China is Building Carbon Capturing Plants to Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions

[MHz]

Be glad you're in a warm comfortable climate with only a few smelly posters.

It always has to be about you doesn't it?

 

[Mowich]

.....as an aside, my maple tree that sprung up in my back yard after a pine tree was cut down drops its' seeds and one landed in an empty planter and started to grow. I'm going to take it into the wilds with me and release it back into nature. I'm thinking I might do this a fair amount of times...Plant my own forest. Stickin' to da' man where ever I can. lol

I'd check with whoever the forest is managed by, Twila. Here in BC most of the land if not in private hands is managed by Forestry and they do not look kindly upon anyone who tries to fiddle with their forests.

A better idea might be to take it to your local farmer's market and see if anyone would like to plant it in their yard?

I applaud your efforts to reforest, Twila. There are organizations that rely on volunteers to replant trees, maybe you could check some of them out?

This is why I NEED a time machine. I want to go back and smell the world before our kind of pollution came along.

Pollution comes in many forms. Back in the Dark Ages, it was the human and animal fecal matter that decorated the lanes - and that my dear would have made for a very stinky atmosphere at ground level where all the inhabitants were forced to live and walk. Pick your time carefully as there were many eras where the air was anything but clean and pure.

 

[petros]

I'd check with whoever the forest is managed by, Twila. Here in BC most of the land if not in private hands is managed by Forestry and they do not look kindly upon anyone who tries to fiddle with their forests.

You are correct Mowich, urban decorative species can devastate a forest ecosystem.

Pollution comes in many forms. Back in the Dark Ages, it was the human and animal fecal matter that decorated the lanes - and that my dear would have made for a very stinky atmosphere at ground level where all the inhabitants were forced to live and walk. Pick your time carefully as there were many eras where the air was anything but clean and pure.

Same with the countryside. Far more small farms with livestock.

We are lucky in North America. We are extremely clean.

It's pretty gross in 3rd world countries.

 

[TenPenny]

Carbon capture and storage plant hits target of capturing 800,000 tonnes of CO2 in one year | Regina Leader-Post

That's a nice newspaper report.


I'll stick with the knowledge from the engineers involved in designing and building it.

 

[Danbones]

I'd check with whoever the forest is managed by, Twila. Here in BC most of the land if not in private hands is managed by Forestry and they do not look kindly upon anyone who tries to fiddle with their forests.

A better idea might be to take it to your local farmer's market and see if anyone would like to plant it in their yard?

I applaud your efforts to reforest, Twila. There are organizations that rely on volunteers to replant trees, maybe you could check some of them out?

Pollution comes in many forms. Back in the Dark Ages, it was the human and animal fecal matter that decorated the lanes - and that my dear would have made for a very stinky atmosphere at ground level where all the inhabitants were forced to live and walk. Pick your time carefully as there were many eras where the air was anything but clean and pure.

Cities were insignificant small news compared to the great open spaces back then (deville..get it?), and I say plant your tree{s} wherever you want - if they complain, tell them its a pot plant

Years ago the tourists in newfoundland complained that the place was awesome but it smelled like a dead fish outhouse.
The newfies, living there were, as humans get to be, used to it, and didn't even notice the smell at all.

So biased judgments like the kind Petros and you have just made are extremely demeaning and hypocritical to say the least from your privileged stand point of living in our 1st world countries.
Which are about to become third world thanks to globalism...enjoy.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Do you have a source for this? I'd like to use it in future arguments.

To support what point? No sarcasm or sniping, I'm just interested.

As I've said before, to any sane mind the "energy future" of the world is a mix of fossil, "green," technologies currently in the engineering stage (e.g., fusion), technologies currently in the theoretical stage (e.g., ZPE), and technologies employing principles we haven't even dreamed of yet.

 

[Danbones]

You think sane is running the joint?
lol
now that's funny right there


Opening remarks offered by FCCC’s Environment Program Executive Director Maurice Strong who organized the first U.N. Earth Climate Summit (1992) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil expressed an underlying priority very candidly:

“We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse. Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about?”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryb...m-an-important-history-lesson-2/#30dc167d29be

that's the future

 

[taxslave]

And it doesn't really work.

Neither does the carbon tax. Except as a cash grab.

I found this funny.

It seems that you are not located in Beijing, and that the closest city from your location is Regina Saskatchewan (distance 15242KM).
Do you want to see the Regina, Saskatchewan Air Quality Index instead?

I sure do/did. It's 7.

What is it in Metro Van?

It's 30. With Regina at 7 do we need a carbon tax?

Money for third world countries that can't print their own.

 

[petros]

That's a nice newspaper report.


I'll stick with the knowledge from the engineers involved in designing and building it.

The SNC Lavlin ones that were sued and fixed it?

