"Churchianity"

[EagleSmack]

Nonsense. The "noble savage," as I just said to Eagle, was the object of the most vicious hatred and defamation for a centuries. It didn't wear off until several decades after we were completely crushed.

If you'd like, I'll post some of the quotes from the great and the good of American history on the subject of how subhuman Indians are and how the only alternative is "extermination," which was the word they used before "genocide" was coined.

And you can add some good old warrior quotes... what did one of the Natives say about Custer's Last Stand... "It wasn't last stand... it was a buffalo hunt.".... something like that.

And the massacre of British soldiers, women, and children after they surrendered at Ft. William Henry...justified because the Natives didn't get enough scalps and loot as was part of their culture. Ahhhhh... so noble... so righteous.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Christianity is a soft target. That is all. Attacking Christianity is just an outlet for the weak and miserable.

That's part of it too. There will always be the weak and miserable to attack whatever their personal bents choose to fear today. And they'll be most obtrusive on the internet, where you can say anything you like without consequences.

Lack of consequences is a problem. It promoted viciousness in the American South, and it promotes astounding levels of asswittery among lefties, like in that thread on Dartmouth. Consistent, evenhanded enforcement is the answer.

It was the lack of consistent, evenhanded enforcement that caused much of the anti-Christian backlash. You can see that in the fact that the Christian cult suffering worst from the backlash is Catholicism. That's because they had the structure and the power to most effectively shield their criminals from the law. There were more Protestant criminals, but without the monolithic, nationwide (and worldwide) organisation to shield them, fewer of them got away with their crimes (thought plenty did, hiding behind Jesus).

 

[Spade]

The preceding discussion should have answered your question, Motar.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

"To some church members, religion is a rite or a ritual or a legalistic and lifeless form, a liturgical system marked by meaningless and wearisome verbiage. There is a lot of religious garbage in our so-called conservative and evangelical churches also. There is a ceaseless quoting of tired adjectives and a jumble of pious platitudes ... My point is that today there is a great deal of "churchianity" that is bland and bloodless, tasteless and colorless. It is devoid of warmth and feeling. There is no personal relationship with Christ that is meaningful and productive." "Churchianity" Revealed - Thru the Bible with Dr. J. Vernon McGee

What is "churchianity"? How does it differ from Christianity?

Christianity is the Quakers, and a few members of other congregations. Churchianity is the rest.

 

[Spade]

Quakers in Britain and the States, Doukhobors in Canada, and a few Buddhist monks in Southeast Asia.

 

[cj44]

Really... interesting. So you support everything in Leviticus then, and as a Christian, you follow it all to a T, right?

Gerry, I thought we decided Leviticus was never to be discussed again.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Missed my point, not surprising at all. Most "natives" do, with Bear being an exception. Check out the history BEFORE "whitey" came along.

Didn't miss your point at all, just get real tired of the old "Indians made war on each other" as a justification for the genocide.

It's basically the same as saying "Canada has gone to war in the past, therefore anyone who wants to is completely justified in making war on Canada whenever they feel like it."

 

[gerryh]

Gerry, I thought we decided Leviticus was never to be discussed again.

:roll: such a funny guy........not.:roll:


The moron made a statement, and as usual, runs away
when backed into a corner. This is his usual post and run way of doing things.

Didn't miss your point at all, just get real tired of the old "Indians made war on each other" as a justification for the genocide.

It's basically the same as saying "Canada has gone to war in the past, therefore anyone who wants to is completely justified in making war on Canada whenever they feel like it."

Not justifying squat. Just pointing out that "genocide" is nothing new for either side. Neither get's to wave the flag of superiority.

 

[cj44]

"To some church members, religion is a rite or a ritual or a legalistic and lifeless form, a liturgical system marked by meaningless and wearisome verbiage. There is a lot of religious garbage in our so-called conservative and evangelical churches also. There is a ceaseless quoting of tired adjectives and a jumble of pious platitudes ... My point is that today there is a great deal of "churchianity" that is bland and bloodless, tasteless and colorless. It is devoid of warmth and feeling. There is no personal relationship with Christ that is meaningful and productive." "Churchianity" Revealed - Thru the Bible with Dr. J. Vernon McGee

What is "churchianity"? How does it differ from Christianity?

