Conservative White Males Climate Skeptics

waldo

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the Daily Mail "journalist", David Rose, has absolutely no credibility, none whatsoever... the worst of the worst tabloid misinformers!

again, that article speaks to a single year sea-ice extent change... year-to-year change. Let me focus you again on the 2 declining trend images I put forward in the post you're replying to; apparently, you choose to simply ignore these long-term declining trend images:



notwithstanding, again, any single year change in sea-ice extent is termed 'First-Year Ice'... it only becomes "Multi-Year Ice" (as in building multiple layers of ice), if a subsequent year's melting phase... doesn't melt it! Which is why I (also) emphasized the decreasing volume trend.

by the by, peppering a post with on-line comments, any post... adds... uhhh..... what value?

No. It's called bollocks.

no - you can't slag the greenhouse effect as it's responsible for keeping the earth warm enough for basic human survival. Tell me, what would happen to the earth/mankind if your described "bollocks greenhouse effect" didn't exist?

The warming of the relatively recent period was entirely natural and was a result of the ending of the Little Ice Age which gripped the world between around 1350 to around 1850.

natural? What natural influences... natural forcing factors, natural physical mechanisms? Your "coming out of the Little Ice Age (LIA) warming" premise is based on accepting that the causes behind the LIA energy imbalance cooling have since changed state to now cause a positive radiative forcing... and the related relatively recent global warming. Oh wait, is there where you now state the LIA cooling was... also natural in cause? :lol:

The natural warming of the Earth's climate as a result of the end of the little Ice Age has led to more CO2 in the atmosphere. A warming atmosphere leads to more natural CO2. It's NOT the case that more CO2 is causing the atmosphere to warm up. It's just you Global Warmists who have got it all a*rse about ***, as usual. If you don't believe me, do your own research.

Natural CO2? From where... originating, from where? if you've, as you say, "done the research", can you provide references to that end... most pointedly references that speak to the atmospheric carbon isotope variants of CO2 and the respective C13/C12 & C14/C12 isotope ratio equivalents to support your claim that increased/accelerated CO2 today is reflective of your claim that the, "CO2 is natural in origin"?
 

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"It's not a biological or gender thing," he said. "It's a political thing." Liberal white males are more accepting of government regulations and challenges to the status quo because it fits in their political ideology, he said.


"When you start talking about climate change and the need for major changes, carbon taxes and lifestyle changes, [conservatives] see this as a threat to capitalism and future prosperity," said McCright. "So conservatives tend to be very negative towards climate change."


Why Conservative White Males Are More Likely to Be Climate Skeptics - Scientific American

I take that to mean that conservative white males are the only ones that are concerned about the economy. You know, the money thingy that keeps the anti everything freeloaders welfare cheques coming.
 

CDNBear

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the related study points to a protection response to perceived threat: "identity-protective cognition". The response has conservative white males, more so than any other group in American society, justify and defend the American economic system because it’s the system through which their identities and life expectations have been formed. Most pointedly for conservative while males, any critique of “the system” is experienced as an ideological, psychological, and economic attack. Climate change denial is an example of this identity-protective cognition response... system-justifying tendencies lead to climate change denial... conservative white males are more likely than other Americans to report climate change denial.
Ya so?

guys, guys... your 'shuck & jive' routine runs strong, runs deep! Why, I do believe it's your own personal coping protection measure... in line with the aforementioned study's protection response to perceived threat: "identity-protective cognition" :mrgreen:
And again, since you ignored the last time I asked this... Ya so?

I'm not white, I'm not a conservative, and I have an issue with something that will drastically change my life and how I live and work.

Which are valid parts of my identity.

So, can you answer my question, or not?
 

waldo

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I'm not white, I'm not a conservative, and I have an issue with something that will drastically change my life and how I live and work.

you shouldn't have taken the study finding to suggest "ALL" persons... fit, or don't fit, within the group categorizations. That, most definitely, is not the study finding.
 

CDNBear

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you shouldn't have taken the study finding to suggest "ALL" persons... fit, or don't fit, within the group categorizations. That, most definitely, is not the study finding.
Nice job at avoiding the question.

How about you answer the question if you want to be taken seriously.
 

petros

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In response to a rant against blackleaf....

Rare undersea volcanic vents show oceans' increasing acidity likely to hurt biodiversity, endanger ecosystem stability, say Stanford researchers

Some rare undersea volcanic vents that emit carbon dioxide – which makes the water around them more acidic – have given Stanford researchers a look at how marine ecosystems may be affected as global warming intensifies. Carbon dioxide is the principal greenhouse gas causing global warming, and as it accumulates in the atmosphere, it also moves into the ocean and increases its acidity.


Oceans' increasing acidity likely to hurt biodiversity, Stanford researchers say

I've asked this before with no response...."who is monitoring the 1,000,000+ geothermal vents?"
 

waldo

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Yep.

If it weren't serious, you wouldn't be avoiding it like the plague.

you don't have to accept the study findings; that's your perogative. Since you claim to be neither white or conservative, your apparent difficulty with the study is that your, as you said, "identity parts", do not fit completely within the study's major finding's full demographic assignment. If you want to take everything quite literally... you're also, I believe, not American. I did provide a link to the study's abstract... let me quote you from the abstract and bold-highlight a couple of words for you; words that should alleviate your concern over not being included within the study's categorized group finding:

We find that conservative white males are significantly more likely than are other Americans to endorse denialist views on all five items, and that these differences are even greater for those conservative white males who self-report understanding global warming very well. Furthermore, the results of our multivariate logistic regression models reveal that the conservative white male effect remains significant when controlling for the direct effects of political ideology, race, and gender as well as the effects of nine control variables. We thus conclude that the unique views of conservative white males contribute significantly to the high level of climate change denial in the United States.
 

CDNBear

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you don't have to accept the study findings; that's your perogative. Since you claim to be neither white or conservative, your apparent difficulty with the study is that your, as you said, "identity parts", do not fit completely within the study's major finding's full demographic assignment. If you want to take everything quite literally... you're also, I believe, not American. I did provide a link to the study's abstract... let me quote you from the abstract and bold-highlight a couple of words for you; words that should alleviate your concern over not being included within the study's categorized group finding:
Interesting excuse as to why you're uncomfortable with answering the question.
 

petros

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Quoting studies as an attempt to appear educated is very very sad.

The study says you're white Bear. Get over it. Being white ain't so bad.