CBC loses control of 'Hockey Night in Canada' to Rogers in blockbuster deal

petros

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Well how about that. I was half correct at least. Regardless taxslave is still listening to a CBC product in the end.
 

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I tend to think jobs are an ok thing.

As a consumer though, I really enjoy the type of programming that can be produced without solely commercial interests. On the radio side of things, NPR and CBC are really the only places you can go to find radio programming that actually has a bit of thought and effort put into it. CBC news outlets are able to go more in depth into issues than other news shows and don't have to resort to sensationalism to drive ratings.

I think that it really makes us better off as a society to have these options available, even if you don't necessarily consume it at this very moment.

I don't mind CBC radio news. Often listen to it early morning when running machines. It is just that the rest of the radio side is such total crap.
As for the jobs, if they have to be subsidized by the taxpayer then we really have to decide if they are worth having or not. The movie industry creates lots of low pay short term jobs but few long term or decent pay and the industry is constantly playing one economically depressed area against another to get cheap help. The big money never gets close to where the work is done.

Well how about that. I was half correct at least. Regardless taxslave is still listening to a CBC product in the end.

Nope. Satellite radio is for music. Don't care who delivers it as long as there is not a bunch of idiots talking.
Wonder why CBC should be owning a share in something that clearly should be a commercial endeavor?
 

petros

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I don't mind CBC radio news. Often listen to it early morning when running machines. It is just that the rest of the radio side is such total crap.
As for the jobs, if they have to be subsidized by the taxpayer then we really have to decide if they are worth having or not. The movie industry creates lots of low pay short term jobs but few long term or decent pay and the industry is constantly playing one economically depressed area against another to get cheap help. The big money never gets close to where the work is done.



Nope. Satellite radio is for music. Don't care who delivers it as long as there is not a bunch of idiots talking.
Wonder why CBC should be owning a share in something that clearly should be a commercial endeavor?
Because the CBC makes money by entering into commercial endeavors.
 

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With a proven bias.

How so? If your "proof" involved Ezra Levant than don't bother.

Filled with elitist crap, biased news, biased editorials, and crappy CanCon.

It is funny you say that because CBC radio is pretty much the only talk radio station where the hosts don't rant about their personal political views.

Pretty much all other talk radio channels are just call in shows and guys being deliberately controversial to try to draw people in really quickly. They just divide up the day between a few hosts and tell them to kill 3 or 4 hours at a time with whatever they can.

With the CBC you actually get some shows that are produced in advance, with thought and research put into them. They can get much better guests that other stations and actually have a decent conversation with them.

Which for the most part suck.

I don't watch a ton of TV, but I do like Dragon's Den and Mr. D.
 

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How so? If your "proof" involved Ezra Levant than don't bother.
Nope, long before Ezra even made the evening news, there was CBCWatch. Very illuminating.

It is funny you say that because CBC radio is pretty much the only talk radio station where the hosts don't rant about their personal political views.

Pretty much all other talk radio channels are just call in shows and guys being deliberately controversial to try to draw people in really quickly. They just divide up the day between a few hosts and tell them to kill 3 or 4 hours at a time with whatever they can.

With the CBC you actually get some shows that are produced in advance, with thought and research put into them. They can get much better guests that other stations and actually have a decent conversation with them.
Canned opinions bore me.

I don't watch a ton of TV, but I do like Dragon's Den and Mr. D.
To each their own.
 

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Nope, long before Ezra even made the evening news, there was CBCWatch. Very illuminating.

Canned opinions bore me.

To each their own.

Before you get all bitchy again, maybe try responding to my post in the Operation Christmas Child thread. This seems like a waste of time if you are just going to insult me and then run away when actual evidence is presented.

Failing that, maybe actually post the "proof" you claim to have instead of just repeatedly claiming that it exists.
 

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CBC loses control of 'Hockey Night in Canada' to Rogers in blockbuster deal

