Condoleezza Rice to visit Ottawa next week

PoisonPete2

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shouldn't she be charged with crimes against humanity for her part in the ongoing genocide in Iraq and the kidnapping of its President?
 

unclepercy

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Reverend Blair said:
It's a racial slur around here. Maybe you need some educating though. First Nations peoples are natives. You have them in the US too. You should go talk to some. Go find a reservation, walk up to the first young man you see, and call him Tonto. Oh, get somebody to film what happens next. Maybe you can offset your hospital costs by selling the video to Jackass or something.

DREAM ON. It would never happen in a million years. NEVER.
Nothing would happen at all. One look at me, and you'd understand why.

Uncle
 

unclepercy

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Martin Le Acadien said:
unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
#juan said:
If they want to talk with the Prime Minister, send the president's ventriloquist.

ROTFLMAO,

Does Hardwood ring a bell? At least the dummy would be entertainment.

Don't send the messenger, heads of state need to talk to heads of state. Seems like a slap in Canada's face to send an underling to do business. Equal to Equal.

Your are sounding a bit racist. Are you implying that a black woman is not equal in importance, nor competent enough to address the PM?

Uncle

You Sir, are the one bringing up race, I am not implying nor have I ever mentioned that due to her Race that she can not talk to the PM, but as her position in the US Govt. Race has nothing to do with it.

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it. You should know that.


Ms. Rice is only the US Sec of State and is at the level of the Foriegn Office Minister in Ottawa. To send a person of an "inferior" office to speak to the PM on matters of Importance should take place at the Ministerial Level, Heads of State speak to Heads of State. It is a matter of Protocol that should be followed. Canada is not a vassal state of the US, it is an equal, soveriegn country and should be treated as such.

Maybe this is why Bush wasn't sent - if Canada deserves the head of state - you treat his position with respect. This whole forum has done nothing but curse the day he was born. Here is but one (of many) example, well circulated:



Make up your friggin' minds. You hate him. You want him to come and treat Canada with respect, but you want to disrespect him. Can't have it both ways now.

Uncle
 

Nascar_James

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neocon-hunter said:
She should stay the hell outta Canada. She can't do nothing anyways. Just because you have a few degrees does not mean you know how to use them.

She has been voted Forbes most powerful woman two straight years and has taught at Stanford. What's the matter neocon-hunter? Do you have anything against African Americans or something?
 

Reverend Blair

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Do you have something against them, Nascar Nero? It's you and your little neo-con buddy that keep bringing up race. The rest of us just judge her by the fact that she's just another oil industry greed-hog that doesn't mind killing for money.
 

Nascar_James

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Reverend Blair said:
Do you have something against them, Nascar Nero? It's you and your little neo-con buddy that keep bringing up race. The rest of us just judge her by the fact that she's just another oil industry greed-hog that doesn't mind killing for money.

It appears Hank, Uncle and myself are the only ones defending Condeleezza Rice, Rev. Not one else has stepped up to the plate to support the outstanding job she's been doing as US Secretary of State.

If she gets nominated as Republican candidate for the 2008 Presidential Election, she will surely get my vote.
 

Ocean Breeze

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It appears Hank, Uncle and myself are the only ones defending Condeleezza Rice, Rev. Not one else has stepped up to the plate to support the outstanding job she's been doing as US Secretary of State.


why the heck does she need "defending"???? IF she is doing such a great job , is fair , honest , civilized, not threatening ( diplomatic).......(and not spending megabucks shopping while a part of the nation is under natural disaster)........that should speak for itself.
 

Reverend Blair

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She doesn't deserve defending. She is just another oil industry greed-hog that doesn't mind killing for money.


Her character and her actions are indefensible.
 

no1important

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PM vows to press Condoleezza Rice on wood, guns

Preparing to welcome the U.S. Secretary of State to Ottawa, Prime Minister Paul Martin says he'll be looking for a sign the White House is prepared to heed the terms of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

At a press conference on Parliament Hill Monday morning, Martin told reporters he has no intention of negotiating the question of softwood lumber duties with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Instead, the prime minister said he'll be pressing Rice for a signal the U.S. is prepared to find common ground with Canada.
 

Kellen

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unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
#juan said:
If they want to talk with the Prime Minister, send the president's ventriloquist.

ROTFLMAO,

Does Hardwood ring a bell? At least the dummy would be entertainment.