 

[TenPenny]

The SNC Lavlin ones that were sued and fixed it?

Nope.

 

[petros]

We understand complex processes and installations, including those associated with power plants, chemical plants and refineries. Our track record includes working with SaskPower to engineer and construct one of the world's first and largest integrated CCUS demonstration projects at the Boundary Dam Power Station in Canada.

Carbon Capture Utilization & Sequestration | SNC-Lavalin

 

[Vbeacher]

To support what point? No sarcasm or sniping, I'm just interested.
.

I am not a climate scientist. I am, however, reasonably competent in Math. While I don't question that the world is warming I most certainly question the proposed solution, which is for us to spend literally hundreds of billions of dollars in a variety of carbon tax/carbon trading schemes in hopes of lowering our already tiny contribution to world CO2 emissions. Spending that kind of money on eliminating perhaps 30% of our 1.7% contribution while other nations like China and India grow their emissions by, basically, the entirety of our current emissions every year, is like using a thimble to try to bale out your bathtub while the faucet is on full.

 

[Danbones]

You can't do much with a chart, and they are math (pro tip: down is less than)

If that's "certain temperature rising", your grip on english is suspect too

..and history is also probably not your strong point either, LOL

What is the difference between Mean and Average?
http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/database/qq.09.00/julie1.html

 

[EagleSmack]

I am not a climate scientist. I am, however, reasonably competent in Math. While I don't question that the world is warming I most certainly question the proposed solution, which is for us to spend literally hundreds of billions of dollars in a variety of carbon tax/carbon trading schemes in hopes of lowering our already tiny contribution to world CO2 emissions. Spending that kind of money on eliminating perhaps 30% of our 1.7% contribution while other nations like China and India grow their emissions by, basically, the entirety of our current emissions every year, is like using a thimble to try to bale out your bathtub while the faucet is on full.

It is not really about controlling climate or saving the world... it's about wealth distribution. That is all that it is about. They are well aware that China and India will ignore them so that is why they get a pass.

 

[MHz]

I am not a climate scientist. I am, however, reasonably competent in Math. While I don't question that the world is warming I most certainly question the proposed solution, which is for us to spend literally hundreds of billions of dollars in a variety of carbon tax/carbon trading schemes in hopes of lowering our already tiny contribution to world CO2 emissions. Spending that kind of money on eliminating perhaps 30% of our 1.7% contribution while other nations like China and India grow their emissions by, basically, the entirety of our current emissions every year, is like using a thimble to try to bale out your bathtub while the faucet is on full.

Check out Adapt2030 on youtube for climate change vid. About 1 year ago he did one on the carbon cap thingy. If we shut everything down for the rest of the century it would reduce CO2 by something like 0.001%. The Oceanic has 40,000 miles of undersea rifts that expand at varying rates. Expansion of any amount dumps a certain amount of heat into the water. The Siberian traps was that on land and in a million years it raised earth's temp about 7degC. That is the cause of the Pacific warm blob and it is a climate changer.

 

[petros]

Pacific warm blob and it is a climate changer.

The blob is gone.

https://alaskapacificblob.wordpress.com/2017/03/13/the-blob-in-hibernation/

 

[MHz]

Gone but where did it come from and does -3 mean it is back to 'normal' (before the blob) or is the spreading just slowing down?? There are still red areas on a global scale and the cause would be the very same. An increase in the rate the rifts are spreading. in locations are heating up.
For the Pacific Rift perhaps the currents in that 2 miles of water run a bit faster at certain times of the year.

 

[petros]

Gone but where did it come from and does -3 mean it is back to 'normal' (before the blob) or is the spreading just slowing down?? There are still red areas on a global scale and the cause would be the very same. An increase in the rate the rifts are spreading. in locations are heating up.
For the Pacific Rift perhaps the currents in that 2 miles of water run a bit faster at certain times of the year.

Ozone.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Did you give your forum password to flossy? If not, you have chosen his kool aid brand.

So, despite evidence to the contrary you don't believe the Chinese are building carbon capture plants?

Here's a small sample of how many coal plants there are in the world today.

The EU has 468 plants building 27 more for a total of 495

Turkey has 56 plants building 93 more total 149

South Africa has 79 building 24 more total 103

India has 589 building 446 more total 1036

Philippines has 19 building 60 more total 79

South Korea has 58 building 26 more total 84

Japan has 90 building 45 more total 135

AND

CHINA has 2363 building 1171 total 3534

But here come our CANADIAN politicians that are going to shut down our 15 remaining plants and save the planet !!

This article goes well with your post. Times change - the world is changing - get used to it.
The Great Horse-Manure Crisis of 1894



https://fee.org/articles/the-great-horse-manure-crisis-of-1894/

 

[Walter]

The Great Horse-Manure Crisis of 1894

Solved by capitalism and free enterprise.