Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol
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I'm so glad (glad, glad)! And I have to say again, he sounded good.
mj has some good vids from Charlotte. Anoop ('Noop! 'Noop!) got a nice welcome. I watched his performance of Always On My Mind, and he was feeling it. His purple high tops are awesome. He looks goofy but it's cool seeing him embracing his inner homeboy.
Kris, Bright Lights. The guitar solo section was great. That just gets better and better, and his interaction with the band does too.
I've noticed: on the tour, it seems like Kris does realistic movements, while some people around him (Adam, in DSB, and the guitar player in BL) do broader movements and/or facial expressions. Do you think Kris needs to be bigger, or move more, for the arena? Or do the huge screens take care of that? They say Cook moved more than Kris. But they're different types.
All These Things That I've Done (mj video) is great. This song gets better every time!
I loved this about Kris: NWAnews.com :: Northwest Arkansas' News Source
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Yeah it really does. I think Kris needs people (ie: band) to interact with onstage. For the most part - he is great by himself, but when he has that interaction it broadens the stage so to speak. The band seems so far back through his set or behind the curtain and Kris is a really generous performer it works better when there is give and take with the band (I actually think that about all of them).
I think Kris being comfortable with the material and the songs, will naturally bring about a greater degree of movement or interaction. I just think the AI tour is so scripted that they have marks they have to hit etc, etc. I really think it is more like a show than a concert - although maybe big concerts are the same.
Yeah that was a good one. I loved it.
I just noticed on IDF that you were mentioned as a Kris fan that posts on MJ's - your famous Ross
(and I knew you when... *sniff*) So people do listen to you when you post - you need to write a review Okay, what did they say, what did they say??? hahaha. No, seriously, what did they say? Ha.
Was it positive, anyway? Can you give me a link, IDF is not computer-friendly to me sometimes. I suppose they quoted the one thing I said that I regret saying. That's usually the way.
I don't post all that much on mj's (today is an exception because I'm posting about the videos). I end up getting into disputes very quickly because the people are so opinionated you can hardly stand it! I mean, I can't. Okay, I'm opinionated, too. ;-) But it has more to do with what missaddicted calls the "stupidities," over there.
Kris will be great with his own band around him!
Hey! We're both going to be going to concerts of his, some day, in the not too distant future (provided he plays Canada). Think about how awesome that will be -- and almost everyone in the audience will be a Kris fan. That's almost wierd. I'm so not used to it. (Unless he ends up opening for someone. Then it'll be more of the same. Only different. As they say.)
By the way, heard any more about his album? I almost think he contacted Joe King and Daughtry himself, I mean, without much prompting. I hope he's getting good support from Jive. I'm so glad he's on a different label from Adam, that just wouldn't work. This way each label busts their ass to promote their own guy. I guess. That picture of him with Daughtry had a producer in it, and folks are speculating it may be Kris's producer.
There was an especially good post on mj's about Kris today. It was just someone who talked about how great it was to hear him go out and do Falling Slowly after the "idol bombast" of years gone by.
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It was more a general comment. They were discussing MJ's comments and Adam's bra crazy fans and they listed you as fan of Kris that posts there. They seem to have the same issue you do regarding bra play by play though.
"I usually just skip over what they say and read the comments from Kris fans. Some of them from the top of my head are girlygirl, ross,vada, shariG, AC and cookcricket, sorry for the rest I miss out"
DULUTH, GA :: Kris Allen « idolforums.com
Totally agree.
Not much no. The guy is like a ninja, seriously. Zomba linked to his website, and Jive had that phone number up that you can call for updates, but that didn't have any real information on it. I'm cautiously optimistic about Jive right now. I think they are a better fit for Kris than RCA would be.
I called that phone number, myself. Have I gone over? Have I? Over the edge, I mean. Into the Mad World of Idol, where there are No Boundaries to one's obsession? Please don't answer. I only ever got into all this stuff in the first place because of Jacob. Damn you, Jacob! (Do you follow his tweets, by the way? Here's a funny thing. He has about 2000 to 2500 followers. Kalan has about 900. I would have thought these guys, especially Jacob, being in a successful band, would have more.) I have 17.
