That is inaccurate, the proportion is not greater than that of the general population. What is accurate is the Church receives substantially more publicity than other occupations, for obvious reasons.
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That is inaccurate, the proportion is not greater than that of the general population. What is accurate is the Church receives substantially more publicity than other occupations, for obvious reasons.
(sorry about the confusing paragraph I correct it)
but 2:1 is a low ball, and I am not saying every priest is a rapist, but if you compare to protestant clergy there is a HUGE difference (I can't remember the site which tracks all cases of sex abuse by clergy but I will find it for reference) (Roman Catholic only make up 5% of churches in the US)
Better find a new source of info, the Church makes up far more than 5% in the USA, and is also, in terms of numbers, the largest denomination in the States.
Agreed...the catholic church is huge...worldwide. That's why it's teachings can have such a massive impact on our society. And that can be scary. Not saying that all Catholic teachings are concerning. There are many great things that all churches teach. But, there are some that are a little...scary.
I'm not telling you stop posting, but can't you see, like all topics, discussion
comes to an end, everyone said what they thought, now, to repeat it over, and over and over becomes
very monotonous and fruitless. We all know now what we "all" think on the topic. You can't expect
Sanctus to take a different approach than the one he believes, just as noone expects you to do that
either. If you can't let it go, you'll have to go to a "larger" place, like the Vatican to "post" your
complaints, noone here has any power to "do" anything about much of anything on this board.
I enjoy reading posts from Sanctus, and from time to time, I ask him questions. He is only one
"priest", who is obviously taking time out of his day to "post" here, and if we lose him, it will be
our loss, not his.
I have learned that he is happy to answer questions, but he doesn't deserve to be "attacked" as
though he is "Head" of the Vatican.
If you were a "loyal" servant of your company , and people were "badgering" and
"berating" you constantly about how the company was run, wouldn't you tell them to "take" it
upstairs, I know I would.
But...I'm asking alot of questions on a lot of subjects. I'm not just focusing on one. I'm trying to understand as much as challenge. I don't think I am badgering anyone. Sanctus ignores me anyway, so obviously I'm not badgering him...or at least it doesn't matter if I am. I'm just trying to have a discussion...like the title says.
I'm only referring to the homosexual/church stuff, and you know that, I couldn't care less what you are talking to others about.
So what? I can't bring up the issue? I'm violating some rule to even discuss it? Is there a 2000 year old tradition of me not talking about it all either? It's an issue that I feel strongly about. I post about it. What others want to do with it is up to them. I'm sure some people dislike what I post and when I post and where I post...others don't have a problem with it. That's basically the way it is in forums. But, I am open to comments and criticism of my posts, there is no doubt about that. I am open to learning from what other people say. Just as we are having this discussion related to this issue, I am open to any discussions on any issues.
Don't you care how many times you repeat yourself?, how old are you anyway, 90?
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Well, undoubtedly, I will bring up similar cases again and again...but in relation to different things that have been stated, linking it, stating that I feel that something has been said favours what I am trying to say. Sure, the same points will resurface. But, that's discussion as well...things come around again. Do I care? Well...I dunno....should I? If it means that I have to stop participating in conversations because someone says that I repeat myself too often, then, no, I don't care. I feel that I pipe in at appropriate places with my opinions and try to connect them to things that are being discussed in the thread.
maybe this would be a useful suggestion for you snfu:
every time you find an issue in the catholic discussion thread that you want to discuss, make a new thread specifically for that discussion. I think most of the trouble comes from the catholics wishing to discuss finer details of interesting bits and peices of the bible (for instance) and then having to stop to deal with another topic which they feel they've already discussed, or just plain don't want to talk about.
every time you find an issue in the catholic discussion thread that you want to discuss, make a new thread specifically for that discussion. I think most of the trouble comes from the catholics wishing to discuss finer details of interesting bits and peices of the bible (for instance) and then having to stop to deal with another topic which they feel they've already discussed, or just plain don't want to talk about.
Well...in someways I agree with what you are saying...but, to me, I see this as an open discussion. And, I am openly discussing within the open discussion. And, often, to start a new thread, there would be some back explaining to do. If what I am to post is related to something specifically in this thread, then, why not put in this thread? I guess what I am saying is, it is a public forum. If people are looking to discuss these issues with no outside interference then a private forum is the better way to go. I don't see me as breaking any rules. I stand by the things that I have said. I believe that, for the most part, I have made good points. And, sometimes they are responded to, and other times, they aren't. Threads will twist and turn...most that I have been in have done that. So, again, i don't see what I have been doing as anything wrong. It's just something that a few people seem to not like. But, any way I go, someone is not going to like something I say, when I say it and where I say it...so....
remember the people who enjoy this thread are experts in catholicism, whereas you're knowledge is relatively small. it'd be like walking into a lecture on quantum mechanics and asking them what an electron was and why it could be both a wave and a particle
Well...hmmm...I still have opinions...and they are an outsiders opinion. I may not be as well versed in the bible as some of these folks, but I can see the affects of the church on my community or what have you. I can respond to the teachings...whether I agree with them or not. You know what I mean? I mean, first and foremost it is a discussion. Those who would ignore me, already do, so they have the freedom to do that and continue the thread in any way they wish. I'm not saying anyone has to respond to me...but at the same time, if I have a point to make a particular time, I feel that I should be able to present it in a public forum. There have been times where I haven't been very nice about it, but more often I feel that I haven't been overly rude or meanspirited about it. I dunno. I mean, I know what you guys are saying...but what I am feeling is that people just want me to shut up and go away because they don't like what I am saying....but, is that...right? I don't know. I mean, what is the point of even coming in places like this if people just want to say where I should post this or that, when and how....you know? That's kind of a crappy discussion forum.
youre right. i know he is probably a nice guy, but he thinks he is so all that and he posts like he is the last word on any topic to do with god or the bible. but im going to follow your good advice and just ignore him.
