Capitalism can not eradicate poverty

Curious Cdn

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capitalism keeps more than some poor, and the entire point of socialism is to have every living person have a high standard of living. that may require no more billionaires sitting in their mansions that are the size of islands. huge loss i know.

That, of course, would explain why all those good card carrying party member, ex-KGB types like Putin scooped up billions of dollars worth of state-owned assets without asking and set most the Russian people back to the 1930's glory years of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Caveman were opportunists. Far as you can get from being socialists.

If Socialists aren't at least somewhat opportunistic, they will die off because of their lack of initiative in exploiting niches to survive and thrive in.

It's a Darwinian thing, I'm afraid. Thugs prevail because they generally win.
 

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I only get sad and depressed when I see how much money the governments steal from my paycheque.

Unfortunatel, the sheeple are still lining up to kiss their butts. It is futile to try to wake up the willfully ignorant.

WHy we don't worry too much about what you and the other freeloaders post.
 

captain morgan

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no it isn't. capitalism is the newer than them all. socialism was what caveman practiced.

it's obvious corruption comes from the greed of money, you take money out of the equation you get no corruption. in a system where wealth and profit aren't king this dramatically reduces or eliminates entirely incentives for corruption.

who's demanding lower costs? more like most people are in poverty and they can only afford lower prices. because of losing jobs overseas as capitalists that want to exploit the cheaper labour. in north america you actually need to spend money on decent workers wages and safety, **** that ****. let's exploit cheaper labour in Bangladesh where we don't have to spend a dime on workers safety and give them poverty wages. if that building collapses due to negligence, oh well. it wouldn't be the first time our negligence has killed exploited labour, we just move on.

it was answered goof. the workers do all the work already.

Let's review the factoids that you vomit forth.

Neanderthal (possibly Cromagnon?) man developed and practiced socialism.

Your utopic system doesn't employ money... Newsflash!.. 'Money' is a representation of goods/services, that's it... Even if you're prepared to walk around with a mess of chickens in tow, bushel of wheat and some shiny rocks, you'll be using money.

'The People' are demanding lower costs.. Take a stroll by your local Walmart to observe.

PS - You haven't answered any question put to you.. It's obvious that any answer would undermine the thin ideology that you pretend has any legs
 

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That, of course, would explain why all those good card carrying party member, ex-KGB types like Putin scooped up billions of dollars worth of state-owned assets without asking and set most the Russian people back to the 1930's glory years of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Russia is capitalist and never really did practice Marxism very well.

If Socialists aren't at least somewhat opportunistic, they will die off because of their lack of initiative in exploiting niches to survive and thrive in.

It's a Darwinian thing, I'm afraid. Thugs prevail because they generally win.

Thugs prevail because the system works in their favour.

I only get sad and depressed when I see how much money the governments steal from my paycheque.

Why? Are you a freeloader? You need to pay taxes or you're a freeloader.

Let's review the factoids that you vomit forth.

Neanderthal (possibly Cromagnon?) man developed and practiced socialism.

Your utopic system doesn't employ money... Newsflash!.. 'Money' is a representation of goods/services, that's it... Even if you're prepared to walk around with a mess of chickens in tow, bushel of wheat and some shiny rocks, you'll be using money.

'The People' are demanding lower costs.. Take a stroll by your local Walmart to observe.

PS - You haven't answered any question put to you.. It's obvious that any answer would undermine the thin ideology that you pretend has any legs
Yea I just explained to you those people at Walmart aren't demanding lower prices, it's what they can afford.

If I'm only buying cheap things because It's all I can afford I'm not demanding everything be cheap, It's just my only option so I don't go broke.

Meanwhile Walmart's profits are extravagant, yet workers wages not so much.

We know the Native Americans practiced socialism well before any sort of capitalistic system existed.
 

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You won't get an argument from me - believe it or not, I agree with you when it comes to corporate handouts - they should be few and far between and only in extenuating circumstances.


Government should not be in the business of business.. Governments should only be involved in ensuring there is a good climate for businesses to succeed without drowning them in rules and regulations and that such rules and regulations make sense and are for the common good.


My understanding from what I've read is that under Obama rules and regulations have increased 100 fold. Some are so onerous as to be ridiculous and unworkable and others contradict regulations already in force so no one knows which regulation takes precedence. Its utter stupidity.


