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SleepinIn

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Yeah, I'm 100% shocked even tho if I could have voted I wouldn't have voted for her. I think she has an amazing voice, probably the purest voice of the remaining bunch. was all ready to celebrate Stefano or Jacob going, lol no points for me again..I think a lot of folk assumed she was safe.

Gwen's fashion .....dear god. Constantine.....he gets to perform? He was so awful. Iggy however was awesome sauce. Mind blown indeed - I think they bleeped half the performance...plus shirtless in your 6o's on the idol stage. That's rock.

Pia you are gone too soon.
 

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Oh, no, spoilers!! I didn't watch the whole thing yet!

People deserve to go if they're boring and they aren't reaching people!!! Come on. Even Jacob has more charisma on the stage than her. I don't hate her or anything. I don't think this girl was showing a lot of growth. You should seem to be getting better, every week, not worse. (I'm not saying she really was getting worse. It's that the longer she performed, the more her shortcomings became obvious.)

I never thought Stefano would go tonight - or, I hoped not, anyhow. Because he's shown growth. Jacob...I don't get it. I guess everybody in America wasn't ready to look in the mirror. :p

Yeah, I'm 100% shocked even tho if I could have voted I wouldn't have voted for her.

Pia you are gone too soon.

I was not a Pia fan and she bored me, but I never felt that she deserved to go this early.

How do you explain these contradictory feelings?

Okay, I just watched it - the judges' reaction. How can they do that to Stefano? It's similar to when Greg Neufeld was eliminated - I felt bad for Brian. If the judges say it's a mistake - then the implication is the person who's staying should have been the one eliminated.

Anyhow - I have a feeling the show will loosen up and get better, now. Why, I don't know. Maybe because her front runner status was making the remaining girls (and some of the guys - and maybe the audience) nervous and inhibited.
 
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missaddicted

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Well, they're not spoilers when the show has already aired! You have to stay away from here if you haven't watched the show!!!
 

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Don't worry - I wasn't upset. I was just shocked because I forgot I wasn't watching it live!! Ha.
 

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I'm not sure about the contradictory feelings... It's probably because on the whole, Pia is a very good singer. And she's a beautiful girl. I guess I thought that it was enough for her to have a decent-sized fanbase. I was disappointed with her, but not because I disliked her, I actually wanted to like her! I was always hoping that she would blow me away, maybe that's why I was so critical of her. So yeah, she never made me like her really, but I thought her voice was strong enough to carry her further. It's probably safe to say that she's a better singer (in terms of vocal ability, not in terms of performance, etc) than all the guys who are left. I know that Idol is more than just about the voice (and thankfully so!), but I still thought a strong voice like Pia's would be better recognized by the audience in general.
 

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Well! That was definitely a bit of a shock...

Of course here we all are saying how shocking it was to lose Pia but none of us would have voted for her....guess America agreed with us.

I will actually miss the powerful vocal but not her limp personality or stage un-presence.

I was hoping it was Stefano and was actully quite happy when Ryan made like it was Jacob so I suppose it didn't really matter to me which of the threee left in the end.
 

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Scotty will win to fulfill the KRISTY LEE COOK PROPHECY. Kris (Allen) (Scot)ty Lee (DeWyze) (David) Cook.

^Just read this on twitter.

I don't understand fanbases. To me, nobody should have an actual fanbase until they've been around a few years, not a few months.
But anyhow - I thought Casey had a big fanbase - and he got the lowest # of votes two weeks ago. What to make of any of this? I don't know.

I actually wanted to like her! I was always hoping that she would blow me away, maybe that's why I was so critical of her. So yeah, she never made me like her really, but I thought her voice was strong enough to carry her further.

I see what you mean. Thanks for explaining. I guess her voice could have carried her further.

I'm left to wonder how natural a singer she is. She seems to be well rehearsed to do her one number, get huge applause, and get off. Idol selects what to show us. But is she someone who can go out onstage and entertain, be relatively spontaneous, sing all night, hold an audience in her hand? I think she isn't, and that's okay, but the winner probably should be able to do that. She has raw talent, but I think that's all she's got at the moment. It's a lot, but it isn't enough. The show presented her well, but it seemed to me that they were presenting her, not that she was presenting herself. So she might as well go now as later.

Of course here we all are saying how shocking it was to lose Pia but none of us would have voted for her....guess America agreed with us.

Exactly. Plus, she wasn't getting the support on other boards, either, lately.
 
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missaddicted

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Scotty will win to fulfill the KRISTY LEE COOK PROPHECY. Kris (Allen) (Scot)ty Lee (DeWyze) (David) Cook.

^Just read this on twitter.