Motar: I think "Churchianity" stems from either a desire to look moral and/or thinking Christianity is a religion. Ringing bells, lighting candles, staring out the stain glass window - all surface, no depth or real connection to the LIVING God.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Not justifying squat. Just pointing out that "genocide" is nothing new for either side. Neither get's to wave the flag of superiority.

Well, the Indians have been punished for all their misdeeds.

Wonder when you'll get yours?

 

[cj44]

:roll: such a funny guy........not.:roll:


The moron made a statement, and as usual, runs away
when backed into a corner. This is his usual post and run way of doing things.




Not justifying squat. Just pointing out that "genocide" is nothing new for either side. Neither get's to wave the flag of superiority.

Gerry, You leave me speechless which is really a stunning accomplishment.


Hold your applause people!!!

 

[Motar]

Motar: I think "Churchianity" stems from either a desire to look moral and/or thinking Christianity is a religion. Ringing bells, lighting candles, staring out the stain glass window - all surface, no depth or real connection to the LIVING God.

Agree, cj. I think there is confusion today about the biblical church - its origins and its presence and purpose in the world today.

 

[Cliffy]

Agree, cj. I think there is confusion today about the biblical church - its origins and its presence and purpose in the world today.

What is the biblical church? Who wrote the bible and who created the church around it?

You accept the bible as the word of gawd but have no idea about its origins.

 

[Spade]

What is the biblical church? Who wrote the bible and who created the church around it?

You accept the bible as the word of gawd but have no idea about its origins.

Without knowledge of similar Sumerian and Babylonian myths, fundamentalists, to misquote Jefferson (1823), who are convinced the Bible fell out G-d's mind, will be classed with those who accept "the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter"

 

[cj44]

What is the biblical church? Who wrote the bible and who created the church around it?

You accept the bible as the word of gawd but have no idea about its origins.

Cliffy, one cannot fully know God, the Bible or truth by reading books about the Bible or its origin. I return your comment back to you..."You have no idea about the Bible's origins"....

Tell me what your thoughts are on worship? If you believe in a God or Creator, do you believe such to be revered, honored and worshiped?

 

[Spade]

"God needs neither his own works nor the gifts of man"
Milton, On His Blindness"

 

[cj44]

Without knowledge of similar Sumerian and Babylonian myths, fundamentalists, to misquote Jefferson (1823), who are convinced the Bible fell out G-d's mind, will be classed with those who accept "the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter"

...and here we have UNBELIEF clinging to Sumerian and Babylonian myths.... My dear people, get to know the Living God. It can be done. First, ditch what you think you know and try the route of humility. Would it not be fantastic to find that God is?

"God needs neither his own works nor the gifts of man"
Milton, On His Blindness"

Spade: What does God desire though? He desires fellowship with his Creation...that would be us.

 

[Spade]

Better to live on this earth as its steward, protecting and preserving all which lies on and within, than to squander this gift in hope of "heaven". The better man says we must live as though this is all we are given.

 

[cj44]

Better to live on this earth as its steward, protecting and preserving all which lies on and within, than to squander this gift in hope of "heaven". The better man says we must live as though this is all we are given.

Christianity agrees with your thought. God admonishes us to be good stewards of earth and all its contents. Why not hope for heaven too. I plant trees all the time. Actually, I plant tree seeds. To me, if you plant a tree you're really just moving a tree. Still, good though.

 

[Cliffy]

Christianity agrees with your thought. God admonishes us to be good stewards of earth and all its contents. Why not hope for heaven too. I plant trees all the time. Actually, I plant tree seeds. To me, if you plant a tree you're really just moving a tree. Still, good though.

God is just a word for a concept of divinity. Whose concept are you talking about? My concept of god is different from yours but you would tell me that I should seek your concept and not accept my own. That is a concept that you don't seem to be able to process.