China Getting Ready to Buy Canada

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There is going to come a point, soon, when Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government will discover that Canadians have had just about enough of being told that what they need is “more, more, more” to do with China, as John McCallum, our ambassador to Beijing, likes to put it.

We’ve been hearing a great deal of this sort of thing lately as the processions of lobbyists, mandarins and yesteryear Liberal grandees slowly circle around the altar of a free-trade agreement with Xi Jinping’s police state. The problem is, we’ve heard the same hosannas in several variations over the past 30 years or so. And the consequences always seem to leave us with less, less and less.

What’s changed is that China has reverted to excesses of despotism that replicate the repressive superstructure that was on its way out in the days before the Tiananmen Massacre of 1989. Beijing’s swaggering hybrid of robber-baron capitalism and Leninist discipline is not so easily disguised by the tailored suits and refined manner of its diplomats.

Take China’s new ambassador to Canada, Lu Shaye, for instance. Lu arrived in February straight from his post as director general of the policy research bureau in the foreign affairs department of the Chinese Communist Party’s Central Committee. He has made it plain, in a series of interviews, that he wants a Canada-China free-trade agreement, on China’s terms, and he intends to brook no backchat from Canadians about human rights or democracy.

He has also made it clear that Beijing will require that its state-owned enterprises—the Chinese Communist Party’s overseas acquisitions arms—should be guaranteed full rights to assemble and possess any and all Canadian resources and corporate entities as Beijing may choose, and that any interference will be considered an impermissible restraint of trade.

As for what Canadians should look forward to, the speculative best-case scenario configured by the always bullish and buoyant Canada-China Business Council (a sort of fireside lounge for well-heeled Liberal party old-timers) pegs a boost in Canadian exports to China by $7.7 billion, and an added 25,000 jobs, by 2030. Well, wouldn’t that be nice. That would mark up our exports to China by 50 per cent to $21 billion, and so long as we’re not buying sweatshop products from China at a faster rate in 2030 than we already are, we might be induced to imagine our trade deficit with China coming down from current levels—already the highest trade deficit with any country Canada trades with—to something like $26 billion annually.

Less often observed by the China trade enthusiasts is the sum of roughly $20 billion that Canada and British Columbia have sunk into West Coast road, rail and port infrastructure over the past 25 years or so, all in a fever about the prospects of booming two-way trade with China. The investment has eased China’s access to American markets enormously. More recently, the costs of China’s 2014 hacking of the National Research Council’s mainframe computers has been estimated to run in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

As odd as it seems now, it wasn’t until four years ago that ........


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China is no friend to Canada

He has also made it clear that Beijing will require that its state-owned enterprises—the Chinese Communist Party’s overseas acquisitions arms—should be guaranteed full rights to assemble and possess any and all Canadian resources and corporate entities as Beijing may choose, and that any interference will be considered an impermissible restraint of trade.


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I doubt that is going to happen or if it is even possible as Canada has already given that right to the Americans.
 

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I always thought the Briars was a restaurant in NYC.....

Chinese buyer takes over The Briars after sale of iconic resort

The iconic Briars Resort in Jackson’s Point will have a new owner by the end of the month after almost 200 years under the Sibbald family stewardship.

“Our family is delighted that we found a purchaser that ticked all the right boxes on value, interest and a passion for continuing The Briars legacy to the land, our staff, The Briars Golf Club and the people in the Lake Simcoe area,” Briars vice-president Hugh Sibbald said, adding the family’s excitement about the possibility for renewed investment at one of Canada’s oldest and largest heritage resorts employing close to 100 people.

The year-long global search that fielded interest from more than 40 potential investors and subsequent sale to Chinese businessman R. Lu was handled by Colliers International Hotels and involves roughly 147 acres of property located between Hedge, Dalton and Black River roads, including the 100-unit historic inn, lodges and cottages, private 18-hole golf course and former Red Barn property.

Sibbald said it is “business as usual” at the Briars moving forward, with the transition of ownership scheduled for the end of April and third-generation hotelier, Tom Tittel, assuming the role of general manager of the newly formed Briars Management Limited.

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Anyone ever wonder why the people that are always so concerned about foreign ownership of Canadian businesses never buy any of these businesses themselves? Kind of lie the ones that complain about raw log exports but have zero intention of running a sawmill.
 

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Anyone ever wonder why the people that are always so concerned about foreign ownership of Canadian businesses never buy any of these businesses themselves? Kind of lie the ones that complain about raw log exports but have zero intention of running a sawmill.

