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If you ask the question in a staight forward way, yes they do support the mission. The polls that indicated the negative, were missleading questions at best, at worsed, they were devised to produce an incorrect answer. I'm leaning towards the latter, seeing as it the two pols that showed the least support, were initialised by liberal leaning papers.
A good quote from Noam Chomsky,
"...the point of public relations slogans like "Support Our Troops" is that they don't mean anything [...] that's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody is gonna be against and I suppose everybody will be for, because nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything. But its crucial value is that it diverts your attention from a question that does mean something, do you support our policy? And that's the one you're not allowed to talk about." Noam Chomsky
"...the point of public relations slogans like "Support Our Troops" is that they don't mean anything [...] that's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody is gonna be against and I suppose everybody will be for, because nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything. But its crucial value is that it diverts your attention from a question that does mean something, do you support our policy? And that's the one you're not allowed to talk about." Noam Chomsky
Why is Noam Chomsky a fool? You say things without backing it up. You sound like Anne Coulter.
Let's Compare Noam Chomsky to Bush.
Noam Chomsky is the Institute Professor Emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of technology. He created the theory of generative grammer. He received his Ph.D. in linguistics from the University of Pennsylvania in 1955. Yeah, he's a fool.
George Bush admits he was an average student. He got his BA in history. Bush became a member of the Skull and Bones society. He joined the Air National Guard in 1972 and in 1974 obtained permission to end his six year service. He got caught drinking and driving and did coke. He screwed up every business he got involved in. Bush is a great person to be leading the country.
Let's Compare Noam Chomsky to Bush.
Noam Chomsky is the Institute Professor Emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of technology. He created the theory of generative grammer. He received his Ph.D. in linguistics from the University of Pennsylvania in 1955. Yeah, he's a fool.
George Bush admits he was an average student. He got his BA in history. Bush became a member of the Skull and Bones society. He joined the Air National Guard in 1972 and in 1974 obtained permission to end his six year service. He got caught drinking and driving and did coke. He screwed up every business he got involved in. Bush is a great person to be leading the country.
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Great another Poll out of Quebec, like they'd fight for anything that wasn't in their self interest. Sorry didn't mean to use the word fight and Quebec in the same (gag me with a spoon) sentence. That Poll implied that Canada would use Conscription, hello the people they polled didn't even know what the GDM word meant. Canada doesn't need to conscript, never has never will outside of Weebec.
Note: Quebec and Ontario lost their special (drooling now) status peoples, BC and Alberta have now replaced Quebec and Ontario regarding population. Yee haw the west not only has a voice they can override the above. Use your power wisely BC and Alberta, remember your roots. As I click my cowboy boots together, remember the East Coast we are nice people and we like other provinces. Don't forget us like Quebec and Ontario has done in the past.
Note: Quebec and Ontario lost their special (drooling now) status peoples, BC and Alberta have now replaced Quebec and Ontario regarding population. Yee haw the west not only has a voice they can override the above. Use your power wisely BC and Alberta, remember your roots. As I click my cowboy boots together, remember the East Coast we are nice people and we like other provinces. Don't forget us like Quebec and Ontario has done in the past.
Sassylassie you have it wrong. BC and Alberta have not replaced Quebec and Ontario regarding population. Ontario has the biggest population in all of Canada. Combined, BC and Alberta have replaced Quebec. But you are right, the west is getting more of a voice.
Evidence please.
Polls are always misleading when they disagree with your policy.
In the meantime, most Canadians do not support the mission. Deal with it,
2 more Canadians killed in attack
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/10/03/nato-killed.html
Is it worth it? I'm sure they love that we wear red to support them. You want to support your troops? Demand that they are brought home. Wearing red on friday does nothing. It's meaningless. The real issue is do we support the mission. Canadians don't.
Casualties by year
2006 - 31, 1 diplomat
2005 - 1
2004 - 1
2003 - 2
2002 - 4
30 died in combat, 6 by friendly fire (Americans) and 4 accidental. What's different about 2006?
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/10/03/nato-killed.html
Is it worth it? I'm sure they love that we wear red to support them. You want to support your troops? Demand that they are brought home. Wearing red on friday does nothing. It's meaningless. The real issue is do we support the mission. Canadians don't.
Casualties by year
2006 - 31, 1 diplomat
2005 - 1
2004 - 1
2003 - 2
2002 - 4
30 died in combat, 6 by friendly fire (Americans) and 4 accidental. What's different about 2006?
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The problem with making informed decisions on world politics as a layman, is that if you actually understand what is going on within another country you're gullible, and if you actually understand what is going on in your own country then you are either more gullible still, or your nations intelligence services are so bone-headed you're already useless.
I would expect the US to lie to exaggerate Hussein's atrocities when justifying a war. I used that document to point out that even the US government knew Hussein wasn't busy killing thousands of Iraq's each year when they invaded. What the US government did was point out Hussein's atrocities out of context and without a time reference to create a misperception that Hussein was killing thousands of people each year. The post I responded to was by someone who had that misperception as do most people.
