China sparks aircraft carrier scare .
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If I had my way.
Right now we aren't a country we're a satellite. I'd change that in a big hurry.
I was excited? Guess again.... Is staying on topic really so hard for you - or is smokescreen how you avoid real debate?
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You imbedded it in my text but when I quote you I get this. ^
I can't answer point for point if you know what I mean.
There really isn't a debate to be honest save for you saying that aircraft carriers are not offensive weapons. All the rest is babbling.
My Kyoto thing was just a dig (and yes off topic) to the country that gave China developing nation status because they knew China wouldn't sign and could care less about Kyoto or the environment. Now here they are getting ready to build an aircraft carrier or two.
I am sure they will approve of me giving them permission. I grant them that from this seat. Build away China. Enjoy.
In lieu of that why don't you cross the border to New Hampshire and get some bottle rockets and Roman Candles and line them up along the border. :lol:
Now we'll get some feedback from Washingmachine about proliferation. When do we start the centrafuges?
1.) they weren't given the land, they were serfs upon it. Only the government owned land (recently changed)
2.) they weren't given their own land, they were given recently annexed nations like East Turkmenistan and Tibet as a way of ensuring Han cultural dominance.
So if they want their soldiers to be farmers, its because they want to farm Russian land.
If your United States chooses to be offended, that is your issue ... and possibly the world's problem. Are missiles placed in Poland defensive measures? What's good for the goose....
actually yes, anti-missile systems are the definition of a defensive system.
Seeing as you can't actually kill anybody with one its pretty hard to classify the polish interceptors as anything but.
I suppose you could fire one off an have it land on a house maybe, thats kinda like beating someone to death with a bullet proof vest though.
Seeing as you can't actually kill anybody with one its pretty hard to classify the polish interceptors as anything but.
I suppose you could fire one off an have it land on a house maybe, thats kinda like beating someone to death with a bullet proof vest though.
...and an aircraft carrier off your coast capable of scrambling interceptor aircraft from much closer to the threat is the definition of a defensive system.
Well like I said...I am not threatened by the presence of one, two, three, four etc. Chinese carriers. They all can be "gotten" too and sunk if need be. Just like the Soviets would have gotten to ours. Just like we would have gotten to the Soviet capitol ships.
BUT...an aircraft carrier brings air power where land based aircraft cannot go. What good would a carrier be going up and down the coast of China when the coast can be EASILY covered by airbases. They are weapons of offense. Simple.
Apparently so can yours as that Chinese sub who just "popped up" in the middle of an American flotilla proved a while back. Why should you be the only guys out there with offensive capable toys? Have you proven your trustworthiness?
No question. You see...no ship is unsinkable, no weapons platform is unstoppable.
I never said we should be the only ones with that. As you see in a few of my posts...it's all good. Build away. The Russians have a nice carrier...the sun still came up when it was commisioned.
Trustworthiness? No never...we want to conquer the world.
Submarines are the true rulers of the sea. If you rule beneath the waves you control what floats above it in my opinion. I would imagine that tonnage sunk by the US Subs in WWII far outweigh what the USN carrier based planes sunk.
The Chinese already purchased a Russian carrier several years ago when the Russian Navy was almost bankrupt. The articles at the time stated it would be refurbished for coastal defense purposes. Think about how many US or British carriers are in home waters (except to come and go on assignments) for coastal defense purposes. This doesn't pass the smell test to me. But China is among some strong emerging Asian economies.
:lol: Incredible.... No matter what, it's always about you. I think Germany's still kicked your asses.
In my personal experience on a carrier for a few years coastal defense was not a mission. We we would be off the coast of the US it iwas only to train for overseas deployments. We barely had any munitions. Right before we deploy overseas we load up with everything. But that was a long time ago.
Laughing myself at this post.
Of course Germany kicked our arse...so did Japan. Canada saved the world during WWII! Single handedly I may add.
Again ... out of context. German subs sent a lot more tonnage to the bottom than yours. Seriously Eag.... Can you read? I know you can sure twist the hell out of context in vain attempts to look intelligent at someone else's expense.