Chavez says U.S. occupying Haiti in name of aid
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Haiti could become the 51st state, not imposable the way things look.
Mother nature gave Hati a bad hand.......:--
We already have land like Haiti, it is called California, Earthquakes, Floods, Fire Storms in Biblical styles. Ever wonder why people chose to live in places like these.
As I have mentioned before, I would be in favor of relocating all those who want to leave to anywhere in the world that would have them including the U.S. if that is their choice.
Californians on the other hand have a choice and are just idiots.
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-50855-10.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-50855-7.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-50855-3.html
Haiti: Shades of FDR and the Jews
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by Jacob G. Hornberger
President Obama and other U.S. officials, who purport to be good and caring people through their delivery of U.S. taxpayer money to Haiti, have a message to the Haitian people. It’s the same message that President Franklin D. Roosevelt had toward Jews trying to escape Nazi Germany. The message is simple: No matter who much you are suffering, no matter how close to death you might be, don’t even think for a moment of escaping your conditions by coming to the United States.
Every day, a U.S. Air Force cargo plane spends 5 hours flying over Haiti broadcasting a recorded message, no doubt made at the urging of Washington officials, from Raymond Joseph, Haiti’s ambassador in Washington, stating: “Listen, don’t rush on boats to leave the country. If you do this, we’ll all have even worse problems.
Because, I’ll be honest with you: If you think you will reach the U.S. and all the doors will be wide open to you, that’s not at all the case. And they will intercept you right on the water and send you back home where you came from.”
The sentiment is echoed by State Department spokesman Noel Clay, who, ostensibly expressly a concern for the safety of Haitians, stated, “We urge Haitians in Haiti not to put their lives at additional risk by embarking on a dangerous sea journey.”
Lest Haitians fail to get the message, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, said, “This is a very dangerous crossing. Lives are lost every time people try to make this crossing. Please do not have us divert our necessary rescue and relief efforts that are going into Haiti by trying to leave at this point.”
To underscore the official U.S. sentiment, U.S. Coast Guard Commander Chris O’Neil declared, “There is no new incentive for anyone to try to enter the United States illegally by sea. The goal is to interdict them at sea and repatriate them.”
Let’s be blunt. There are two reasons why Haitians will not be permitted to escape their horrific conditions through emigration to the United States: They’re black and they’re destitute. If white Anglo-Saxon Britons were suffering the same horrific conditions that Haitians are suffering, there is no question but that U.S. officials would be welcoming them with open arms.
What I don’t understand is why Obama won’t order his subordinates to unbolt Emma Lazarus’s poem off the Statute of Liberty and toss it into the Hudson Bay. You know, the poem that talks about how the doors to America are open to those types of people who can be described as the “wretched refuse of your teeming shores.” You know, the poem that states:
Well, what better way to describe the Haitian people than that? But it’s precisely because they are the tired, the poor, the huddled masses, the homeless, the tempest-tost that U.S. officials, who are so compassionately delivering U.S. taxpayer money to Haiti, have taken the “bolt the door” attitude toward them.
What hypocrites! What hypocrisy!
Let’s not forget that President Roosevelt, who is portrayed in U.S. public-school textbooks as a great humanitarian and who is one of Obama’s icons, had the same attitude toward Jews that U.S. officials have toward Haitians. When Hitler offered to let German Jews emigrate in the 1930s, FDR bolted the door shut and refused to permit them to enter the United States.
The reason for Roosevelt’s attitude? Let’s be blunt. They were Jews. If English Protestants were trying to escape a Nazi occupation of their country, who can doubt that Roosevelt would have opened the doors in welcome to them?
The plans to interdict and repatriate Haitians trying to save their lives also brings to mind the infamous Voyage of the Damned, when Roosevelt and his people refused to permit German Jews from disembarking from a German vessel at Miami Harbor with full knowledge that that meant that they would have to return to Germany and Hitler’s clutches.
(As an aside, isn’t it ironic that those American Jews today who so eagerly pounce on critics of the Israeli government as being anti-Semitic hardly even issue a peep of condemnation of FDR’s important contribution to the Holocaust, no doubt because they don’t consider it politic to do so.)