Anyhow, the way I discovered Jacob and CI was so completely random. I was just looking up an old movie I saw, a Hitchcock movie, I think it was "I Confess," on Google Images. And some pics popped up of CI2. They turned out to be from IDF. I think I can still find that. Hold on. Yup. Here it is. I think one of the posts must have contained the words "I confess." Yes! Just found it. It says:
i confess... i'm a Jalan fan.
(pictures taken from posts in Openly Clay Canadian Idol thread)
Jalan was of course the CI2 version of Kradam.
Well, okay, it was all so bizarre I had to do more Googling, and that's when I discovered there was a Canadian Idol, and that night at home ('cause I was at work when I found this) I looked at some CI2 YouTubes of Jacob and I was like: OMG this guy is amazing!! And I still think he's pretty amazing. The thing is, I think for the next six weeks or so I did nothing but catch up on any and all CI videos on the internet. Then I eventually read or skimmed all the CI2 posts on TWoP. So, Confessions Of An Idoltard. Part I: How I Got Hooked. I started on the recreational drugs [CI] and now I've progressed to the hard stuff [AI]...
This is insane.
And yeah, Kris is like a Ninja. A twentysomething mutant Ninja Arkansan. I didn't really answer your post. Sorry.
Anyhow, the way I discovered Jacob and CI was so completely random. I was just looking up an old movie I saw, a Hitchcock movie, I think it was "I Confess," on Google Images. And some pics popped up of CI2. They turned out to be from IDF. I think I can still find that. Hold on. Yup. Here it is. I think one of the posts must have contained the words "I confess." Yes! Just found it. It says:
i confess... i'm a Jalan fan.
(pictures taken from posts in Openly Clay Canadian Idol thread)
Jalan was of course the CI2 version of Kradam.
Well, okay, it was all so bizarre I had to do more Googling, and that's when I discovered there was a Canadian Idol, and that night at home ('cause I was at work when I found this) I looked at some CI2 YouTubes of Jacob and I was like: OMG this guy is amazing!! And I still think he's pretty amazing. The thing is, I think for the next six weeks or so I did nothing but catch up on any and all CI videos on the internet. Then I eventually read or skimmed all the CI2 posts on TWoP. So, Confessions Of An Idoltard. Part I: How I Got Hooked. I started on the recreational drugs [CI] and now I've progressed to the hard stuff [AI]...
This is insane.
And yeah, Kris is like a Ninja. A twentysomething mutant Ninja Arkansan. I didn't really answer your post. Sorry.
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I didn't call the number - cause I am not obsessed *snort* - no I downloaded the message, cause that's so much better. Yeah I have no room to talk obsessions.
Re: Twitter - maybe if their season of Idol had been this year? I just don't think anyone in Canada is aware that they are tweeting. lol. We're a celebrity phobic society for the most part -- unless you are from elsewhere then we can go nuts without restraint. How can you get excited about someone you see on the subway? lol - Plus they haven't been touring, but holed up in the studio so the promotional push is on hold really.
That's hilarious.
Too funny. I watched AI from the beginning, but the music choices... not really my thing. CI started and there was this guy called Billy Klippert -- who was my original fave since he went to the rock side, and I loved him for it. I still like Billy actually - although I never hear anything about him. The next year was just so good Jacob always commanded attention, he just has that star quality, but the others that season were good too. I really thought that as a group season 2 of Canadian Idol beat AI's group of top tens. Maybe only to be surpassed in my mind by this years American Idol's top 10. Maybe introducing the instruments so early in CI's run (at least for the group number) played a part in that feeling for me.
I know AI has always tried to stay more true to the singing contest aspect, but realistically contestants with more musical depth are going to do better in the long run - with me anyway.
