

Fighting Islamic State
2113 (51 %)

Sending aid 1010 (25 %)

Total number of votes: 4104


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Oh, and it turns out the family hadn't applied to come to Canada, after all.

Don PeatVerified account ‏@reporterdonpeat

Statement from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada on the Kurdi family #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/reporterdonpeat/status/639504550517440513/photo/1

Stephen Taylor ‏@stephen_taylor

The tragic thing is that after the election, politicians and the media will stop caring about these refugees. Political impact fueling this.


Between 2003 and 2013, Canada ranked #2 in the world accepting refugees resettled by UNHCR.

> Why Does Canada Accept Refugees?

you should quit while you're behind kid. :lol:

 

[pgs]

We should be taking in as much refugees as possible and giving them mandatory language training.

It's the biggest boon to the economy that we can ask for.


Reid: Chris Alexander just the latest example of how politics debases even the best of us | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com

What ever happened to Chris Alexander?

The once promising boy-wonder of the Canadian foreign service has become a cautionary tale about what happens to those who fall in with the wrong crowd. It’s a remarkable story not only because of his obvious promise but because, in this instance, the wrong crowd happens to be the hard-cases who run our country’s governing party.

Blessed with Jimmy Stewart posture and an accompanying aw-shucks charm, the Oxford-educated Alexander won early attention as Canada’s first resident Ambassador to Afghanistan in 2003. He was only 34 years old. After an additional stint in the war-ravaged country as a UN Special Representative, earning him deserved plaudits at home and abroad, he returned to Canada to take up the higher calling of public office, winning his way into Parliament in the 2011 election. Two years later he was named Minister of Citizenship and Immigration.

It’s a story that provokes comparisons to the likes of Lester B. Pearson, almost smacking of an individual manifest destiny – the diplomatic prodigy who rises right to the top and one day leads our politics toward a more enlightened and understanding place. The inclination to like him, to believe in him, was strong. He stirred interest even among those who don’t usually vote Conservative – maybe for this guy someday they would. Maybe he was special.

Unfortunately, Alexander has often disappointed.

Instead of bringing diplomatic grace to the practice of politics, he has frequently proven himself a devoted student of the poison-tipped partisanship that so thoroughly defines the Harper Conservatives. During his time in Ottawa he has done what it takes to get noticed, win advancement and gain the favour of a prime minister who prefers spear-throwers to problem solvers. The former ambassador has conquered Ottawa by becoming a foot soldier, another suit of armour in Harper’s Talking Points army. It’s been a shame to see.

The most recent and strident example came this week with his early handling of the Syrian refugee crisis. The limp, lifeless image of a little boy whose family hoped to escape tyranny has seized the attention of people around the world — a haunting snapshot that shreds the gut of any parent. As the father of four boys, I admit to succumbing to emotion on the matter. It clouds my mind and makes me rage to do something to help. I’d like to see our government do more to help also.

Maybe it’s a bad idea to make policy by way of Instagram. Maybe it’s right to say that this crisis has been brewing for years and that thousands of other boys have been lying abandoned and dead on beaches. Maybe it’s kneejerk and unfair – improvised and impetuous. Maybe. Or maybe past indifference is no excuse for an inadequate ongoing effort. Maybe a single searing image is what’s sometimes required to jolt people out of their lethargy, galvanize public interest and brew popular demand for a fuller response.

Our government’s policy to date, championed by this minister, has not been sufficiently robust – taking in too few people in need, relying too much on private sector sponsors in the place of direct government action and permitting domestic politics to infect our humanitarian response. Of course we can’t save every life at risk. But we can do a lot more than we have been doing.

In fairness, it is complex and unforgiving territory. Immigration ministers have been striking the wrong balance, playing to the political bleachers and screwing up our refugee policy for decades, in governments of every stripe. On top of all that, let’s keep in mind that Alexander has a boss. He serves at the pleasure of the prime minister. So perhaps we’re expecting too much to expect much different.

Harder to excuse was the petty, nasty tone that accompanied Alexander’s initial defence of the government’s refugee policy. He scolded critics, deflected responsibility, questioned others’ commitment and, when backed into a corner of his own making, attacked the media as being to blame for it all. It came to a head on the Wednesday edition of CBC’s Power and Politics. Alexander grew hostile as he struggled to explain his position, eventually challenging the show’s host, Rosemary Barton. In full bluster, he tried bullying her, saying that the network had never discussed the issue before (not true) and had certainly never before interviewed him on the topic (only true because he had refused to participate in such broadcasts).

Barton would have none of it. On live television, she corrected Alexander’s mischaracterizations and then put the boots to him hard. At least the next night, after suspending his campaign to concentrate on the crisis (which critics were wrong to dismiss as an empty gesture, it was the right thing to do) he redeemed himself slightly with a more composed performance.

But it’s not the first time he’s played the part of the unthinking partisan. Watching Wednesday night’s spectacle, one had to wonder what’s gone wrong. Where did that original Chris Alexander go? Up there on the screen that might as well have been Paul Calandra or Pierre Poilievre, government spokespersons that we’ve come to associate with transparent posturing.

That’s the really troubling thing. Alexander, a knowledgeable, talented and presumably well-motivated person, someone whose history and abilities once inspired sincere hopes for great things has allowed himself to become just another one of “them.” A snapping, snarling partisan.

Not because he’s a bad person. Not because he’s taken this particular stand on this particular issue. But because that’s what politics – specifically politics as it’s currently practiced on Parliament Hill – does to people. It brings them low.

If the Conservatives lose this election, don’t underestimate how much this sort of thing contributes to their downfall. When even the likes of Chris Alexander can be so diminished people can see that something about our politics simply has to change.

Scott Reid is a principal at Feschuk.Reid and a CTV News political analyst. He was director of communications for former prime minister Paul Martin. Follow him on Twitter.com/_scottreid.

Reid: Chris Alexander just the latest example of how politics debases even the best of us | Ottawa Citizen

So Paul Martin's ex communication director's opinion is relevant , how ?

 

[MHz]

Let the Indians take them in and deduct the rent they get from the funds that come from the taxpayer's pockets (which seem like a big deal to only a certain few here)