Look i want to get something off my chest.
I know the majority of people reading this are anti-christian, thats ok its a free world us christians know you guys exist.
The majority of us dont care, most of us live outside of town and live in our little church communities like the ones south of sudbury. We dont go up in your face posting propoganda, most of us just stay to ourselves listening to our country music and working our jobs.
We tolerate alot, we are always learning the history and learning from it cause there are always those people who hold it against us. We are trying to change with times and are happy with who we are as people, and a community.
No ones perfect, we dont like being singled out in public for our beliefs, we dont want to isolate ourselves, and i dont like being insulted for wearing a cross around my neck.
I have had catholic relatives way back that were caught up in poland protecting the jews (guess what happened to them?????), and we get especially mad when athiests attack us but ignore other religous groups.....
I hope those who hate us for who we are understand
Johnnny,
I'm agnostic. I don't hate Christians and any religious group. In fact I fully support everyone's right to choose their belief system as long as they don't try to impose it on anyone and violate the rights of others...
So I support your choice to be Catholic.
The initial pointed which started this discussion pointed out correctly that a majority of American Christians supported their Christian president's call for war.
All the justifications for that war have been proven to be lies and manipulations of the truth. Iraq's WMDs had been elimintated by weapon inspections nearly a decade before the start of the war. Iraq had no links to al Qaeda or the events of 9/11.
The Christian president of the USA manipulated 9/11 anger and fear into support for an unprovoked war which killed 30,000 Iraqi soldiers (many of whom were involuntary conscripts) 100,000 civilians deaths directly as collateral damage and about another 900,000 as a result of civil war, increased violence and crime. The scale of death and destruction pretty much eliminates the war's justification on humanitarian grounds.
War is legal only if a country is attacked (Iraq never attacked the US), an attack is about to happen (Iraq had no real offensive capability) or the war was approved by the UNSC for for specific reasons, (they never did)
Therefore the US decision to invade and occupy Iraq violated the UN Charter and international law. That makes it a war crime and probably a crime against humanity.
Lessons of Iraq war underscore importance of UN Charter - Annan
16 September 2004 – Secretary-General Kofi Annan believes that the Iraq war in 2003 demonstrated the need for the international community to address the issue of preventive action in the context of Charter principles and showed the importance of joint efforts on matters of use of force, a United Nations spokesman said today.
Responding to media questions about the Secretary-General's comments in a BBC interview, spokesman Fred Eckhard told a press briefing in New York that in his remarks the Secretary-General had reiterated his well-known position that the military action against Iraq was not in conformity with the UN Charter.
In the interview, Mr. Annan was repeatedly asked whether the war was "illegal." "Yes," he finally said, "I have indicated it is not in conformity with the UN Charter, from our point of view, and from the Charter point of view it was illegal."...
http://www.un.org/apps/news/storyAr.asp?NewsID=11953&Cr=iraq&Cr1
Johnnny, you are a Christian. In your opinion as a Christian, "How would Jesus judge this war and the people who started it?"