Our American ancestors had it right. They declared: If you are suffering tyranny or disaster in your country, our government will not come to save or help you. Private Americans, who are free to keep everything they earn, might send you assistance or even come to your assistance. If you are able and willing to escape your country, you are free to come to America and you will not be repatriated.
Today’s America declares: If you are suffering tyranny or disaster, our government will show you how caring and compassion it is with its bombs, missiles, bullets, embargoes, sanctions, and military and financial aid, provided with the money that the IRS forcibly extracts from the American people. But don’t even think about polluting our shores with your stinking bodies because our government’s forces will immediately take you into custody and repatriate you to the tyranny and destitution from which you came
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by Jacob G. Hornberger
President Obama and other U.S. officials, who purport to be good and caring people through their delivery of U.S. taxpayer money to Haiti, have a message to the Haitian people. It’s the same message that President Franklin D. Roosevelt had toward Jews trying to escape Nazi Germany. The message is simple: No matter who much you are suffering, no matter how close to death you might be, don’t even think for a moment of escaping your conditions by coming to the United States.
Every day, a U.S. Air Force cargo plane spends 5 hours flying over Haiti broadcasting a recorded message, no doubt made at the urging of Washington officials, from Raymond Joseph, Haiti’s ambassador in Washington, stating: “Listen, don’t rush on boats to leave the country. If you do this, we’ll all have even worse problems.
Because, I’ll be honest with you: If you think you will reach the U.S. and all the doors will be wide open to you, that’s not at all the case. And they will intercept you right on the water and send you back home where you came from.”
The sentiment is echoed by State Department spokesman Noel Clay, who, ostensibly expressly a concern for the safety of Haitians, stated, “We urge Haitians in Haiti not to put their lives at additional risk by embarking on a dangerous sea journey.”
Lest Haitians fail to get the message, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, said, “This is a very dangerous crossing. Lives are lost every time people try to make this crossing. Please do not have us divert our necessary rescue and relief efforts that are going into Haiti by trying to leave at this point.”
To underscore the official U.S. sentiment, U.S. Coast Guard Commander Chris O’Neil declared, “There is no new incentive for anyone to try to enter the United States illegally by sea. The goal is to interdict them at sea and repatriate them.”
Let’s be blunt. There are two reasons why Haitians will not be permitted to escape their horrific conditions through emigration to the United States: They’re black and they’re destitute. If white Anglo-Saxon Britons were suffering the same horrific conditions that Haitians are suffering, there is no question but that U.S. officials would be welcoming them with open arms.
What I don’t understand is why Obama won’t order his subordinates to unbolt Emma Lazarus’s poem off the Statute of Liberty and toss it into the Hudson Bay. You know, the poem that talks about how the doors to America are open to those types of people who can be described as the “wretched refuse of your teeming shores.” You know, the poem that states:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me.
I lift my lamp besides the golden door!
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me.
I lift my lamp besides the golden door!
Well, what better way to describe the Haitian people than that? But it’s precisely because they are the tired, the poor, the huddled masses, the homeless, the tempest-tost that U.S. officials, who are so compassionately delivering U.S. taxpayer money to Haiti, have taken the “bolt the door” attitude toward them.
What hypocrites! What hypocrisy!
Let’s not forget that President Roosevelt, who is portrayed in U.S. public-school textbooks as a great humanitarian and who is one of Obama’s icons, had the same attitude toward Jews that U.S. officials have toward Haitians. When Hitler offered to let German Jews emigrate in the 1930s, FDR bolted the door shut and refused to permit them to enter the United States.
The reason for Roosevelt’s attitude? Let’s be blunt. They were Jews. If English Protestants were trying to escape a Nazi occupation of their country, who can doubt that Roosevelt would have opened the doors in welcome to them?
The plans to interdict and repatriate Haitians trying to save their lives also brings to mind the infamous Voyage of the Damned, when Roosevelt and his people refused to permit German Jews from disembarking from a German vessel at Miami Harbor with full knowledge that that meant that they would have to return to Germany and Hitler’s clutches.