But if you want another source:
http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/Irq-summary-eng
Regarding supporting the troops...
Our soldiers go where they are ordered to go, whether that order makes sense or not, whether that order is in the best interest of Canada or not. It is possible to be against the mission in Afghanistan and still be supportive of the troops. Supporting the troops doesn't happen by giving a speech, wearing red or putting bumber stickers on your car.
Its done by doing something which actually supports them.
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Noam Chomsky is a fool and you sound like Hugo Chavez pawning off Chomsky's BS..
I absolutely agree.
Noam Chomsky is a fool and you sound like Hugo Chavez pawning off Chomsky's BS..
There are people who know what propganda is, recognize it when they see it and therefore are resistant to being manipulated by it.
Then there are people who think they are aware of propaganda, can't recognize it when they see it and are vulnerable to being manipulated.
For the most part, people who have read and understand Chomsky are in the first group.
If you find yourself agreeing with the opinions of the talking heads on the cable news.... then you are most likely in the second group.
The Verdict is In: TV News is Bad for Your Brain
[SIZE=+3]A[/SIZE] study has revealed that people who rely on television to get their news are more likely to be misinformed on the facts about Iraq, WMD's and Iraq's ties to 9/11 than those who get their news from other sources or even who don't follow the news at all.
The study polled over 3,000 people on their perceptions about international support for the Iraq War, ties of Saddam Hussein to the events of 9/11, and the Discovery of WMD's in Iraq. What they found, incredibly, though not surprising, was that the more people got their news from TV, the higher the frequency of their misperceptions
Out of all the news networks, of course, Fox News ranked highest among misinformed viewers. The lowest was PBS.
Bush's support tied to misperceptions
Another angle of the poll was to group by Bush supporters or Democratic candidate supporters. Naturally, the vast majority of the misinformed were Bush supporters. This included Democrats that supported Bush.
http://americanassembler.com/issues/media/
earth_as_one, I agree.
If you lived in a country like The Soviet Union it would of been easy to recognize propaganda. It's the Soviet Union so obviously they are lying. But in Canada and the US, which are free countries, you think you are getting un-bias news. That's why it's harder to recognize propaganda here.
If you lived in a country like The Soviet Union it would of been easy to recognize propaganda. It's the Soviet Union so obviously they are lying. But in Canada and the US, which are free countries, you think you are getting un-bias news. That's why it's harder to recognize propaganda here.
The propaganda has become pretty obvious here too. Some news sources even point it out:
A week or so later, the US launched an unprovoked attack on Iraq, which most Americans supported because their perceptions had been manipulated by propaganda which linked Iraq to 9/11 and created a misperception that Iraq was known to possess a WMD threat to its neighbors and the US. As a result more than 100,000 innocent men, women and children died.
Canadians are just as misinformed by propaganda as our southern neighbors. How many of us believe that our forces in Afghanistan are fighting an enemy which "detest our freedoms, they detest our society, they detest our liberties"?
That's just plain BS propaganda. If you want to know why 9/11 happened, just do a survey of Muslims and Arabs. Their problem with us is isn't what we do over here in our countries, but what we do over there, in their countries.
But most Canadians aren't aware of the root causes of anti-west sentiment. Instead we are fed blatant misinformation like this:
Canadians need to understand the difference between supporting our troops and supporting foreign policies which are not only doomed to fail, but increase anti-west hostility.
A week or so later, the US launched an unprovoked attack on Iraq, which most Americans supported because their perceptions had been manipulated by propaganda which linked Iraq to 9/11 and created a misperception that Iraq was known to possess a WMD threat to its neighbors and the US. As a result more than 100,000 innocent men, women and children died.
Canadians are just as misinformed by propaganda as our southern neighbors. How many of us believe that our forces in Afghanistan are fighting an enemy which "detest our freedoms, they detest our society, they detest our liberties"?
That's just plain BS propaganda. If you want to know why 9/11 happened, just do a survey of Muslims and Arabs. Their problem with us is isn't what we do over here in our countries, but what we do over there, in their countries.
But most Canadians aren't aware of the root causes of anti-west sentiment. Instead we are fed blatant misinformation like this:
Canadians need to understand the difference between supporting our troops and supporting foreign policies which are not only doomed to fail, but increase anti-west hostility.
All the banter means FA,
This is why I wear red on Fridays, no politics, no foriegn policy, no BS, just my sons and daughters laying it on th eline. period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4cXp9HMVc&mode=related&search=
I really hate this song, but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RQlaDeTpL4&NR
This is why I wear red on Fridays, no politics, no foriegn policy, no BS, just my sons and daughters laying it on th eline. period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4cXp9HMVc&mode=related&search=
I really hate this song, but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RQlaDeTpL4&NR
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Curiosity:.
Canada is an autonomous country and it is governed by the wishes of the people (isn't it?).-------------------
Love you Curiosity ,you're so funny.
Canada is an autonomous country and it is governed by the wishes of the people (isn't it?).-------------------
Love you Curiosity ,you're so funny.
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