Jacob really brought the sense of fun to the show too. He was nuts, and really talented and it was fun to watch.I lol'd at the italicized part. I was pretty surprised when I started following CI because after a while I discovered there was not this whole stalkerazzi mentality in Canada, this whole branch of the press or whatever, that makes a living covering celebrities. I mean, it exists, right? There's eTalk, and so forth. But on a much smaller scale, overall. I'm assuming.
I once suggested to a Canadian online friend who's a Kalan fan that it might be good for Kalan to be seen out on the town with some young ladies (good publicity for his career, keep him in the public eye). And my friend responded that he could go out with anybody he wanted but nobody was going to take his picture and if they did where would they publish it?
CI felt right to me, AI never did, it seemed plastic. I don't know if it was the contestants or the show, or what. The only reason I watched this year is because there was no CI. I really wasn't into the show much, at first, and to be honest, if it weren't for Kris, I don't know. He was a genuine person I could latch on to.
When Kara talked about him helping some of the others during MJ week, I thought he was different. I almost think, if I'm not giving him too much credit, here, that he was a quiet force on that show this year. Like, he kept it real. Maybe not single-handedly, but even Simon was sort of powerless against him. He's very positive and it's amazingly effective.
This AI group is more like a CI group, even the music is more like CI this year (almost).
I think Billy Klippert is good, I've seen him (on CI2, and also some YouTube stuff). He should be more well known. I also think Ryan is good. At least he seems to be making a living at music, and having some interesting experiences.
Jacob's unpredictable and nuts and I guess it makes him a great performer! And he always gives it everything he's got. When/if he stops doing it that way, I hope he quits. Also, he has a way with a song that's like Kris in that he's just himself and there's no screen between him and the audience when he sings. It's direct to the audience. I love that.
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It sort of exists, if there is an event like Much Music's VMA's then people would come and squee, but send the same musicians out on the street the next day and seriously, I don't think people would look twice unless it's Lady Gaga walking down the street with flaming boobs. Ben walking down the street.. no one would really care.. They might turn to him and say "Hey that's Ben, what are you doing here?" Then they'd probably cross the street and continue on with their day. And I can't imagine a Canadian tv star having a hard time with paparazzi anywhere in Canada. It's a weird thing. We do have the entertainment shows, but as for print magazines - I think the only one we really have is Hello Canada - which really likes to print pictures of celebrity houses more than people. Quebec is different though, they do have a star system, a magazines to match I think. Since our entertainment magazines are mostly American -- and they don't know about Canada *we're a secret* (shhhh!) - none of the Canadian stars really get the print coverage, and there are both good and bad things about that I guess.
Exactly right. There's just no outlet for it. Unless he dates Madonna he's out of luck.
Ha, me either. What happened to us? We were so sane. I didn't even watch the results shows.
I get that feeling too. He's just a gracious person, I mean it was his music that I loved, I wouldn't have followed so closely if I hadn't been into his music. I didn't really know all that much about him, even up to the finale. He just has a presence that is calm and when Adam said that Kris centered him, I knew exactly what he was talking about. It was just such a surprise to find out that he was hilarious too. There is just something about Kris. Michael Sarver said something about that too in that article from Arkansas
"He's genuine. He's true to who he is. He's true to his friends. Honest to God, he won this show, which means he did better than every single one of us on this tour. And you'd never know it by the way he treats us and interacts with us. We have a blast. He's an incredible human being. And there's nobody anywhere more deserving than Kris Allen and what he got out of this competition.
For me too, and maybe even the rapport between the singers.
That's a great way to put it. They are similar in that - they both just lose themselves to the music. I guess that's what we like about both of them so much
oh and if you go here
http://qik.com/video/2392582
you can hear some of the concert stream from tonight - Kris sounded fantastic.
(in a cellcast sound rating
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I'm listening to the live stream (recording) while writing this. First, you know what? I never get even slightly tired of hearing Heartless. Not only does he do it great, not only is his voice fantastic, but it is a great song. I liked it the first time I heard Kanye doing it, on the radio. It's a classic. Or, it will be if the world gets to hear this version of it. How can we make sure Kris releases this as a single? Other than cross our fingers, I mean.