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When I hear people whine about all the regulations that government puts on business my thoughts usually run in this direction, if you don't want to be regulated, then stop Fvcking each other over. Reminds me of the line Jim Carey used in the movie Liar, Liar when the crook he represented needed his services once again,,,Careys line was,,,,"Stop Breaking the Law Azzhole!. Only people that need regulated are those that need regulated.
 

Curious Cdn

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Thugs prevail, (regrettably) and the meek shall inherit the Earth only in Fairyland and in the Book of Matthew. The default structure of human organization is one (1) ultra-powerful thug supported by a pyramid of lesser thugs below him who toady to the Great Thug. They are supported by extracting the maximum possible resources from the vast majority of us, who are non-thugs and who, for their own good, had better do what all of the thugs tell them to do (capiche?)

This is how Capitalist societies are structured.

This is how Communist societies are structured.

This is how Fascist societies are structured.

This is how theocracies are structured.

This is how Socialist societies end up (every time).

This is even how tribal hunter-gatherers usually end up, to.


This is how our species Homo Sapiens Sapiens (yes, you can laugh now) organizes ourselves. We can't get beyond it which suggests that it is deeply ingrained in our Mammalian biology to act like other mammals.


p.s. Yes. We are probably headed back to a Medieval-type society.
 

gore0bsessed

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Thugs prevail, (regrettably) and the meek shall inherit the Earth only in Fairyland and in the Book of Matthew. The default structure of human organization is one (1) ultra-powerful thug supported by a pyramid of lesser thugs below him who toady to the Great Thug. They are supported by extracting the maximum possible resources from the vast majority of us, who are non-thugs and who, for their own good, had better do what all of the thugs tell them to do (capiche?)
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Right you just described capitalism.
 

captain morgan

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Yea I just explained to you those people at Walmart aren't demanding lower prices, it's what they can afford.

If I'm only buying cheap things because It's all I can afford I'm not demanding everything be cheap, It's just my only option so I don't go broke.

Meanwhile Walmart's profits are extravagant, yet workers wages not so much.

We know the Native Americans practiced socialism well before any sort of capitalistic system existed.

You explained nothing... You never do

The People demand lower cost items and not exclusively due to necessity... Observe what people walk out of a shopping mall with, it is not the simple basics of life that you fool yourself into believing

Walmart's profits are huge because they operate tens if not hundreds of thousands of stores.. They spent even more obscene amounts of money to build and stock those stores.

RE; Indigenous peoples practicing 'socialism'... Why is it that they do not maintain he practice today when the option for a better system exists?.. Maybe has something to do with them sticking to the superior system?
 

gore0bsessed

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You explained nothing... You never do

Just because you don't understand things doesn't mean it wasn't explained, it just means you didn't understand it, although I'm not sure how it went over your head because it was a rather simple explanation.

The People demand lower cost
no they don't. already told you why.


Walmart's profits are huge because they operate tens if not hundreds of thousands of stores.. They spent even more obscene amounts of money to build and stock those stores.
no they spend minimum wage (not a livable wage) to get workers stock their stores.

RE; Indigenous peoples practicing 'socialism'... Why is it that they do not maintain he practice today when the option for a better system exists?.. Maybe has something to do with them sticking to the superior system?


they were all killed and the only descendants were violently assimilated into western culture.
 

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RE; Indigenous peoples practicing 'socialism'... Why is it that they do not maintain he practice today when the option for a better system exists?.. Maybe has something to do with them sticking to the superior system?
Don't be absurd (as usual). You don't have a clue about the Indian Act or how government controls every aspect of their lives. They are forced into this system at gun point. They have no choice. They either deny who they are and become an apple or live in abject poverty. The government controls all the money and will deny it if the tribe displeases them. And then there are clowns like you who spread hate and propaganda to suit your sense of superiority.
 

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projecting capitalism's failures on other systems that haven't even been tried yet, yea one trick pony of the mentally crippled.
 

captain morgan

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Don't be absurd (as usual). You don't have a clue about the Indian Act or how government controls every aspect of their lives. They are forced into this system at gun point. They have no choice. They either deny who they are and become an apple or live in abject poverty. The government controls all the money and will deny it if the tribe displeases them. And then there are clowns like you who spread hate and propaganda to suit your sense of superiority.

That is hilarious... You really do live in a fantasy world

How a B.C. native band went from poverty to prosperity - The Globe and Mail
 

Curious Cdn

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projecting capitalism's failures on other systems that haven't even been tried yet, yea one trick pony of the mentally crippled.

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If I wish REAL HARD I can change basic Human nature forever and build a utopia!


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