CBC only needs $400M to go Ad Free!!!

[Mokkajava]

If the local CBC can survive without public funding and access sufficient advertising or other funding, then I would see no harm in keeping it as an option of course. But that way the savings could go towards more text or maybe even sign-language media IR local indigenous language media. I don't see the point if the CBC being the n-th local English-Language media option while the Deaf have no sign&language option North America wide and some local indigenous communities barely have local indigenous language media at all. You do realise that some Ibuit and Ojibwa don't know English well, right?

Sane with Chinese media. Chinese&language media presently abounds in Canada especially in print, si why should the public find it if the private sector provides it already. Redundancy.

You are suggesting that the delivery of any media, regardless of content should be priority... I am suggestion the opposite. Content, who is behind the media and the message, who bought and paid for it, is something we shouldn't have to sacrifice to reach more people.it isn't redundancy. We only have one public broadcaster in our country.

It goes back to what was already suggested in this thread, an evaluation of what our public money is producing through the CBC... instead of bad TV shows, shift that money to reaching other languages... or deaf programming...
But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater

 

[Colpy]

Kelly McParland: The CBC’s answer to its privileged status — more privilege and an extra $400 million please | National Post

 

[Machjo]

You are suggesting that the delivery of any media, regardless of content should be priority... I am suggestion the opposite. Content, who is behind the media and the message, who bought and paid for it, is something we shouldn't have to sacrifice to reach more people.it isn't redundancy. We only have one public broadcaster in our country.

It goes back to what was already suggested in this thread, an evaluation of what our public money is producing through the CBC... instead of bad TV shows, shift that money to reaching other languages... or deaf programming...
But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater

What difference does it make if it's private or public? All we carre about is that its journalism be objective.

 

[Locutus]

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[Mokkajava]

What difference does it make if it's private or public? All we carre about is that its journalism be objective.

Tell me where else is media and journalism objective anymore?? I can't find it

 

[Machjo]

Even with regards to 'Canadian Content,' we find more media from across the French speaking world available in Quebec book shops and magazine stands than even the the Globe and Nail or the National Post etc.

The equivalent is true outside if Quebec. How many outside if Quebec have heard if La Presse or le journal de Montréal? Compare that with how many read the BBC website. In Quebec, more people would visit the TV5 Monde Website than BBC except maybe BBC French. I forgot about that one.

In the last two years, I have watched more films produced in China than North America or Europe.

I remember reading an article concerning Inuit trying to promote more language exchange between them in Canada and Greenland. I forget the name if the publication, but I was reading the English section if a bilingual English-Inuktitut magazine.

We find similar cooperation between Canadian and US Ojibwa and North American ASL communities.

The very concept of 'Canadian Content' requirements is anachronistic to the 1960's.

Tell me where else is media and journalism objective anymore?? I can't find it

True, and that is a problem. But honestly, I find the CBC faces the same problem unfortunately. Let's just expect more from our journalists, whether public or private sector.

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[JLM]

Sounds good if you say it fast!

 

[Machjo]

Tell me where else is media and journalism objective anymore?? I can't find it

I sometimes find a slightly different slant between the CBC and SRC even though they're both public and Canadian. With that, diversifying it between sign and indigenous language could further expand the range of perspectives which will spread through our interactions.

 

[Mokkajava]

True, and that is a problem. But honestly, I find the CBC faces the same problem unfortunately. Let's just expect more from our journalists, whether public or private sector.



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But we can't hold other media outlets bought and paid for by parties expecting them to report what benefits them to account. They are only accountable to who signs their paycheck.
With a public broadcaster, at the very least, we should have that level of accountability... so let's call them to account then...and have the content they are providing and the money spent on it evaluated...but don't just cancel it.

 

[Machjo]

But we can't hold other media outlets bought and paid for by parties expecting them to report what benefits them to account. They are only accountable to who signs their paycheck.
With a public broadcaster, at the very least, we should have that level of accountability... so let's call them to account then...and have the content they are providing and the money spent on it evaluated...but don't just cancel it.