I've gone through two songs on the feed and now I'm on ANS -- Kris is fantastic.
The person recording it apparently left at this point to go out to the barricades (I think that's what I read on mj). I hear the other girl saying, "You ready?" a few times. Then it goes black. Thanks for the link! I like to hear the concert without it being broken up into separate videos.
Yeah, that was just an amazing thing to say. (I also liked what Anoop said, which was similar in some things.) "An incredible human being." That's not exactly something you hear every day. The three guys seemed more than willing to say great things about him. And Allison, who said he's hilarious, that was actually pretty cool, too. I wish we could see some of that (humor) onstage. But I think in time we will.
Not to get negative, but considering Kris is so cool, by all accounts, why do you think he inspires such negative responses, even anger and hate, sometimes? Just extreme sour grapes from Adam fans? Or is it that people feel threatened by someone like him? Some people do feel threatened by genuine, sincere people. It's weird.
Question: why do you think Adam isn't coming out before the shows to meet the fans? I don't believe it's to "save his voice." I don't think it's a problem with a fan or fans, or else he wouldn't come out after the show either.
Have you ever seen any of this Hedley-singing-on-the-bus stuff? Two Hand Grenades and one Never Too Late:
YouTube - Up close and personal with Hedley in Montreal.
YouTube - hedley tour bus - hand grenade
YouTube - hedley tour bus - never too late
I've gone through two songs on the feed and now I'm on ANS -- Kris is fantastic.
The person recording it apparently left at this point to go out to the barricades (I think that's what I read on mj). I hear the other girl saying, "You ready?" a few times. Then it goes black. Thanks for the link! I like to hear the concert without it being broken up into separate videos.
Yeah, that was just an amazing thing to say. (I also liked what Anoop said, which was similar in some things.) "An incredible human being." That's not exactly something you hear every day. The three guys seemed more than willing to say great things about him. And Allison, who said he's hilarious, that was actually pretty cool, too. I wish we could see some of that (humor) onstage. But I think in time we will.
Not to get negative, but considering Kris is so cool, by all accounts, why do you think he inspires such negative responses, even anger and hate, sometimes? Just extreme sour grapes from Adam fans? Or is it that people feel threatened by someone like him? Some people do feel threatened by genuine, sincere people. It's weird.
Question: why do you think Adam isn't coming out before the shows to meet the fans? I don't believe it's to "save his voice." I don't think it's a problem with a fan or fans, or else he wouldn't come out after the show either.
Have you ever seen any of this Hedley-singing-on-the-bus stuff? Two Hand Grenades and one Never Too Late:
YouTube - Up close and personal with Hedley in Montreal.
YouTube - hedley tour bus - hand grenade
YouTube - hedley tour bus - never too late
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I think positivity is threatening to some people, but really I think it's mostly sour grapes. I think that if Adam had won some of the people who are having such a hard time with Kris wouldn't have any problem with him at all. But, then there would be more animosity towards Adam from Kris fans. It's a human nature thing. Sour grapes might be the wrong word for it it's the feeling that "why won't you see what I see???" "How can you not know how great Adam/Kris is?" It would happen either way I think. The majority of people aren't like that but there is a certain segment that get's defensive or protective about their faves. Like - I won't like Kris so people will know how much I like Adam.
It might be about saving his voice, but it might also be an energy thing. Adam's fans are very energetic, I'd find it emotionally draining (all that yelling and screaming - lol) and it would be easier to deal with after performing rather than before. It might also be about the rumoured stalker, they might be limiting access to him if that's the case.
No - I hadn't seen the bus videos with Hedley - They're great.
Thanks
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Okay, thanks for answering!
I'm not totally sure it would happen either way. Adam was a Chosen One, so he was set up as a possible winner from day one. Too many of Adam's fans were certain that he would win. When Kris won, it was like the rug was pulled out from under them. Kris's fans probably would have been more accepting, if he came in second.
KInd of resigned. Not happy, but not incensed, either. Since we were never even expecting he'd be coming in second.
