That too.
Especially when you see posts that ignore the ferry range of the CF 18, and the advent of external tanks.
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Canadian jets scrambled......
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Especially when you see posts that ignore the ferry range of the CF 18, and the advent of external tanks.
I'd like to know both sides of the story. Is Canada sending aircraft flying near Russian airspace? If so, while that's still no excuse for the Russians to fly so near our airspace, it would also make us no better.
If however this is a one-way street, then I do think Canada should protest it clearly and encourage international condemnation of the act. But again, we'd better not be doing it ourselves or we'll look like hypocrites. Then again, if we are doing this too, that might explain Canada's silence on the world stage over this.
If however this is a one-way street, then I do think Canada should protest it clearly and encourage international condemnation of the act. But again, we'd better not be doing it ourselves or we'll look like hypocrites. Then again, if we are doing this too, that might explain Canada's silence on the world stage over this.
Putin likes to camp, he makes good fish soup, and he'll sit around a fire and play the guitar and sing old tunes on vodka. He'd pat Harper out like a tortilla before frying him.
I don't know what's sadder and/or weirder... that Harper would use a standard iteration of the Tupolev dance to get press, or that there'd be people out there to think it newsworthy.
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I hear ya there Omi, I couldn't agree more...
Or even worse, pathetic people who think it makes great political fodder.
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Yeah. Upgrades in a lot of areas would be good, but buying a fleet of F-35s for air-to-air and patrol is about as common-sensible as a fleet of luxury humvees for arctic ground patrol. Even if one were to stay top end (and if one were to be able to get around the US export restrictions on F-22s) it would make more sense to get a few F-22s than F-35s (F-22s vs F-35s for air-to-air is like half-tracks versus humvees for arctic ground patrol; they just make more sense given the circumstances if you want to spend that kind of money).
There are more rational ways to upgrade air-defense given the threat Russia et al actually pose, which is asymptotically as close to zero as it gets given the problems they have to deal with internally, plus, given the cost of the F-35s, we too have more pressing needs on the home front.
If you check the price to earnings ratio of Lockheed Martin, it looks like they might be having problems, so it's possible that the F-35 purchase is just some sort of insider old-boy's back-scratching maneuver to push LTM's market cap and/or dividends, which means if you have the spare cash it might not be a bad time to buy LTM.
Of course, the people *paying* for the F-35s are also likely to be the people without the spare cash to make an investment to at least get something back for the expenditure.
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Ummm...
I guess this means you agree with purchasing the F 35's now?
And before you try and wiggle out of hummvee, by posting a pic of some pretty truck...
That pic is a humvee...
this is not...
That's a Hummer. Two totally different animals in the world of military or utilitarian munitions/vehicles.
First off, time stamps betray you...
Nice try though.
And of course we could buy something else, and not support our own aerospce industry...
Good call.
Supedup half track...
Killer stuff...
That's a half track, the red thing is a Humvee with tracks.
You can keep modifying the post, I keep seeing it. Don't let that stop you though, it's funny as hell...
Okay, that second one's nice, and I'd like to see how it performs in the arctic.
Maybe they should have bought half as many F-35s and then spent some money on those so the guys doing ground-patrol could have the same classy ride as the guys in the air... except Kakato makes it sound as if machines like that would never survive the -70 winters, plus he implies that they'd tear the tundra to shreds and make mud-floods in the summer...
Hmm...
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Ya, I know, I'm on ignore (;-);-)) but...
Ya, there's no deserts in North America...Okay, that second one's nice, and I'd like to see how it performs, and if that pic was taken where I think it might have been taken, I'm not sure everyone would be happy to be seeing it posted around... just on principal, ya' know
Nice edit skippy, too late, I did that on purpose eh!...so much for that iggy function!!!
I can never figure out why, evidently, nobody will look at these guys for patrol craft.
Welcome To Scaled Composites
It was started by Burt Rutan, an aeronotical engineer and flight test project engineer, and a really neat guy!
If we got only half as many F-35s and used some of the remainder for upgrades to air patrol, I bet if we went to this guy with the performance objectives he could produce a wicked long-range air-patrol craft.
I wonder how well a small craft like that could stand up to the golden BB.
You can only put so much body armour on something, before the costs start getting restrictive.
I know, I know, I'm on ignore, so I won't get to hear all about how easy and cheap it would be.
You can only put so much body armour on something, before the costs start getting restrictive.
I know, I know, I'm on ignore, so I won't get to hear all about how easy and cheap it would be.
I suppose it would depend on what that golden B-B was. If you're speaking altitude and pressurized ... not well.
But patrol craft don't go very high... normally around 5000 feet, right? That shouldn't be much of a pressure issue, and being as it's patrol, the issue is more about flight range, right? This guy makes planes that can fly around the globe without refueling.
If you wanna talk high-altitude BB's... in the late 30's the Germans were supposed to have a rifle capable of shooting a sheet-metal piercing dart about 3/4 inch long and about as thick as a pencil-lead to altitudes of 40,000 feet. I wish I could remember what it was called...
Then the AK comes back in to play.
Then the craft you seem to support are pretty much sitting ducks against a limited armed force.
Kind of a waste of money.