LMAO!! Of course, how could I have forgotten the prophecy!

But yeah, If I were the type to do so, I would put some good money on Scotty to win right now.
 

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I would be so bummed if Scotty won. I guess. I don't especially want anyone else to win, but he doesn't do a lot for me. I don't think he's anything like Jaydee. He's got a nice personality, he's just not (at his age, anyway) much of an entertainer - which Jaydee was, at 16 - though annoying, to me, which Scotty isn't. But I really need some creativity and excitement, musically, out of somebody.
 
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I would be so bummed if Scotty won. I guess. I don't especially want anyone else to win, but he doesn't do a lot for me. I don't think he's anything like Jaydee. He's got a nice personality, he's just not (at his age, anyway) much of an entertainer - which Jaydee was, at 16 - though annoying, to me, which Scotty isn't. But I really need some creativity and excitement, musically, out of somebody.
I gotta agree, I do not want the Country Kid to win either. Its gonna be a hard pick for me at this moment. The ones with good presence and personality are not the best vocalists and the ones with great pipes are pretty boring. I would have to root for Casy, James or Haley in no particualr order.

Gwen Stefani has no taste whatsoever. Seriously.

Her style may not be everyone's cup of tea but Gwen is smokin hot for 42!!! (insert drool here) I've always been a huge fan.;-)
 

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I gotta agree, I do not want the Country Kid to win either. Its gonna be a hard pick for me at this moment. The ones with good presence and personality are not the best vocalists and the ones with great pipes are pretty boring.

I know - it's funny how it worked out like that.

Her style may not be everyone's cup of tea but Gwen is smokin hot for 42!!! (insert drool here) I've always been a huge fan.

She's smokin indeed, but tbh I was more of a fan until she performed on the show a couple of years back. She sucked so bad! Looks, 10, performance, 3. Anyhow, she's amazingly hot for being 42 and I think a mother as well.

I don't get why these people - celebs - are suddenly around, but with the "official" mentors having gone by the boards, there has been a hasty insertion of some stars into the proceedings. Jimmy Iovine seemed to be relegated to the background a bit. The stars really seem like last-minute additions, to me. I have no idea why Ryan Tedder was brought in specifically for Stefano, though. I'm askin' the hard questions, here!! Think about it. Unless he wasn't, and I'm missing something (which wouldn't be unusual).
 

missaddicted

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I don't necessarily want Scotty to win either. I find him boring too. I still think he will win. I have no clue who I would want to see win.

Yeah, Gwen Stefani is hot. It's just that the way she dressed those girls was awful. Pia should have never worn that kind of pajama/pantsuit kit she had on and Lauren looked as though she was wearing diapers. Not super flattering. Hence my comment that she has no taste. Maybe she knows what she should wear, but she just shouldn't help others with fashion!

Part of the lyrics from The Last Goodbye, David's new single, in his own handwriting (nice handwriting for a guy!):

http://www.rcarecords.com/davidcook/LastGoodbyeChorus.JPG
 

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What I was trying to say is that if they asked Tedder to arrange Stefano's song, that might be a sign they favor Stefano (though he's been in the bottom a few times, so I'm not sure why they would). I don't know.

missaddicted, the person you like most, at the start, usually wins. That would have been Paul - or was it Casey?

Thanks for the song. Now I want to hear it!

As for Gwen, it seems to be the consensus that she didn't dress anyone well. I liked Pia's hair pulled back - or at least, I liked it off her face, and that was one alternative - though kind of unsexy.
 

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Of course here we all are saying how shocking it was to lose Pia but none of us would have voted for her....guess America agreed with us.

Ha! So true. She has a great voice no doubt about it, but ultimately there is more to a performer than the voice. There's personality, song choice, so many other factors. This could actually be the best thing for her. She didn't seem comfortable on tv, and maybe she needs more time to grow into her talents. And now people will remember her as the girl that was ROBBED. :crybaby: (but not really)

What I was trying to say is that if they asked Tedder to arrange Stefano's song, that might be a sign
they favor Stefano (though he's been in the bottom a few times, so I'm not sure why they would). I don't know.

I guess it depends on how much they like Ryan over the other producers they've had. :D They've had some other producers with massive hits not just Ryan. Although ultimately it didn't seem to help Stefano all that much.

Part of the lyrics from The Last Goodbye, David's new single, in his own handwriting (nice handwriting for a guy!):

A sign that the new record exists!! Does he have a release date for the single yet? It's been so long...

Right now for a winner I want Haley. But one bad performance and I could be convinced otherwise. (so fickle..)
 

missaddicted

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Does he have a release date for the single yet? It's been so long...