Ha! I get it! Good point.
As for Adam not coming out in the afternoon, it could be that he's a vampire and he can't stand the daylight. No? Okay.
I'm not totally sure it would happen either way. Adam was a Chosen One, so he was set up as a possible winner from day one. Too many of Adam's fans were certain that he would win. When Kris won, it was like the rug was pulled out from under them. Kris's fans probably would have been more accepting, if he came in second.
KInd of resigned. Not happy, but not incensed, either. Since we were never even expecting he'd be coming in second.
Ha! I get it! Good point.
As for Adam not coming out in the afternoon, it could be that he's a vampire and he can't stand the daylight. No? Okay.
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*snort*
Interview with Katy in Arkansas Life Magazine. Seriously - those two are the cutest thing ever. But, not in a cloying way. They're both very down to earth - but seriously. Like cute overload.
Arkansas Life - Digital Edition
random twitter thing.
Kris's name keeps popping up in connection with Mat Kearney and the Frothy Monkey. No idea what that means.. Listening to Mat Kearney on youtube
YouTube - Mat Kearney - Closer To Love (Single)
Seems like someone who would be somewhat similar in style to Kris...? What do you think? rumours, rumours... lol. I'd be interested in seeing what they would write together if that's why they are meeting.. if they are in fact meeting and it's not a Frothy Monkey conspiracy.
Kris's name keeps popping up in connection with Mat Kearney and the Frothy Monkey. No idea what that means.. Listening to Mat Kearney on youtube
YouTube - Mat Kearney - Closer To Love (Single)
Seems like someone who would be somewhat similar in style to Kris...? What do you think? rumours, rumours... lol. I'd be interested in seeing what they would write together if that's why they are meeting.. if they are in fact meeting and it's not a Frothy Monkey conspiracy.
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I guess I'm stoopid but I couldn't figure out how to open that Katy article. How did you do it?
That song was really good! I'm only slightly familiar with him. Like, not at all, really. I hope Kris is working with him.
Frothy Monkey? Googled it, it's a coffeehouse in Louisiana, with another one in Nashville, TN.
Adam: I don't know about stalkers or weird fans, anyway it seems he hasn't been in great voice, or at least has had vocal issues, or whatever. Read this in the comments on mj's blog.
That song was really good! I'm only slightly familiar with him. Like, not at all, really. I hope Kris is working with him.
Frothy Monkey? Googled it, it's a coffeehouse in Louisiana, with another one in Nashville, TN.
Adam: I don't know about stalkers or weird fans, anyway it seems he hasn't been in great voice, or at least has had vocal issues, or whatever. Read this in the comments on mj's blog.
Click on the arrow at the top of the upper right hand side of the page. Katy's article is on page 22. She seems like such an interesting person in her own right.
I'm interested in the Mat Kearney angle. Whether it's writing with or touring with.. it intrigues me.
Thanks -- good article. Nice pictures of Katy. Strangely enough, I know what the friend meant about wanting to hate her but you can't. Maybe it's that determined thing. But then after you listen to her talk a while, she's so nice and sweet and regular.
I follow this site on twitter but never actually looked at it before. There was a link to this on twitter and I haven't finished reading it yet, but thought you might like to look at it too, SleepinIn.
Kris Allen: A Reason To Smile.
I follow this site on twitter but never actually looked at it before. There was a link to this on twitter and I haven't finished reading it yet, but thought you might like to look at it too, SleepinIn.
Kris Allen: A Reason To Smile.
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Did you see the Bright Lights guitar solo from Greenboro?
http://www.myfox8.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=473565ec-1717-434a-a1ec-7981820de550&src=front
They chopped a bit of the song out (grr) but the end makes up for it.
http://www.myfox8.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=473565ec-1717-434a-a1ec-7981820de550&src=front
They chopped a bit of the song out (grr) but the end makes up for it.
Have you seen this version of Bright Lights? Too bad there's a cut in the middle of it, but the guitar solo is awesome.