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I think those colours are definitely more guy friendly - which is good - plus the design is way cool.
Those silver pants.. but seriously they are everywhere with that song. It was on Being Erica too. I need a new song on the radio -- something not sung by Train, Rhianna, Katy Perry or Lady Gaga.
NIce pictures from Miami.. lol - the cheerleaders
I don't listen to the radio much any more.
Little Pawns is now legit:
?American Idol:? Kris Allen has new official street team called ?Little Pawns? - National Kris Allen | Examiner.com
Little Pawns is now legit:
?American Idol:? Kris Allen has new official street team called ?Little Pawns? - National Kris Allen | Examiner.com
Good for Little Pawns. 
They really do a lot of promotion for Kris. I'm not a street team type person but it's good for him to have them.
I saw the letter, and yes they do have some really valid points, but I don't agree with all of it either, I think Jive has done some really great things for Kris too. So basically it's like any other major label. lol
Interesting..
Barry Weiss from RCA/Jive is moving to Universal..
They really do a lot of promotion for Kris. I'm not a street team type person but it's good for him to have them.I saw the letter, and yes they do have some really valid points, but I don't agree with all of it either, I think Jive has done some really great things for Kris too. So basically it's like any other major label. lol
Interesting..
Barry Weiss from RCA/Jive is moving to Universal..
I liked what Kris said to Bill "Santa Rosa Democrat" Pinella about how he has never turned down a concert/performance offer yet. (When Bill asked him how playing the place in SR with a capacity of 250 - something Bill can't seem to get over - compares to playing Golden Gate Park this summer to 20,000.)
This is something the girls who wrote that letter to Jive should understand. They seem bogged down in what people talk about online. Kris is working hard, happy, and making a lot of money, too. And here is Jacob, who can play arenas in Canada, playing that same venue, and opening for Kris. Are Jacob's fans upset? I don't think those kids really understand it's not all roses. I know that's not exactly what they were criticizing, but I think they're being reactive, especially reactive to the online fans of Adam - rather than trying to see the big picture. Kris not only will not always sell out, he won't even care - actually, it's all exposure, it's dues-paying, it's experience, and if he wants to make it, he's damn good and he'll make it, so don't worry about all the details. Overnight careers are very rare (and they very rarely last).
Anyway, people don't seem to really understand that venues are responsible for publicity also. Do they think all the acts who play at Nightclub X have a lot of record label people involved in publicizing that one small appearance? I doubt it.
I also think they may have been blaming Jive for some things that are more management-related.
Some of their points - especially about Alright With Me - I totally agree with. I agree with a lot of what they say about marketing. I agree it seems Jive doesn't know how marketable Kris is, which is really odd. We've said it here before. This is not a hard guy to push. They do push, yet they don't.
I also wonder if the suits ever attend concerts and see for themselves. I know they do when they're interested in signing bands, but do they get involved in checking out the progress of the artists? I don't know.
I followed Hedley pretty closely for a few years and one thing I thought is that their label had faith in them - the faith to gamble money and effort on them. I don't really see this kind of excitement happening with Jive and Kris, for a number of reasons. If Kris were just a new artist they discovered and not an Idol winner it would be different, I suppose.
Wow, I sure rambled incoherently that time.
This! I don't want an overnight career for Kris. As great a tool Idol is for exposure, it's only a stepping stone. Their careers have to be built stone by stone, club by club, show by show. Even Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson had to prove themselves. Kelly especially being the first Idol person in the US. I know they had sales but it took a few years to build their careers to where they are now. And the record business was different when they released their albums, Kelly didn't have to record an album while on tour with Idol. There are so many different factors.
You want a solid base underneath you, and I think Kris is building that.
Yeah, I agree. I don't know that they really understood Kris coming off of Idol.
They're marketing Crystal to AAA which is interesting. I think it's a good fit for her musically but it might be a tough sell getting them to play her. Hope they do though, she could do well there if they play her. I'd like to see Kris marketed there too actually.. but those AAA stations are a hard sell. Tough nut to crack.
If I had access to a AAA station here, that's probably what I'd listen to, but in addition to being a hard sell, the AAA stations don't get the same audience as CHR or HAC stations. I saw numbers on twitter today. Songs on CHR can be spun 12,000 a week (on all the stations), on HAC, it's 4,000. On AAA, it's 400. So, the songs played there don't get the same recognition as songs played on more popular formats. So, yeah, I'd listen to AAA stations, but it's not the good place for a song to become a massive hit. Not that I necessarily believe that Crystal would have the potential to have a massive hit. Anyway, I'm talking in circles now, but what I want to say is I hope the AAA format gives her song a chance, but I don't believe if they play it that means the song will necessarily become a hit.
As expected, Jive is screwing Crystal. Why don't they release her single before the album drops? And it will go for adds in AAA format only in January? She is being "Taylor Hicksed" :-( .
What is AAA, other than the Automobile Association of America? Thx in adv.
