"Churchianity"

[gerryh]

"Massey’s attempt to demonstrate that Jesus is merely a rewrite of Horus is tortured. Take the contention that Horus and Jesus were both of virgin birth. The most common legend about the birth of Horus is that the god Seth dismembered the body of Osiris, his older brother and husband of Isis. Isis collected the pieces of her husband’s body and sewed them back together, then took the form of a bird and fanned Osiris with her wings, reviving him enough to have sex and get herself pregnant with Horus. So it’s sex with a coma patient or necrophilia — not your classic virgin-birth story either way. As for the crucifixion and resurrection, the party involved wasn’t Horus but Osiris, as per the above. Except Osiris wasn’t crucified — Seth initially had him nailed into a coffin. And he wasn’t really resurrected, just revived long enough to be a sperm donor, after which he died again.
Then again, there really isn’t a canonical version of the Horus story. Browsing through the stelae, I find a variant in which the child Horus is stung to death by a scorpion, then restored to life by the god Thoth. So OK, are there points of similarity between Jesus and Horus? I’ll be big about it and say sure. Is one copied from the other? Get out."


The Straight Dope: Was Jesus copied from the Egyptian god Horus?


All About Horus: An Egyptian Copy of Christ? Response to Zeitgeist movie

 

[EagleSmack]

Any comments Cliffy? Maybe an admission that you're wrong, full of sh*t, intolerant, etc.?

 

[gerryh]

Any comments Cliffy? Maybe an admission that you're wrong, full of sh*t, intolerant, etc.?

and they say that Christians are moon bat crazy for believing the Bible, yet they believe BS like this. It's no different than taking Von Daniken's crap about aliens at face value.

 

[Cliffy]

Ha ha. Youse be funny. No I don't believe that Horus and Jesus were the same story. Both are just as impossible. They are metaphors, not actual fact.

 

[gerryh]

Ha ha. Youse be funny. No I don't believe that Horus and Jesus were the same story. Both are just as impossible. They are metaphors, not actual fact.

and yet, you posted that little ditty without explanation. I say BS, and you are now back pedaling. It's not like this is the first time you have made the claim that the "jesus story" was "stolen" from previous eras as an explanation as to why it isn't true.

 

[EagleSmack]

Ha ha. Youse be funny. No I don't believe that Horus and Jesus were the same story. Both are just as impossible. They are metaphors, not actual fact.

So you're just an intolerant bigot then. Gotcha.

Impossible... ok Mr. Reincarnated Cree Indian.

 

[Spade]

Churchy la Femme's explanation. (Genuflect here for a partial indulgence of 3 days)

 

[Cliffy]

and yet, you posted that little ditty without explanation. I say BS, and you are now back pedaling. It's not like this is the first time you have made the claim that the "jesus story" was "stolen" from previous eras as an explanation as to why it isn't true.

Mythra, Krishna, and many others. There is nothing new under the Sun (Son).

So you're just an intolerant bigot then. Gotcha.

Impossible... ok Mr. Reincarnated Cree Indian.

...and a Catholic bishop, and a Sinixt and who knows how many others. Or is it because we are all interconnected? I remember lives from the past but were they mine or someone else's? If you think you know the answers, then all I can say is - delusional.

 

[cj44]

Mythra, Krishna, and many others. There is nothing new under the Sun (Son).


...and a Catholic bishop, and a Sinixt and who knows how many others. Or is it because we are all interconnected? I remember lives from the past but were they mine or someone else's? If you think you know the answers, then all I can say is - delusional.

Cliffy, Why do you insist on this conglomerate spiritual blob?

 

[darkbeaver]

Horus was born to the goddess Isis after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband Osiris, except his ***** which was thrown into the Nile and eaten by a catfish,[7][8] or sometimes by a crab, and according to Plutarch's account (see Osiris) used her magic powers to resurrect Osiris and fashion a gold phallus[9] to conceive her son (older Egyptian accounts have the ***** of Osiris surviving).

Such fail...

Yes of course there are a great many stupid translations ES. Would you like a better rendition?