Yes!!! April 19! I didn't post it here? I thought I did, but maybe not. The song was actually co-written with Ryan Tedder. I can't say I'm super impressed with those lyrics though, they're kind of trite and unoriginal.

I think Casey was my first favorite. I don't think the guy who needed the save two weeks ago is going to win though. Unless he starts being brilliant every week. Well, as long as Jacob doesn't win, I guess I don't really care who wins.

ETA:

Hee! Yes I posted this last week:

WOOT! New Cook single to be released on April 19!!! The song is called The Last Goodbye and he co-wrote it with... Ryan Tedder.

Oh well, I'll be in the corner right there trying to adopt a "let's wait and see" attitude.
 

SleepinIn

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Hee! Yes I posted this last week:

Oops!! Guess I didn't remember that! Lol - It's coming out really soon then!

Wow.. just looked at the pool results. Only 1 person made 20 points last week. Everyone else was 7 and under.

This is interesting too. The all Internet chat post performance show. Not a lot of Pia love in there. Kinda predicted the end of the Pia actually.

Idol Inferno
 

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Well, they're not spoilers when the show has already aired! You have to stay away from here if you haven't watched the show!!!

Mmhmm, I've been lurking in this thread for a while, but I avoid it after the elimination show because I never watch it the night of.

So tonight we had our weekly Idol party and I got into a half-drunk argument with my friend over whether Pia deserved to be kicked out or not. Everyone agreed that Pia, despite having the best voice in the competition, is boring. My friend thought that that was enough to have her kicked off this week over Stefano, while I, on the other hand, have been campaigning for Stefano's ouster for weeks. Pia's boring but I would have liked to see her overcome that. She could have grown, and I think she will grow, but we won't be able to see that. I don't get the appeal of Stefano. Actually, that's not true.. I do get the appeal of Stefano but my girlfriends deny it. He's cute. He's Latin. Sings sappy love songs. What more can you ask for? That's why women and tweens, I assume the main demographic of the show, vote for him. But he's a horrible singer and phony even for Idol standards.

Of course, I'm always the black sheep in the crowd as I don't really like the kind of manufactured pop music on the show. My favourites have been Casey and Paul, but they need some work. Casey especially. Scotty is entertaining but not my cup of tea. I find James to be another phony whose chosen style (rock) isn't amicable to phonies. He's an entertaining singer though. One major disagreement this week was James' song. I hated it. I thought he absolutely butchered a beautiful song with his gratuitous wailing and suburban brat weeping. My girlfriends disagreed.


See! That's how you cover that song! And he even played the guitar while he sang it. That extra bit of authenticity that James doesn't have. I'm showing this to my girlfriends later :p

I like Haley too and especially liked her Janis Joplin, though it was a little restrained. That's my biggest problem with all the singers. They're too restrained. I never feel they get the songs they're singing. Except Jacob, who is too unrestrained with his voice. Jacob was actually good with Man in the Mirror. His over-emotional blubbery had become tiresome in the past few weeks and he changed it up. I liked how he didn't want to sing that other song because it was too dirty and then during the performance was pelvic thrusting the backup singer. He should be booted soon though in my opinion.

Pia should be upbeat. She probably had record labels banging on her door the next morning. Does American Idol have some kind of contract where they get first dibs on all contestants? I'd think they would. That girl has a future.

Anyway, Paul and Casey are more my style. But they'd be my second and third favourites if Emily Anne Reed hadn't been kicked out in like the second round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBCpqhRvbNI
 

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Welcome Corduroy! Keep posting. (Why do people think Stefano - and sometimes Pia - are Latino? They're Italian-American. js.)

They're too restrained. I never feel they get the songs they're singing

I don't know why there's a lot of that this season. It's like they picked people for other things than commitment to what they're singing. More for surface ability to perform, or else a voice. But that's not what it's really all about.

I also wonder if they're being coached too much. I don't feel much spontaneity.

I also wonder if some of them would feel more comfortable playing instruments, when that's been so limited? I know I harp on that a lot, but there's a lot more to it than meets the eye - some people, if you take that away, you inhibit them.
 

ross 1

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I said he was Latin, not Latino, by which I meant Italian. :wink:

Yeah, you did. I'm part Italian but I don't think I've ever heard an Italian referred to (or refer to himself) as a Latin. But that doesn't mean it's not true. Mostly, it's confusing. Like, "Latin pop" refers to pop that's usually in Spanish, by Latinos. Wikipedia says "Sometimes 'Latino' is used interchangeably with 'Latin', as Latino is also defined as a 'Latin inhabitant of the United States'." Here in the US somebody like Stefano would usually just be called "Italian." But I see what you're saying. Carry on. :)
 
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