Capitalism can not eradicate poverty

captain morgan

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The question implies only a surface level understanding of economics. There are just way too many assumptions that need unpacking. If you really want to get down to it you'd have to feel away the 20th century political theatre and dig much much deeper. How much time do you have?

How much time?

It's a simple yes or no answer

wow, i'm enlightened now. who knew it was that easy.

It really is that easy, why you want some form of gvt to legislate your happiness is way beyond reason
 

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Capitalism is a predatory sport and only capitalists win. But cannibalism could eradicate poverty in short order. Just put the poor on the menu in high end restaurants and the rich would eat them up. They have no interest in eradicating poverty but they do have an interest in eradicating the poor. Whiny little pricks are always trying to guilt out the rich for their greed and ruthlessness. Cannibalism kills two birds with one knife. I'm surprised they haven't lobbied government to make it legal. Or perhaps that is what is behind making being homeless against the law. Take em to a FEMA camp, fatten them up and then serve them up.
 

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It really is that easy, why you want some form of gvt to legislate your happiness is way beyond reason
government seems to legislate big business' happiness fairly well.

Capitalism is a predatory sport and only capitalists win. But cannibalism could eradicate poverty in short order. Just put the poor on the menu in high end restaurants and the rich would eat them up. They have no interest in eradicating poverty but they do have an interest in eradicating the poor. Whiny little pricks are always trying to guilt out the rich for their greed and ruthlessness. Cannibalism kills two birds with one knife. I'm surprised they haven't lobbied government to make it legal. Or perhaps that is what is behind making being homeless against the law. Take em to a FEMA camp, fatten them up and then serve them up.
imagine all the working class gone for no rich elites to exploit, they'd be lost.
 

captain morgan

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It is that easy. Why is the obvious always overlooked?

Blind in one eye and can't see out of the other


There'd be no law suits without capitalism..... In your preferred system, The State does not tolerate any dissension or 'lawsuits' by the plebes

government seems to legislate big business' happiness fairly well.

How so?... By raising taxes on a multi-level basis each year?

imagine all the working class gone for no rich elites to exploit, they'd be lost.

Where, or where, would the working class go to buy their X-Boxes and iPhones?

Unfortunatel, the sheeple are still lining up to kiss their butts. It is futile to try to wake up the willfully ignorant.

What's their option Cliffy?... Starve and suffer without any basics simply to make you feel a little more smug whilst cashing your gubmint cheques and demanding unlimited free healthcare?

How big of you
 

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Do you remember the episode of the Flintstones where Fred gets bonked on the head and takes on the persona of Frederick?
 

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Blind in one eye and can't see out of the other

There'd be no law suits without capitalism..... In your preferred system, The State does not tolerate any dissension or 'lawsuits' by the plebes

How so?... By raising taxes on a multi-level basis each year?

Where, or where, would the working class go to buy their X-Boxes and iPhones?

What's their option Cliffy?... Starve and suffer without any basics simply to make you feel a little more smug whilst cashing your gubmint cheques and demanding unlimited free healthcare?

How big of you

Of course. Only a capitalist would be blind to the existence of alternative economic systems that are more equitable. "I'm all right Jack, so phukk everybody else", the capitalist refrain. And no, socialism is not the only alternative, neither is communism (just to cut you off at the pass). Maybe you're in a position to kiss the ruling elite's collective azz, but the vast majority of people are being screwed by the system. But you just continue holding your pecker while cashing you fat dividend cheques while the fat trickles down to you, and just forget about those at the bottom who don't see any of it. Your narrow mindedness is the real problem, not the poor.
 

petros

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If there were a better way to make money from "alternatives", capitalists would have been all over it in a heartbeat.
 

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There'd be no law suits without capitalism..... In your preferred system, The State does not tolerate any dissension or 'lawsuits' by the plebes

of course there would be, and they'd be fairer and less prone to corruption under another system.

How so?... By raising taxes on a multi-level basis each year?
you mean lowering their taxes and letting them exploit labour overseas.