(As an aside, isn’t it ironic that those American Jews today who so eagerly pounce on critics of the Israeli government as being anti-Semitic hardly even issue a peep of condemnation of FDR’s important contribution to the Holocaust, no doubt because they don’t consider it politic to do so.)
Our American ancestors had it right. They declared: If you are suffering tyranny or disaster in your country, our government will not come to save or help you. Private Americans, who are free to keep everything they earn, might send you assistance or even come to your assistance. If you are able and willing to escape your country, you are free to come to America and you will not be repatriated.
Today’s America declares: If you are suffering tyranny or disaster, our government will show you how caring and compassion it is with its bombs, missiles, bullets, embargoes, sanctions, and military and financial aid, provided with the money that the IRS forcibly extracts from the American people. But don’t even think about polluting our shores with your stinking bodies because our government’s forces will immediately take you into custody and repatriate you to the tyranny and destitution from which you came
Uncle Sam is conducting controlled genocide in SouthCom. There will be a great big airbase to match the fifth largest US embassy. Prelude to the total conquest of Latin America. How many Canadians will die fighting with the rotten monsters to preserve the capitalist pigs advantage?
The death toll for the Haiti earthquake has been estimated to be around 200,000.
If that figure is correct, it'd be the third deadliest earthquake in history.
The deadliest - by some distance - was one that hit Senshi Province in China on 23rd January 1556 killing 830,000 people. It is the world's third worst natural disaster in history, destroying a 520 mile wide area and creating crevices up to 66ft deep. Aftershocks continued to hit several times a month for 6 months.
It was described in the annals of China:
"In the winter of 1556, an earthquake catastrophe occurred in the Shaanxi and Shanxi Provinces. In our Hua County, various misfortunes took place. Mountains and rivers changed places and roads were destroyed. In some places, the ground suddenly rose up and formed new hills, or it sank abruptly and became new valleys. In other areas, a stream burst out in an instant, or the ground broke and new gullies appeared. Huts, official houses, temples and city walls collapsed all of a sudden."
The shaking reduced the height of the Small Wild Goose Pagoda, built between 707 and 709, in Xi'an from 45 meters to 43.4 metres.
The second deadliest was also in China. 242,000 were killed in Tangshan on 28th July 1976. The third deadliest (until this year) hit China, too, when 180,000 were killed in Kansu on 16th December 1920.
Europe's deadliest earthquake hit Naples in Italy in 1693, killing 93,000. That year was a bad year for earthquakes in Italy because another earthquake hit Sicily killing 60,000.
If that figure is correct, it'd be the third deadliest earthquake in history.
The deadliest - by some distance - was one that hit Senshi Province in China on 23rd January 1556 killing 830,000 people. It is the world's third worst natural disaster in history, destroying a 520 mile wide area and creating crevices up to 66ft deep. Aftershocks continued to hit several times a month for 6 months.
It was described in the annals of China:
"In the winter of 1556, an earthquake catastrophe occurred in the Shaanxi and Shanxi Provinces. In our Hua County, various misfortunes took place. Mountains and rivers changed places and roads were destroyed. In some places, the ground suddenly rose up and formed new hills, or it sank abruptly and became new valleys. In other areas, a stream burst out in an instant, or the ground broke and new gullies appeared. Huts, official houses, temples and city walls collapsed all of a sudden."
The shaking reduced the height of the Small Wild Goose Pagoda, built between 707 and 709, in Xi'an from 45 meters to 43.4 metres.
The second deadliest was also in China. 242,000 were killed in Tangshan on 28th July 1976. The third deadliest (until this year) hit China, too, when 180,000 were killed in Kansu on 16th December 1920.
Europe's deadliest earthquake hit Naples in Italy in 1693, killing 93,000. That year was a bad year for earthquakes in Italy because another earthquake hit Sicily killing 60,000.