Don't send the messenger, heads of state need to talk to heads of state. Seems like a slap in Canada's face to send an underling to do business. Equal to Equal.

Your are sounding a bit racist. Are you implying that a black woman is not equal in importance, nor competent enough to address the PM?

Uncle

You Sir, are the one bringing up race, I am not implying nor have I ever mentioned that due to her Race that she can not talk to the PM, but as her position in the US Govt. Race has nothing to do with it.

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it. You should know that.


Ms. Rice is only the US Sec of State and is at the level of the Foriegn Office Minister in Ottawa. To send a person of an "inferior" office to speak to the PM on matters of Importance should take place at the Ministerial Level, Heads of State speak to Heads of State. It is a matter of Protocol that should be followed. Canada is not a vassal state of the US, it is an equal, soveriegn country and should be treated as such.

Maybe this is why Bush wasn't sent - if Canada deserves the head of state - you treat his position with respect. This whole forum has done nothing but curse the day he was born. Here is but one (of many) example, well circulated:



Make up your friggin' minds. You hate him. You want him to come and treat Canada with respect, but you want to disrespect him. Can't have it both ways now.

Uncle

Interesting, so black politicians shouldn't be critisized as harshly as white politicians are? Looks to me like someones prejudices are showing. I also like the part where you say

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it.

So, your admitting that race has absolutely nothing to do with this and that it was completely inapropriate (not to mention racist) to even bring it up?

Oh and BTW, this forum is not the government of Canada, and even if they were disrespectful towards him the President should still be sent to talk to the Prime Minister, not some underling. Try imagining Canada sending the Deputy Prime Minister to see Mr.Bush and then you'll know what I mean. Your argument about respect is also BS, it's not as if Washington respects Martin much.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Your argument about respect is also BS, it's not as if Washington respects Martin much.


indeed. But then who in CA "respects" the gang in Washington all that much?? either. Suspect that it is more a mutual "tolerance" type of relationship now. (which is really too bad)

"respect" ........mutual or otherwise is another casualty of the bush cabal.
 

unclepercy

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Kellen said:
unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
#juan said:
If they want to talk with the Prime Minister, send the president's ventriloquist.

ROTFLMAO,

Does Hardwood ring a bell? At least the dummy would be entertainment.

Don't send the messenger, heads of state need to talk to heads of state. Seems like a slap in Canada's face to send an underling to do business. Equal to Equal.

Your are sounding a bit racist. Are you implying that a black woman is not equal in importance, nor competent enough to address the PM?

Uncle

You Sir, are the one bringing up race, I am not implying nor have I ever mentioned that due to her Race that she can not talk to the PM, but as her position in the US Govt. Race has nothing to do with it.

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it. You should know that.


Ms. Rice is only the US Sec of State and is at the level of the Foriegn Office Minister in Ottawa. To send a person of an "inferior" office to speak to the PM on matters of Importance should take place at the Ministerial Level, Heads of State speak to Heads of State. It is a matter of Protocol that should be followed. Canada is not a vassal state of the US, it is an equal, soveriegn country and should be treated as such.


You are doing it again! You need to work on your comprehension skills. Under no circumstance in the US are you to EVER refer to a black person as "inferior" - in office, in appearance, in anything.
Got it? You do that here, and you will lose your job, your house,
your friends, and everything you hold dear. Unless no one heard it.
The fact that she is a black female - that's probably the very reason they are sending her. You cannot disrespect her or the diplomatic fur will fly.


Maybe this is why Bush wasn't sent - if Canada deserves the head of state - you treat his position with respect. This whole forum has done nothing but curse the day he was born. Here is but one (of many) example, well circulated:



Make up your friggin' minds. You hate him. You want him to come and treat Canada with respect, but you want to disrespect him. Can't have it both ways now.

Uncle

Interesting, so black politicians shouldn't be critisized as harshly as white politicians are? Looks to me like someones prejudices are showing. I also like the part where you say

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it.

So, your admitting that race has absolutely nothing to do with this and that it was completely inapropriate (not to mention racist) to even bring it up?

HELL NO. I just explained above why. And this is what I think of your post:



Uncle
 

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unclepercy said:
Kellen said:
unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
unclepercy said:
Martin Le Acadien said:
#juan said:
If they want to talk with the Prime Minister, send the president's ventriloquist.

ROTFLMAO,

Does Hardwood ring a bell? At least the dummy would be entertainment.

