Clifford Robert Olsen

[Kreskin]

Clifford Olsen is once again in the news, this time for someone creating a myspace account in his name that include photos of him in prison.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=bd89925a-8cb3-49d4-87f6-7c4c59a5c092

I grew up in the area that Olsen often found his prey. When I think back to those days, how everyone was more relaxed about security, it's no wonder he found his victims so easily. I just read through the crimelibrary account of his killing spree. I was about 18-20 during that time. It's weird to think how often I may have crossed paths with him. So many of the places it talks about him being at were places I was around almost daily.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/olson/1.html

It looks to me the police work/investigation in that period was terrible, and it's hard to believe he could be accused or convicted of so many sex crimes and still walk the streets to kill those kids.

If ever there could be an exception for capital punishment, he and our pig farmer deserve it. In the very least there should be a penalty of life in prison with no eligibility for parole.

I heard on the radio today one of the parents of a murdered child saying they one month away from another parole hearing of some sort. They have to once again return to court and make victim impact statements with him present. That is an absolute disgrace to our justice system and society. As I listened to the man I thought to myself those families should simply sign a letter that says "if he is ever let go there will be hell to pay. We won't be attending any hearing, not next month or any month, but trust you'll keep him locked up for the rest of his life without the need for any assistance or further statements from us."

Anyway, I say lock him in 4x4 cell. Slip him one meal a day under the door and wait for him to rot.

And that's my rant.

 

[Outta here]

And a good rant it was.

Victimizing the victim makes no sense at all. Do they expect that after a few parole hearings, the family will have a sudden change of heart and advocate for the release of the monster that stole their loved one? They've been left to bear the trauma of knowing another human being willfully and purposefully hurt and killed someone they loved. How does one come away from such a thing unchanged? Crimes of violence spread very wide ripples of pain.

 

[talloola]

I agree Kreskin, those people should not have to attend such hearings, how they can look
at him without wanting to tear him apart, I would not know.
He did his dirty deeds right under the noses of the law, almost taunting them, and they
just didn't 'get it', how inept.
We were living in parksville at the time of his last crime, and realized that he must have
driven right through our area, and I, with four daughters, teen agers, and one younger at
the time, makes my skin crawl.
Those poor kids and their families, who suffer for the rest of their lives.

 

[Nuggler]

:angry3: IMHO Olsen insists on the parole hearings cause he CAN.

He knows he's never getting out.

But he can look at the faces of the family of his victims and relive his "time" with their sons or daughters.

He's a psychopathic sexual sadist; my vote is with Kreskin re: Olsen, Piggy, and the death penalty.

:angry3:

 

[karrie]

I've never understood the need for the 'victim impact statement'.

What happens to the unliked person, or the hermit, who ends up killed? Do their murderers get less time in prison because there's no poignant statement from a teary eyed lover or mother or child to tug at the heart strings of a judge or jury or parole board?

 

[#juan]

That was a hell of a read Rick. Our kids were teenagers during Olsen's rampage. For a while we embarrassed them by driving them to and from school. I remember all the bitching about the dollars for bodies deal and I remember thinking that if it helped give closure to some of those families it was well worth it. I still mourn the fact that we didn't have, and still don't have the death penalty, which is the only way to deal with animals like Olsen. I sometimes worry a bit that twenty five years down the road we might lose our vigilance and let the bastard out. At eighty odd years old, Olsen would probably not be much of a danger to anybody but I think it is important that he die in jail.

 

[MikeyDB]

Who's killed more people Olsen or George Bush?

One round of a murderous rampage is acceptable while anohter isn't?

Duh!

 

[#juan]

Who's killed more people Olsen or George Bush?

One round of a murderous rampage is acceptable while anohter isn't?

Duh!

Try to remember Mickey that the topic was about Clifford Olsen. Every U.S. president has killed more people than Clifford Olsen and most of the other serial killers combined.

 

[Colpy]

I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again....

We need capital punishment for mass murderers.

My big problem with capital punishment for anything is simply the huge possibility of making a mistake.......so, let's make it triple jeopardy....i.e: if you have a multiple killer, try him on each case seperately......different charge, different trial, different prosecuter, different judge, different jury.

On his third conviction.....execute him. Immediately.

There are some things that have to be simply unacceptable in society........serial killers are pure evil, they need to be removed like a cancerous tumor.

 

[dirtylinder]

I wonder...did his kid change his name? He must of, who would want to be called clifford olsen? This tore apart many families, including his own....I had a cousin who murdered 2 native girls (sisters)...all of us were affected, his sisters had to move, my Grandparents couldn't handle seeing a photo of him....the aftermath of what he did is still felt. I never attended the court case as I didn't want him to think I was there in support of him...I woulda sat on the other side of the court room! It was hardest on his younger sister, she believed that he was innocent and sat and made mean faces at the family...now that she knows he did do it she feels horrible about what she did..she was only 17 at the time of the crime...she has told me she will never forgive him and wants to someday convey her appologies to the family...he messed her up forever!
When asked why...he said to see if he could get away with it...the judge sentence him to a prison full of natives..he was murdered days after arriving to his new home...the judge gave him a death sentence...the day I heard he died I cried for everyone except him!

 

[Kreskin]

I wondered too whatever happened to his kid. He likely has a different name.