Have you guys seen this (LJ Kris appreciation post, catch-up.)? I never saw that video in the apartment before. thesecrumbs: KRIS ALLEN CATCH UP POST
Have you guys seen this (LJ Kris appreciation post, catch-up.)? I never saw that video in the apartment before. thesecrumbs: KRIS ALLEN CATCH UP POST
AAA is for Adult Album Alternative. From wikipedia:
"The radio format has a broader, more diverse playlist than most other formats and tends to appeal more to adults than to teenagers. Less-played tracks are also common. Musical selection tends to be on the fringe of mainstream pop and rock as well as many other music genres such as indie rock, alternative rock, alternative country, jazz, folk, world music and blues.The musical selections tend to shy away from hard rock and rap music. Some Triple-A stations bill themselves under slogans such as "World Class Rock", "Quality Rock," or "Finest Rock". Music selection also includes tracks from albums that are not singles, which leads to the enhanced and larger playlist."
"The radio format has a broader, more diverse playlist than most other formats and tends to appeal more to adults than to teenagers. Less-played tracks are also common. Musical selection tends to be on the fringe of mainstream pop and rock as well as many other music genres such as indie rock, alternative rock, alternative country, jazz, folk, world music and blues.The musical selections tend to shy away from hard rock and rap music. Some Triple-A stations bill themselves under slogans such as "World Class Rock", "Quality Rock," or "Finest Rock". Music selection also includes tracks from albums that are not singles, which leads to the enhanced and larger playlist."
I really like the AAA format, I just wish they were a little more welcoming to music from Idol singers. If they play Crystal's music - which they just might - it could be a good thing for her.
THIS! THIS! THIS! Jive killed me with Kris by waiting to release his singles, and videos.. ARGH!
Broadway.com | Photo 8 of 12 | American Idol Winner Kris Allen Takes In the Rocking World of American Idiot
The American Idiot folk took a lot of photos, eh? Seems like they were there for ages taking pictures.
Also drunk Kris singing ANS is funny as all hell.
Kris Allen - Young Hollywood
Weird dancing, nipple clamping.. LOL
Thanks for the definition! We have a couple of those stations on Boston. One is run by Emerson College and I think they switch the format at night to something else. But yeah.
I didn't really find Kris all that funny but I thought he sounded fiiine. Nizzle, eh.. I find his voice annoying. He seems nice enough. Thanks for the American Idiot link - I was looking for those pictures. "Beautiful" sounds good. Jacob sounds good (except for the gasping). Do you like the song?
Why does Kris keep saying "It's not a music video?" I guess he means not official? Because it's a music video. A really good one.
Various industry people pick the year's Top 5 songs. Only one had the good taste to include LLWD. lol. I see Jive ignored Kris again! When you think that some of these songs/artists are the picks of the top dogs at the labels, it's clear why pop music sucks.
Top 40 Mainstream Year-End Hot Picks | Top Mainstream Pop Songs for 2010 | ...
I like what Lee had to say here! First time I ever especially cared one way or the other about anything he had to say.
Lee DeWyze bristles over Idol ruling on instruments – Idol Chatter - The Press Democrat - Santa Rosa, CA - Archive
My point about the AWM video is that he could have people checking it out (and buying the song) with just a few flattering words about it. Instead, it's: "We just made it for the fans...it's not really a video...it's just clips thrown together... (Don't even bother watching it...it's less than nothing...you probably won't even like it...I'm sure you have better things to do with your time...)
Omaha Nebraska station and San Jose station (maybe more - I haven't checked the whole list) also picked LLWD as one of the Top 5:
Hot/Modern/AC Year-End Hot Picks | Top 5 Hot/Mod/AC Songs Of 2010 | AllAccess.com
Santa Rosa station picked Alright With Me! as one of the Top 5 of the year. (They must be playing it prior to Kris doing their Christmas show.) Cool.
I didn't really find Kris all that funny but I thought he sounded fiiine. Nizzle, eh.. I find his voice annoying. He seems nice enough. Thanks for the American Idiot link - I was looking for those pictures. "Beautiful" sounds good. Jacob sounds good (except for the gasping). Do you like the song?
Why does Kris keep saying "It's not a music video?" I guess he means not official? Because it's a music video. A really good one.
Various industry people pick the year's Top 5 songs. Only one had the good taste to include LLWD. lol. I see Jive ignored Kris again! When you think that some of these songs/artists are the picks of the top dogs at the labels, it's clear why pop music sucks.
Top 40 Mainstream Year-End Hot Picks | Top Mainstream Pop Songs for 2010 | ...
I like what Lee had to say here! First time I ever especially cared one way or the other about anything he had to say.
Lee DeWyze bristles over Idol ruling on instruments – Idol Chatter - The Press Democrat - Santa Rosa, CA - Archive
My point about the AWM video is that he could have people checking it out (and buying the song) with just a few flattering words about it. Instead, it's: "We just made it for the fans...it's not really a video...it's just clips thrown together... (Don't even bother watching it...it's less than nothing...you probably won't even like it...I'm sure you have better things to do with your time...)