I could see allowing anyone to request his share of funding in a media voucher that he can use to subscribe to participating media of his choice. We could allow participating media to exempt itself from Canadian Content rules but require it to provide coverage in the local sign language (usually ASL though sometimes Quebec Sign Language and in the far north, Inuit Sign Language and Plains Sign Language in some regions. ASL media could conglomerate with ASL media in the US for economies of scale due to no more Canadian Content rule. The public media funding portion if those who don't request a voucher could default to the CBC/SRC.

Firstly, allowing people to request the voucher could reduce redundancy with the private sector by shifting funding from English and French towards sign languages and indigenous languages.

Secondly, our freedom to request a voucher could keep the CBC on its tiws to remain more responsive to the funding market. Private media that want access to public funding might then also feel the value of shifting to catering to the Deaf and others too.

I have other more controversial ideas, but this could be a start to make public media complement rather than compete with private media.

Also, if we can ask for a voucher, that keeps the CBC on its towes objectivity-wise too.

 

[mentalfloss]

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[Curious Cdn]

I was just listening to "the Current" in which they went from LGBT rights under Fidel directly to the production of Yak milk tea in Bhutan.

No, I'm not kidding.

I really think the country would hold together without CBC Radio

It is a little "out there" a lot of the time but there is no other radio available to us, at all, that has any intelligent programming, at all. The only other radio available on the continent that isn't targeting zombies is NPR. However weird the CBC comes across, it beats the hell out of continuous AOR / Rap / Hip hop / Country and Western / "Easy listening" pre-chewed pap that passes for radio.

 

[Remington1]

For rural areas I concede that CBC has some relevancy, but for now only and definitely only if they can keep getting enough ads to sustain themselves, I do not see myself getting tax for CBC's survival. Not at all.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Their radio network has value and it helps to stitch the country together. The television network, though, is nothing special and getting rid of the commercials will only erode their original production budgets even more. I wouldn't miss CBC TV if it went off the air, today. There was a time when they made all sorts of original material but it evolved into a bloated burocracy that doesn't seem to produce much of anything, anymore. Whenever they had their budgets cut, the CBC response was to cut programming, leaving a useless Jabba the Hut behind that still managed to soak up billions. Keep the less expensive radio network, ditch the television network. TV is becoming obsolete anyway but, as long as we drive around in cars, we will need good radio.

Maybe, but I wouldn't miss CTV either. Canada needs a national broadcaster that does not have to cater to advertising. Following the US model of relying on for-profit networks will not serve us well.

 

[tay]

Ads on RadioTwo were dropped in August.

One or Two?

I listened today and it was One. I looked up 2 and it seems to be mainly artsy stuff.......

 

[Cannuck]

Look folks, the reality is, things are changing. Ask 100 people under 35 if they have EVER listened to CBC radio. Ask 100 people under 35 if the watch more than 2 hours a week of ANY network TV. I doubt you would get more than 5% that have done either. Any discussion about CBC funding has to start with what the CBC is expected to do and how it's expected to do it. Even for those that want an organization fully funded by tax payers, they need to suggest something in the way if making the CBC relevant again to younger generations

 

[taxslave]

Anyone wanting CBC is free to pay for it but don't expect the rest of us to fork out hard earned tax dollars for that drivel. Make it PPV. Or PPL for radio.

For rural areas I concede that CBC has some relevancy, but for now only and definitely only if they can keep getting enough ads to sustain themselves, I do not see myself getting tax for CBC's survival. Not at all.

Not since we got satellite radio. No more irrelevant Toronto imposed drivel. ANy kind of music you like add free.

 

[Cannuck]

Anyone wanting CBC is free to pay for it but don't expect the rest of us to fork out hard earned tax dollars for that drivel.

We still live in a democracy sunshine. Suck it up

 

[pgs]

We still live in a democracy sunshine. Suck it up

No we actually live in a constitutional monarchy .

 

[Cannuck]

Hehehe