Interesting story DL.

 

[karrie]

wow... I'm speechless dirtylinder. That's such a tragic series of events for your family. I wish there were words.

 

[lone wolf]

I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again....

We need capital punishment for mass murderers.

My big problem with capital punishment for anything is simply the huge possibility of making a mistake.......so, let's make it triple jeopardy....i.e: if you have a multiple killer, try him on each case seperately......different charge, different trial, different prosecuter, different judge, different jury.

On his third conviction.....execute him. Immediately.

There are some things that have to be simply unacceptable in society........serial killers are pure evil, they need to be removed like a cancerous tumor.

You're kinder than me. In cases like Olsen or Bernardo and his pet or Pickton why waste the prison space? The only kindness they should be shown is a new rope.

 

[dirtylinder]

Victims impact statements are useless...we were robbed recently, and I was sent 6 pages of forms/info etc. did they really think that if I took the time to fill it out she'd think, oh, you're right I shouldn't steal....not likely. Plus she'd know my name, she could retaliate.
Olsen is way to sick to ever be rehabilitated, but if they'd like to release him I'd like to invite him to the Olsen victim family BBQ!

 

[shadowshiv]

:angry3: IMHO Olsen insists on the parole hearings cause he CAN.

He knows he's never getting out.

But he can look at the faces of the family of his victims and relive his "time" with their sons or daughters.

:angry3:

You hit the nail on the head, Nuggler. The only reason he applies for parole is so he can enjoy the look of pain on the families of the victims. Why this is even still allowed is beyond me. It seems like the criminals have more rights than the victims!:-(

 

[shadowshiv]

I wonder...did his kid change his name? He must of, who would want to be called clifford olsen? This tore apart many families, including his own....I had a cousin who murdered 2 native girls (sisters)...all of us were affected, his sisters had to move, my Grandparents couldn't handle seeing a photo of him....the aftermath of what he did is still felt. I never attended the court case as I didn't want him to think I was there in support of him...I woulda sat on the other side of the court room! It was hardest on his younger sister, she believed that he was innocent and sat and made mean faces at the family...now that she knows he did do it she feels horrible about what she did..she was only 17 at the time of the crime...she has told me she will never forgive him and wants to someday convey her appologies to the family...he messed her up forever!
When asked why...he said to see if he could get away with it...the judge sentence him to a prison full of natives..he was murdered days after arriving to his new home...the judge gave him a death sentence...the day I heard he died I cried for everyone except him!

Thank you for telling your story, DirtyLinder. I cannot imagine how difficult it must have been to type that out.:-(

 

[Just the Facts]

I think there should always be room for flexibility in the law to accommodate special circumstances, so I wouldn't support life with no eligibility for parole.

That doesn't mean he actually has to be granted parole. Being eligible, it can still be denied.

 

[MikeyDB]

Is there any doubt that he's guilty? If not why are we entertaining the prospect of keeping this individual alive?

Is it reasonable to expect his complete rehabilitation? Is there some overarching "special" skill attribute or rationale with respect to why the world can't get along without this person?

Execution seems perfectly reasonable to me.

 

[missed]

my story

I have spent the past few weeks researching my experience in 1980 (?Feb/March).
I lived one block away from where Olson grew up in Rmd (not at the same time) - ie: he knew the neighbourhood.
In 1980, he approached me at a bus stop on Bridgeport Rd asking for directions to the Airport Inn (Hotel in Rmd). I was 17 yrs old.
I told him how to get there (simple directions).
He stated he was 'a professional hockey player' and asked if I was going shopping.
He said if I just got in the car (white exterior with maroon leather interior) I could have the 5 fifty dollar bills he had displayed on the passenger seat.
I said you can see the Hotel from here and backed away (continued waiting for my bus - unphased).
Olson became agitated and drove off.
I remember his features quite distinctly (caucasion - dark eyes - somewhat stocky).
I was never fearful - just put off as I did not believe him (thought he was a show-off).
Some years passed when I was reading an article in the Surrey Leader stating that a young acquaintance of Olson's was also appoached using the M.O. 'I am a professional hockey player'.
It is frightening to think what could have happened that day.

 

[talloola]

I have spent the past few weeks researching my experience in 1980 (?Feb/March).
I lived one block away from where Olson grew up in Rmd (not at the same time) - ie: he knew the neighbourhood.
In 1980, he approached me at a bus stop on Bridgeport Rd asking for directions to the Airport Inn (Hotel in Rmd). I was 17 yrs old.
I told him how to get there (simple directions).
He stated he was 'a professional hockey player' and asked if I was going shopping.
He said if I just got in the car (white exterior with maroon leather interior) I could have the 5 fifty dollar bills he had displayed on the passenger seat.
I said you can see the Hotel from here and backed away (continued waiting for my bus - unphased).
Olson became agitated and drove off.
I remember his features quite distinctly (caucasion - dark eyes - somewhat stocky).
I was never fearful - just put off as I did not believe him (thought he was a show-off).
Some years passed when I was reading an article in the Surrey Leader stating that a young acquaintance of Olson's was also appoached using the M.O. 'I am a professional hockey player'.
It is frightening to think what could have happened that day.

frightening for sure, I feel frightened reading your post, you came that close,
and thankfully your instincts told you to back away, you saved yourself that day.
bravo.