Ha ha. Youse be funny. No I don't believe that Horus and Jesus were the same story. Both are just as impossible. They are metaphors, not actual fact.

They mean to stone you Cliffy. First they will need to determine the ones among them without sin. Fear not buddy ignorance is the very root of Sin. Their stones will simply bounce off your righteous hide.

 

[Spade]

Nicely mocked, darkbeaver!

 

[darkbeaver]

" I am the goddess Isis, the mother of all the living. No man hath lifted my robe,and the fruit I bore was Helios."

The we have one of the earliest virgin mother stories. Helios and Christ are one and the same, the Light. Christ was always a Sun God.

 

[Cliffy]

Yes of course there are a great many stupid translations ES. Would you like a better rendition?

They mean to stone you Cliffy. First they will need to determine the ones among them without sin. Fear not buddy ignorance is the very root of Sin. Their stones will simply bounce off your righteous hide.

They already have. Nothing penatrates the truth.

 

[darkbeaver]

Still it is the mark of the enlightened to judge not, turn the other cheek, and invite them to kiss it.
Really it's the only way to stay above the vulgar mob and continue our ministry as prescribed to it's eventual perfect culmination.

The bud was particularly sweet this eve. I must prey.

 

[cj44]

Still it is the mark of the enlightened to judge not, turn the other cheek, and invite them to kiss it.
Really it's the only way to stay above the vulgar mob and continue our ministry as prescribed to it's eventual perfect culmination.

The bud was particularly sweet this eve. I must prey.

Beavs, you are a source of bewilderment and wonder.

How does one eventually break through to the mob and what is preventing them from being enlightened?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Beavs, you are a source of bewilderment and wonder.

How does one eventually break through to the mob and what is preventing them from being enlightened?

Will you accept a musical answer?

Pay close attention to the third verse.


Jim Croce - Greatest Hits - I Got A Name - YouTube

 

[cj44]

T-Bones:
"Like the North wind whistling down the sky" Is that the verse you are referring to? Hmmm....Where shall I go with this. Perhaps, I will wait for your confirmation.

 

[damngrumpy]

To the person who believes it is not nonsense to those who don't believe it is.
In my personal view people can believe any damn thing they want they can
go to church or worship moonshine on the back porch on Sunday Morning for
all I care. I don't care if its natives dancing and smoking tobacco or priests
using their little burners to spread the smell of incense around the room.
All of these things are symbolic and have meaning to those who believe what
they believe.
Now some get the social aspects of going to church and they never hear the
message they seek only to belong and that too is their right to believe what they
want. The only time I don't get along with religion is when they want to convert
me or insist through their societal place of privilege they want to impose their
beliefs on me through government legislation like some fundamentalist governments
do. In my view most people who go to church believe the teaching being handed
down. I question everything personally and I find religion is more about politics than
about anything spiritually but that is merely an opinion,

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

T-Bones:
"Like the North wind whistling down the sky" Is that the verse you are referring to? Hmmm....Where shall I go with this. Perhaps, I will wait for your confirmation.

That touches on something I just read:

"The wry smile grew. 'Was Wilson-paidhi actually this fluent, Bren-paidhi?'
'No, nand' aiji. Wilson-paidhi is not as good at mathematics.'
'He cannot count to three?'"

C.J. Cherryh, Invitations

 

[Motar]

What is the biblical church? Who wrote the bible and who created the church around it?

The history of the church is recorded in the Bible, Cliffy. Chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation mention seven churches (congregations) in existence during the time of John's (co-author of Revelation) exile. These seven churches are representative of the development of the Christian church from inception to final hour.

Ephesus represents the apostolic church (1st century). Smyrna symbolizes the persecuted church (AD 100-314). Pergamum signifies the compromising (doctrine) church (AD 314-590). Thyatira embodies the ritualistic church (AD 590-1000). Sardis personifies the dying church (AD 1517-1800). Philadelphia stands for the revived church (19th century to present). Laodicea predicts the apostate church (revelation period).