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To be Brutally honest here, not all Haitian immigrants have been Michael Jean. It seems that every time I read that somebody is shot to death in Toronto it is a Haitian gang member, or by a Haitian gang member. The American experience is similar. I can understand why the Americans don't want Haitian refugees overrunning their borders, and why they want a closer look at people coming in.
Gee....and here I thought it was the Jamaicans..... but...... their all black so I guess it doesn't matter.
Sadly, I have seen the same things myself ... just the same as I have seen Indo-Pakistani gang wars and violence along Broadview in Toronto ... and Catholic-Protestant feuding in the small Central Ontario county in which I was raised ... and French-English bitterness over the control of Canada. People are such territorial critters. Closed borders are one thing. Messages designed to inspire more hate and distrust is another.
It's strange that an earthquake in Haiti can bring so much anti-Americanism. It can only come from Canadians, who resent having a much larger, more powerful and more successful neighbour.
The US can't win.
The US would have attracted venom if it stood by and done nothing. People would be complaining that the world's richest country doesn't seem to care about the catastrophe which has happened in the Western world's poorest.
But when the US does more to help the Haitians than any single country - for example, its military might allowing it to send giant aircraft carriers packed full of food and medical supplies - it's still attacked by certain morons. France (the usual suspect for anti-Americanism) even accused the US of "occupying" Haiti this week.
Do these people not release that US troops, and those of other nations, are there to help the people of Haiti after a huge disaster, and that the people of Haiti are grateful for their presence?
Quake victim Gregory Louissant said "God bess America" "Sincerely, God bless America. They're going to be blessed."
"Thank you to the doctors from Chicago, from Texas and Miami," Charles Johnson said through a translator. "We need more of you" as he received the help of personnel from Forest Park Medical Center in Dallas who set up a pavement clinic.
If the US suddenly pulled out all troops and took away the USS Carl Vinson and refused to continue to help the Haitians, and not sure the Haitians would be too happy, regardless of what some certain loony Lefties think.
The US can't win.
The US would have attracted venom if it stood by and done nothing. People would be complaining that the world's richest country doesn't seem to care about the catastrophe which has happened in the Western world's poorest.
But when the US does more to help the Haitians than any single country - for example, its military might allowing it to send giant aircraft carriers packed full of food and medical supplies - it's still attacked by certain morons. France (the usual suspect for anti-Americanism) even accused the US of "occupying" Haiti this week.
Do these people not release that US troops, and those of other nations, are there to help the people of Haiti after a huge disaster, and that the people of Haiti are grateful for their presence?
Quake victim Gregory Louissant said "God bess America" "Sincerely, God bless America. They're going to be blessed."
"Thank you to the doctors from Chicago, from Texas and Miami," Charles Johnson said through a translator. "We need more of you" as he received the help of personnel from Forest Park Medical Center in Dallas who set up a pavement clinic.
If the US suddenly pulled out all troops and took away the USS Carl Vinson and refused to continue to help the Haitians, and not sure the Haitians would be too happy, regardless of what some certain loony Lefties think.
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Most of the gangs in Toronto and Montreal are Haitian and Jamaican youth. Most Haitians and Jamaicans seem to be black but that is a secondary issue. They have guns and they are shooting each other, and the odd innocent bystander. Let's bring in a bunch more....:roll:
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of course it's secondary:roll:...... and naturally, can't be brining em here..... keep em where they are, poor, starving, and dieing early.
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Immigration in the 70's it "Oh no more Vietnamese they're all gang people" 80's was 'Oh no Chinese from Hong Kong they'll all triads" 90's The Russian gangs the Russian gangs and LA LA crack from LA, then we moved to Muzzies and today it's Haitians. Who is the next gang member? Your shadow?
Everybody knows that white people don't hang in gangs and shoot each other, and we wouldn't dig into a collapsed supermarket if we were starving after an earthquake. The second world war proved that.
We already have a place/neighborhood called Little Haiti in Miami Florida.
Perhaps Ottawa can step up and make their own Little Haiti?
Does Canada have a Little Haiti?
Perhaps Ottawa can step up and make their own Little Haiti?
Does Canada have a Little Haiti?