The problem in Canada is that Canadian entrepreneurs start a business and once they have made a go of it and have something to offer the public, the firm is bought up by a larger (frequently foreign) company. Economists in Canada even have a name for such businesses, they are called "sapling companies" because although they grow well to begin with they never get a chance to mature. Also there is an attitude among the founders of such companies that recognizes success as being bought out. That way they recoup their immediate investment and also make a handsome profit, sometimes so handsome that they can retire at a relatively young age.
 

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As Canadians digest a stream of statements and punditry around the upcoming NAFTA negotiations, another discourse — possibly more consequential for our future — is being planned in comparative silence.

The second China-Canada Foreign Ministers Dialogue was held in Beijing last week, Canada’s Chrystia Freeland sitting down with her counterpart Wang Yi to “explore ways to further consolidate Canada-China ties,” as Xinhua news agency put it. Upcoming Canada-China trade talks would have topped the agenda.

But despite anxiety across Canada over China’s demands in any new deal, and what is really at stake, we know little about what was even discussed. Freeland flew home with no post-meeting press conference held, no communiqué issued.

Given the shocking spectacle that crowned last year’s edition of this dialogue – remember Wang’s think-skinned, arrogant berating of a Canadian journalist who asked about China’s human rights record? – many will suspect the secrecy is Beijing’s precondition to any further talks.

When John McCallum was a federal cabinet minister, the now-ambassador in Beijing was a champion of expanding connections between Canada and China, and doing it on Chinese terms. McCallum, who accompanied Freeland last week, buys in to Beijing’s “friend of China” platitude. He accepts the Chinese foreign ministry line that China is the future, and sustaining Canada’s economic growth means Ottawa should acquiesce to Beijing’s “distinctive” domestic governance and strategic aspirations abroad.

As Justin Trudeau himself said in 2012, “We deceive ourselves by thinking that trade with Asia can be squeezed into the 20th-century mould. China, for one, sets its own rules and will continue to do so because it can. China has a game plan. There is nothing inherently sinister about that.”

McCallum the minister would have agreed, even if turning away from human rights abuse in China is tacit consent of arbitrary imprisonment, torture, suffering and death.


But McCallum the ambassador is subordinate to his former junior cabinet colleague Freeland, who has a more textured and sophisticated grasp of Communist regimes, and how to realize Canada’s overall interests in relations with them. Her priorities for relations with China wouldn’t sit well with McCallum, and there will be tensions between them that Beijing will try to exploit to further its own goals with Canada.

If the federal government was reticent to reveal what was said last week, the Chinese press was more forthcoming. The China Daily reported that Wang said “China and Canada should maintain high-level exchanges and exchanges at other various levels, promote the construction of a China-Canada free trade zone and expand anti-corruption and law enforcement cooperation.” Canada has a problem with this last point, which implies extraditing Chinese nationals from Canada, despite our concerns over China’s lack of due process of law and extensive use of the death penalty.

Apparently driven by the Prime Minister’s Office, Canada continues to move to create what Wang described as “a new golden time” of bilateral relations. Seasoned China-watchers wonder if the PMO told Freeland to avoid engaging her Chinese interlocutors on issues of concern to the Canadian public, such as the disappearance of Liu Xia, the widow of the Nobel laureate Liu Xiaobo; or the ongoing (17 months and counting) imprisonment of B.C. wine exporter John Chang over what China calls a “customs valuation dispute” but which may really be about refusing demands for payoffs. Canadians also deplore China’s violent persecution of ethnic minorities, people of faith and the lawyers who seek to defend them under Chinese law.

Opinion polls, along with Ottawa’s own consultations with Canadians, detect public alarm over Chinese trade practices, forced transfer of intellectual property and Beijing’s growing influence in Canada. There is also deep concern about such precedents as Chinese enterprises owning Canada’s natural resource enterprises, and Beijing’s demand to use imported Chinese labour on Chinese-directed projects within Canada.

Of course, despite any public apprehension, the PMO is under pressure from Canada’s China-related major corporations to press ahead with free trade anyway

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What to say ?
We deal with the Chinese at our own peril.. and our own loss.

Money, jobs, sovereignty, property, speech, and morals.
 

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...and yet they,and the russians (the brics) seem to play a higher game of national ball deal wise then the Brit/Us axis does.

The Chinese and Russians aren't doing Iraqs, Libyas, Afghanistans and Syrias though, which seem to be a worse fate.

The best way to lead is by setting a good example, and keeping communication open, Canada, if we work our own issues out, could do that.
 