TORONTO - Canada's hockey TV landscape underwent a seismic shift Tuesday as Rogers Communications wrested control of NHL multimedia rights with a blockbuster 12-year, $5.2-billion agreement that will preserve "Hockey Night in Canada" but limit CBC's role in the iconic broadcast.
The deal, the largest in NHL history, gives Rogers national rights to all NHL games, including the playoffs and Stanley Cup final, on all of its platforms in all languages.
"It will be the NHL like never before," Rogers Media president Keith Pelley promised at a packed news conference Tuesday, touting a "transformational day" for the industry, as well as Rogers' position as a burgeoning sports broadcasting titan.
A sub-licensing agreement with CBC allows the public broadcaster to continue airing "Hockey Night in Canada" on Saturday nights for four years, while TVA in Quebec earned all of the Canadian French-language multi-media rights.
But the Rogers coup includes rights to the venerable "Hockey Night in Canada" brand, allowing Rogers (TSX:RCI.B) to also air the weekly staple across all of its platforms, including City and Sportsnet.
"Sometimes it's almost surreal — acquiring the most coveted content in all of Canada, and there is nothing even close, which is the national rights to 'Hockey Night in Canada,'" Pelley told reporters after the news conference.
"And that's pretty exciting but it's daunting and overwhelming at the same time."
The broader arrangement guarantees there will be no further regionalization of games or local blackouts. Rogers has three exclusive windows to broadcast any game involving a Canadian team — Wednesday nights, Saturday nights (including the weekly match-ups on CBC) and Sunday nights.
The deal is a devastating blow to Bell Media's all-sports channel TSN, a bitter rival to Sportsnet that has relied on the NHL to build its brand, and to the beleaguered CBC, which gives up lucrative hockey revenues that have traditionally subsidized its slate of original Canadian programming.
And even though "Hockey Night in Canada" will continue to be a staple, it's likely to undergo a radical new look.
"From next year on, the content of that show, whatever features are being done, that's a Rogers responsibility and you know what, it's kind of fair, they just paid $5.2 billion for 12 years for that," CBC president Hubert Lacroix said following the announcement.
He outlined the shift in an internal memo to staff, noting that "starting next year, Rogers will assume all editorial control (all editorial decisions with respect to the content, on-air talent and the creative direction of HNIC — we have the right to be consulted and there is a commitment to excellence) under the new agreement."
He added that it wasn't "the outcome we had hoped for," confirming there will be job losses, though not as many as there would have been had they lost the NHL altogether.
Lacroix said at the news conference that the NHL had high financial expectations and the CBC was "not in a position to spend taxpayers money on this game of high stakes."
While CBC will no longer make money from "Hockey Night in Canada," Lacroix said airing the games will still be good for the public broadcaster.
"We think the ability to still have 'Hockey Night in Canada' is something important to us ... and that's what we get out of this," he said.
He notes the deal allows CBC to promote its programming in primetime across all Rogers networks.
"So when you're going to see a minute promoting 'Cracked' or promoting 'Arctic Air' or the 'Dragons' (Den)' it's going to be something that's not only going to be on our network but it's going to be on all the other networks," he said.
Nevertheless, Lacroix acknowledged that lucrative hockey profits will no longer be available to help fund original series such as "Republic of Doyle" and "Mr. D."
He said discussions were underway to possibly generate income in other ways, should CBC partner up with Rogers in the production of "Hockey Night in Canada."
"Then if they use some of our resources — and we have different agreements going on right now — it will be something that will either be paid in kind or in services or in cash."
The ramifications of the deal are myriad and ongoing. For example, Pelley floated the possibility of CBC newscasts airing on City, for example, after a playoff game.
The deal also raises questions about the future of CBC's talent, especially fan favourite Don Cherry. Pelley said it was too soon to answer those questions, but noted that Grapes could very possibly turn up as a commentator on City or Sportsnet.
"Over the next months and years, we will evaluate all facets of our production and our programming, certainly in consultation with CBC regarding 'Hockey Night in Canada,'" said Pelley.
TSN will be severely impacted by the blockbuster agreement, although it still has some regional hockey deals.
Bell Media vice-president of communications Scott Henderson said TSN would have 10 Leafs games next season under a regional agreement and that, starting in 2015, the network would have 26 regional Leafs games. TSN also has a deal for more than 60 regional Jets games through 2021.
TSN personality James Duthie reminded fans on Twitter that the specialty network is still airing games and is gearing up for the World Juniors in a month.
"Been a privilege being a part of The NHL on TSN the past 12 years. Congrats and best of luck to Rogers/HNIC," Duthie tweeted.
Sports consultant Brian Cooper, president of S&E Sponsorship, noted that TSN still holds a lot of popular championships in basketball, soccer and golf but called the news "a severe body blow (to TSN)."
"In this country, there is only one sport that really matters," said Cooper.
"They have a lot of programming that they probably weren't using around those championships that they're now going to have to employ instead of putting on the shelf but this has changed the landscape tremendously in this country."
In a curious wrinkle, TSN retains the rights to the "Hockey Night in Canada" theme song. It secured ownership in 2008 after CBC was unable to negotiate a new agreement with the song's composer.
Pelley said he couldn't comment on the song except to say it's not part of the deal "for obvious reasons."
Rogers CEO and president Nadir Mohamed said the new agreement makes sense for Rogers, which has made sports investments a priority.
"We've had a focus on sports for the last few years," he said. "I talked about the investments we've made, whether it's the Jays, the MLSE, investment, The Score, regional rights to hockey. So really, in some ways, this is the icing on the cake."
"Categorically this is positive for shareholders at Rogers," he added. "It's a financially good deal for us."
The deal is subject to approval by the NHL board of governors, which meets Dec. 9 and 10 in Pebble Beach, Calif.


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Good. Seeing that I'm not much of a fan of MMA... er... I mean hockey, why should my taxes subsidize someone's cuncussions?
 

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It will be a change, but they do still have a lot of regional broadcast rights. There will definitely be layoffs at TSN and HNIC, but rogers now has to produce a hell of a lot of hockey, so I am sure they will snap up a lot of those workers.

Hopefully they snap up enough to get rid of their current crews. I hate watching hockey on sportsnet because of the s hitty commentators

Hasn't been worth watching since they canned Bob Cole. I could care less.

Good riddance. Listening to him try and pronounce De-troy-it was annoying
 

DaSleeper

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As long as they hire Don Cherry.....they'll be all right.
 

Cannuck

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.... This seems like a waste of time if you are just going to insult me and then run away when actual evidence is presented.

That's what he does. He's the forum troll. You must understand though, he sees himself as inferior due to a self professed disadvantaged position. This, coupled with his drug use, has lead him to his current state. Humour him. We are, after all, responsible for his current situation.
 

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Are you PMSing again? You're such a primo bitch when that happens. LOL.
Nah, I just needed a Mars bar.

That's what he does. He's the forum troll. You must understand though, he sees himself as inferior due to a self professed disadvantaged position. This, coupled with his drug use, has lead him to his current state. Humour him. We are, after all, responsible for his current situation.
Oh oh, poor poor angry Cannuck.

So you have chosen to respond to neither of the topics I mentioned?
Ummm, you mentioned one, and I did.

I can see why you would want to pretend I didn't though.
 

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Ummm, you mentioned one, and I did.

I can see why you would want to pretend I didn't though.

Either respond to the Christmas Child thread or actually show the "proof" you have about the CBC. Which one did you do?