Omaha Nebraska station and San Jose station (maybe more - I haven't checked the whole list) also picked LLWD as one of the Top 5:
Hot/Modern/AC Year-End Hot Picks | Top 5 Hot/Mod/AC Songs Of 2010 | AllAccess.com
Santa Rosa station picked Alright With Me! as one of the Top 5 of the year. (They must be playing it prior to Kris doing their Christmas show.) Cool.
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I love that song. Actually, that's the type of song of theirs I like the best. The gasping does bug though, now that you've pointed it out to me. Thanks for that - LOL
I think Kris is pretty literal at times. Remember him trying to dodge the who are you writing with question? I say just go with it, call it the video and be done with it. Promote the hell out of it, people would accept what he says.
It's the unofficial Official video. Kris - you (um, Lizzie probably) posted it. We've made it official. Now just point it out to people. Sell it. Only 1 on POP format, but four picked him as top 5 on HAC.. including Jive.. And go Santa Rosa with the AWM love. Whoot!!!
I feel I have to comment on the fact that, considering it's nominated for a Grammy, WWFM is not on those Top 5 lists as much as one would think. For a Grammy nominated performance. That happens to have been nominated for a Grammy. (I was just looking at the Jingle Ball thread on MJ's. Some of his fans can't refer to him without the "Grammy nominated" prefix. "2011 Gammy Nominee Adam Lambert..." Tres lulzy.)
Oh, yeah, you're totally right. He seem to downplay that video in interviews. People ask him about it and are excited about it - basically, everyone was excited about it, originally - the say they love it - and he's all, "It's just something we threw together for the fans. We were just goofing around." That probably wouldn't make you want to see it. It like he doesn't really want people to take it too seriously. He doesn't seem especially thrilled when people compliment it. I confess I'm baffled.
Oh, yeah, you're totally right. He seem to downplay that video in interviews. People ask him about it and are excited about it - basically, everyone was excited about it, originally - the say they love it - and he's all, "It's just something we threw together for the fans. We were just goofing around." That probably wouldn't make you want to see it. It like he doesn't really want people to take it too seriously. He doesn't seem especially thrilled when people compliment it. I confess I'm baffled.
No, he isn't, but in this case I think he doesn't think the video is as good as it is. Because he and his friends made it instead of some pros. I think he just thinks it's minor. Not like a "real" video. You know, with an orb. I get the impression he's slightly embarassed. He's too close to it, as we say in theatre.
Anyhow, he never brings it up, does he? It seems he just answers when it's brought up to him.
Well, you got me, that time. I don't know how to answer that rationalization. lol. I just assumed, you know, they didn't think it was one of the Top 5 songs of the year, not that they have short memories.
Silly me! ETA: Best tweet of the night was from a guy who said, "Wow, I didn't know Kris Allen was an American Idol winner." This reminds me of the old, "Jacob was on Canadian Idol?" comments, under videos. Basically means Kris is becoming known, without being known for having been on Idol. And that is nice.
I'm going to post the AWM video on twitter again. You have inspired me. Hope you enjoy it. lol
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Billboard has issued its 2010 Year-End Charts. Here are some main charts and Idol alums chart positions.
Top Artists
23. Carrie Underwood
27. Adam Lambert
51. Daughtry
57. Kris Allen
90. Kelly Clarkson
Hot 100 Artists
31. Adam Lambert
36. Carrie Underwood
48. Kris Allen
65. Kelly Clarkson
Top Billboard 200 Artists
12. Carrie Underwood
31. Adam Lambert
41. Daughtry
91. Fantasia
97. Kris Allen
Canadian Hot 100 Artists
Adam is the only American Idol alum who appears in top100.
1. Ke$ha
2. Lady Gaga
3. Katy Perry
4. The Black Eyed Pears
5. Taio Cruz
6. Rihanna
7. Jason Derulo
8. Eminem
9. Adam Lambert
10. Hedley
Top Artists
23. Carrie Underwood
27. Adam Lambert
51. Daughtry
57. Kris Allen
90. Kelly Clarkson
Hot 100 Artists
31. Adam Lambert
36. Carrie Underwood
48. Kris Allen
65. Kelly Clarkson
Top Billboard 200 Artists
12. Carrie Underwood
31. Adam Lambert
41. Daughtry
91. Fantasia
97. Kris Allen
Canadian Hot 100 Artists
Adam is the only American Idol alum who appears in top100.
1. Ke$ha
2. Lady Gaga
3. Katy Perry
4. The Black Eyed Pears
5. Taio Cruz
6. Rihanna
7. Jason Derulo
8. Eminem
9. Adam Lambert
10. Hedley
Aside from Hedley (because I know you guys are fans!), this list is really really depressing me...