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...and yet they,and the russians (the brics) seem to play a higher game of national ball deal wise then the Brit/Us axis does.

The Chinese and Russians aren't doing Iraqs, Libyas, Afghanistans and Syrias though, which seem to be a worse fate.

The best way to lead is by setting a good example, and keeping communication open, Canada, if we work our own issues out, could do that.

That's because the Chinese don't give one iota about human rights.
The fact they won't speak about it, or include it in any deal, proves it.
They delayed and twisted long enough around the subject, and are now strong enough
not to care about it. They never have, they never will.

The reason they don't do Iraqs etc. is because they don't have to. They are perfectly happy to deal with
installed warlords and dictators, and it's all only about the money. If a dictator wants to trade his minerals
for Chinese guns to kill his own people, that's fine with them. Could care less.
If a dictator gets deposed, it's business as usual with the next guy.
The Chinese have been quietly buying everything they can in Africa, moving their people in,
stuff and money out. The West has said nothing, being weak for the past 40 years hasn't helped.
They aren't worried about developing the local people, or morality, or worker's rights,
or anything like that.

Only stupid White people try to link trade and 'human rights'.
The Chinese already have no respect for anyone or anything in Africa.
Soon enough, we will figure out; they have no respect for us, either.
 

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China’s ambassador to Canada, Lu Shaye, told the Globe and Mail his government wants to avoid discussions of human rights issues, fearing it could become a “bargaining chip” in negotiations.
Good luck with that. That's what they want with the NAFTA re-negotiations. But then again, Trudeau has demonstrated how willing he is to suck Chinese dick.

Additionally, China would see any attempt to block takeovers of Canadian companies on national security grounds as protectionism, Lu said.
No, it's called national security you dumb f*ck. How many state owned companies in China have been sold to foreign interests? I'm betting zero.
Harper was certainly correct about one thing. Foreign national corporations should NOT be permitted to purchase Canadian businesses of any kind. Hell they shouldn't even be allowed to operate on Canadian soil at all.
 

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You oppose free trade?

Trudeau and his staff are not very intelligent and should not be trusted to make a trade agreement with Jamaica.

Between Trudeau and Trump, double the mess.

I still choose Trudeau over Trump though. At least he's not stoking the flames of nationalism.

I do agree though that state-owned companies should operate domestically only.
 

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You oppose free trade?



Between Trudeau and Trump, double the mess.

I still choose Trudeau over Trump though. At least he's not stoking the flames of nationalism.
Nah, Trudeau's just stoking the flames of red fascism. But that's okay because it's working so well in Europe. worked great in Russia too.
Isn't it funny that the country that worked so hard to distance itself from nazi fascism is basically the leader of the red fascist EU?
 

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What if U.S. President Donald Trump’s hard right-wing, ex-Chief Strategist Steve Bannon is right about China waging total economic war on the west – just as Canada tries to do a deal with a dictatorship?

And why did Bannon contact a left-wing American publication to make provocative statements about China just days before he left the White House?

Those are important questions Canadians should be asking as Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau attempts to quietly reach a bilateral free trade agreement with the world’s second biggest economy – run by an authoritarian Communist military government.

It’s an idea most Canadians strongly oppose – 88% per cent were “uncomfortable” with opening up Canada to Chinese state-owned corporations according to an April 2017 Nanos poll.

While most media commentary on Bannon’s apparent firing focused on his comments that there is “no military solution” with North Korea, contradicting Trump – Bannon’s key point has been ignored – that the left and right need to work together.

“To me, the economic war with China is everything. And we have to be maniacally focused on that,” Bannon told The American Prospect magazine.

Meanwhile, Canada simply blindly drools at the “great untapped potential and many existing challenges in doing business with China” as a Global Affairs Canada spokesperson said last week.

China’s anti-democratic approach was confirmed last week when three young Hong Kong democracy activists were jailed for six months.

And Nobel Peace Prize winning democracy dissident Liu Xiaobo died of cancer in jail last month, serving an 11-year sentence for “subversion”.

But Justin Trudeau doesn’t seem worried about China – he previously marveled at their authoritarian government.

“There is a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime,” Trudeau said in 2013.

Those kind of comments mean both Canada’s left and right should be ringing alarm bells about what Liberals might do in a China free trade deal.

And it should be very disconcerting to all Canadians that when it comes to dealing with China’s dictatorship and its intent on economic world hegemony, Donald’s Trump ex-right-wing strategist has a more supportable view than that of Canada’s prime minister.


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Maybe this was just a test to see if it bothered anyone........





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