Where, or where, would the working class go to buy their X-Boxes and iPhones?

where would the working class go to buy products they created, imported, and put on the shelves? lmao
 

captain morgan

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Of course. Only a capitalist would be blind to the existence of alternative economic systems that are more equitable.

What a joke... All of your 'alternative' systems are take-offs of capitalism.

No doubt, you'd be pissing and moaning at every turn until the 'alternative system' was a complete and total welfare state

"I'm all right Jack, so phukk everybody else"

You have just described the corruption and graft within the 'collective alternate system' that you admire so deeply

Maybe you're in a position to kiss the ruling elite's collective azz, but the vast majority of people are being screwed by the system.



But you just continue holding your pecker while cashing you fat dividend cheques while the fat trickles down to you, and just forget about those at the bottom who don't see any of it. Your narrow mindedness is the real problem, not the poor.

Dividend cheques are just one income stream for most... There's direct income, rental revenues, royalties, capital gains, etc, etc, etc.

Anyone (even you) can tap into this magical and mysterious ocean of wealth.... Ask me nicely and I might (well, probably not) show you the secret handshake

of course there would be, and they'd be fairer and less prone to corruption under another system.

Really?... Any explanation or maybe links to this wonderful system?

you mean lowering their taxes and letting them exploit labour overseas.

... And even with those 'lowered' taxes (as you call them), NorAm still can't compete and supply the demand for lower cost goods from The People.

Funny, isn't it?... The People that you are hell bent on saving are the epicenter of the influence that has driven mfg out of the country.

where would the working class go to buy products they created, imported, and put on the shelves? lmao

You still haven't answered the question, have you?
 

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Ok, if rich people don't create jobs, who does oh wise one?
Well, the same politicians who tell us we need to give massive tax breaks to the 1% of "job creators" also tell us that 2/3 of all American jobs are in small businesses.

They apparently don't see the contradiction.
 

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What a joke... All of your 'alternative' systems are take-offs of capitalism.
no it isn't. capitalism is the newer than them all. socialism was what caveman practiced.

Really?... Any explanation or maybe links to this wonderful system?
it's obvious corruption comes from the greed of money, you take money out of the equation you get no corruption. in a system where wealth and profit aren't king this dramatically reduces or eliminates entirely incentives for corruption.



... And even with those 'lowered' taxes (as you call them), NorAm still can't compete and supply the demand for lower cost goods from The People.


Funny, isn't it?... The People that you are hell bent on saving are the epicenter of the influence that has driven mfg out of the country.

who's demanding lower costs? more like most people are in poverty and they can only afford lower prices. because of losing jobs overseas as capitalists that want to exploit the cheaper labour. in north america you actually need to spend money on decent workers wages and safety, **** that ****. let's exploit cheaper labour in Bangladesh where we don't have to spend a dime on workers safety and give them poverty wages. if that building collapses due to negligence, oh well. it wouldn't be the first time our negligence has killed exploited labour, we just move on.



You still haven't answered the question, have you?

it was answered goof. the workers do all the work already.
 

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yep nothing like 40 hr weeks of drudgery to cure depression
honestly I've always considered work to be good thing. Chance to be productive and creative. The lazo attitude plays right into the hands of the conservative mindset that anyone not like me must be looking for a hand out. Which is a generalization that is simply not true,,,,now in a partial sense.:).
 

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Well, the same politicians who tell us we need to give massive tax breaks to the 1% of "job creators" also tell us that 2/3 of all American jobs are in small businesses.

They apparently don't see the contradiction.



You won't get an argument from me - believe it or not, I agree with you when it comes to corporate handouts - they should be few and far between and only in extenuating circumstances.


Government should not be in the business of business.. Governments should only be involved in ensuring there is a good climate for businesses to succeed without drowning them in rules and regulations and that such rules and regulations make sense and are for the common good.


My understanding from what I've read is that under Obama rules and regulations have increased 100 fold. Some are so onerous as to be ridiculous and unworkable and others contradict regulations already in force so no one knows which regulation takes precedence. Its utter stupidity.


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