Don't send the messenger, heads of state need to talk to heads of state. Seems like a slap in Canada's face to send an underling to do business. Equal to Equal.

Your are sounding a bit racist. Are you implying that a black woman is not equal in importance, nor competent enough to address the PM?

Uncle

You Sir, are the one bringing up race, I am not implying nor have I ever mentioned that due to her Race that she can not talk to the PM, but as her position in the US Govt. Race has nothing to do with it.

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it. You should know that.


Ms. Rice is only the US Sec of State and is at the level of the Foriegn Office Minister in Ottawa. To send a person of an "inferior" office to speak to the PM on matters of Importance should take place at the Ministerial Level, Heads of State speak to Heads of State. It is a matter of Protocol that should be followed. Canada is not a vassal state of the US, it is an equal, soveriegn country and should be treated as such.


You are doing it again! You need to work on your comprehension skills. Under no circumstance in the US are you to EVER refer to a black person as "inferior" - in office, in appearance, in anything.
Got it? You do that here, and you will lose your job, your house,
your friends, and everything you hold dear. Unless no one heard it.
The fact that she is a black female - that's probably the very reason they are sending her. You cannot disrespect her or the diplomatic fur will fly.


Maybe this is why Bush wasn't sent - if Canada deserves the head of state - you treat his position with respect. This whole forum has done nothing but curse the day he was born. Here is but one (of many) example, well circulated:



Make up your friggin' minds. You hate him. You want him to come and treat Canada with respect, but you want to disrespect him. Can't have it both ways now.

Uncle

Interesting, so black politicians shouldn't be critisized as harshly as white politicians are? Looks to me like someones prejudices are showing. I also like the part where you say

She is what she is. When you disrespect any black person in America, you are automatically asking for the race card to be played. Don't do it, and you won't be called on it.

So, your admitting that race has absolutely nothing to do with this and that it was completely inapropriate (not to mention racist) to even bring it up?

HELL NO. I just explained above why. And this is what I think of your post:



Uncle


Right, because your post certainly had a lot of great substance in it. :roll:
 

Nascar_James

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Condoleezza Rice, the distinguished US Secretary of State has visited Canada today. It appears Martin was after Rice on the NAFTA ruling with the softwood lumber issue.

Rice tries to soothe Canadian fears on softwood

Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:05 PM ET

By Randall Palmer and Sue Pleming

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin kept up his attack on U.S. trade policy on Monday as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice began her first official visit to Canada and tried to play down a long-standing lumber dispute.

"Friends live up to their agreements," Martin said bluntly in calling on the United States to respect a North American Free Trade Agreement ruling.

Canada says the NAFTA ruling means Washington should return billions of dollars in duties on Canadian softwood lumber. The United States says the ruling was much more limited.

But Rice tried to soothe trade tensions between the two neighbors and told reporters en route to Ottawa that there was still time to negotiate on the lumber issue.

"I don't think the time for negotiation has passed," she said. "We have to keep this in perspective. We are very large trading partners and there will be disputes."

"We would like to see this one resolved," she said.

When Martin took over as prime minister in December 2003, he pledged to improve relations with the United States, but he has taken off the diplomatic gloves in criticizing Washington's imposition of import duties on Canadian softwood.

"Good relations with the United States does not mean that the prime minister of the country should not defend Canada," he said.

Rice has been the top U.S. diplomat since the beginning of this year and has traversed the globe several times over as she visited more than 40 countries, but this is her first visit to Canada since then. A visit in April was scrapped after Canada decided not to join the U.S. missile defense plan.

Here's a reuters link ...

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...MOL460104_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA.xml&archived=False
 

no1important

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The only dispute is America not living up yo their part of the bargain. There is nothing to negioate either. America best start to smarten up or we will sell our goods elsewhere.
 

unclepercy

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no1important said:
The only dispute is America not living up yo their part of the bargain. There is nothing to negioate either. America best start to smarten up or we will sell our goods elsewhere.

Hi, ya'll! How you doing?



Uncle
 

mrmom2

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Condyliesalot Rice is a neocon piece of trash nothing but a NWO mouthpiece and a liar :x She should stay in the US we don't need her bullshit around here .Hat in hand looking for help with the mess her and Bush made of Iraq.I say you broke it you fix it .Fecking liars make a huge mess and try and get the rest of the world to clean it up what a fecking joke