Canadian forces Recruiting 'Center'?

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If it was part of the company's name, and was spelled the other way, yes.

But other than that, I take them as interchangable. Although I would expect that our gov't would take as much effort to pick the right spelling of words as they take to ensure that everything is bilingual.

In this particular case, I doubt that I would have noticed.
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You just don't get it, huh? There's no error in the sign. "Center" is as perfectly valid as "centre" so you might as well get used to it. And "center" is not just US spelling.

From Oz:Ball State University - Australia Center

From Singapore:
National Research Foundation - Singapore Center on Environmental Life Sciences Engineering

From Japan:
Japan Center for International Exchange
 

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Agreed, according to the Canadian College Dictionary apparently.

It's one of those words that is gradually evolving.

Thankfully tyre and kerb evolved sooner.

All parts of the Federal Gov't, in power or vying for it, use the incorrect spelling "centered". While the correct spelling is "centred".

Mach and Prax have a long road ahead of them on their campaign to correct this terrible injustice...
 
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Agreed, according to the Canadian College Dictionary apparently.

It's one of those words that is gradually evolving.

Thankfully tyre and kerb evolved sooner.

'Tyre' is a misspelling in standard Canadian English, but acceptable in British and Indian English.

Again, it depends on the country, and each country has its own standards.In Australia, 'labor' is the correct spelling alongside 'colour'. 'Labour' and 'color' would both be misspellings in standard Australian English.
 

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'Tyre' is a misspelling in standard Canadian English, but acceptable in British and Indian English.
Are you starting to catch on to the evolution of our lexicon?

Again, it depends on the country, and each country has its own standards.In Australia, 'labor' is the correct spelling alongside 'colour'. 'Labour' and 'color' would both be misspellings in standard Australian English.
According to my sons, and the Funk and Wagnall Canadian College Dictionary, both spellings are accepted in Canada.

I think this argument is beginning to peter out for those that look for issues to whine about.
 

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Oh My Gawd! Somewhere along the way someone made a typo! Question ... if you were in an ambulance screaming to the hopital, would you kick up a fuss because the sign said ER?
 

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Once again completely missing the point and trolling....
:roll: Oh, go troll up your hoop.
I don't care what your point is. Machjo said there was a spelling error and there isn't and that is the point.
my point was that his own example of noticing this issue as an average joe going by the sign is just one example among many more people who notice these things..... you probably wouldn't..... many others do.
I probably would notice. :) As I said earlier, it would be inconsistent with the way Canucks USUALLY spell "centre". BUT, people put all kinds of twists on words in signs. Around here, there's a little outfit that calls itself Tastee Freez and it is a Dairy Queen competitor. Safeway? That should be Safe Way. Overwaitea? That should have been Over Weight Tea because the very first store got an overweight shipment of tea. IOW, it's ludicrous to make such an immense issue out of something as trivial as a mistaken POV.

I never said it was his job, get a clue.
aaawww Upset that I was making fun of what you said? Sorry. But it did look an awful lot like a exaggeration of brobdingnagian proportions.



Ah.... Honor and Loyalty....

TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!!!! WE BE CANADIAN KLINGONS!!!! YAAARRRRRR!!! :roll:

It has nothing to do with my Canadian Identity, it's part of my damn job, which you clearly haven't figured out yet even though it's been explained to you countless times already.
lol Wrong. I got that the first time. I was trolling. lol

I explain to you exactly what my position is on the subject, I explain to you the differences between the two forms of spelling and why they are the way they are, I even explained to you why the sign is incorrect as someone who does this sh*t as a part of his everyday job.... I even prove you wrong in regards to your Oxford Dictionary reference...... and then suddenly you try and troll it around as being about Canadian Identity and lack of Honor and Loyalty or something stupid? :roll:
You didn't prove dickshyte. Again, I was making fun of what you said because it was gross exaggeration: the same style of comment SJP would use.

Get over yourself princess.
roflmao I'm not the one pompously proclaiming, "I work at this so I should know".
 

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Oh My Gawd! Somewhere along the way someone made a typo! Question ... if you were in an ambulance screaming to the hopital, would you kick up a fuss because the sign said ER?
Nope, which of course is my point!

I'm glad I'm not alone Lone, lol.

roflmao I'm not the one pompously proclaiming, "I work at this so I should know".
Well put!!!
 

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Of course there are the odd clients out there who don't give a rat's ass what their advertising looks like.... and for them, they usually don't realize exactly how much business they really lose over something as trivial as spelling, because they're not educated in picking up on those things...... the designer is.... or at least supposed to be.

Like it or not, there are "Anal Dicks" out there who will base their decisions on seeking your business over such things as misspellings and how your advertisements (signs, flyers, vehicle graphics, etc.) are laid out and/or designed..... and it is no different then going out there with a resume that's completely disorganized and has spelling mistakes all throughout it.

If I see a crappy resume, I'm not going to consider that person for a job..... just as if I see a business with shoddy advertisements, I'm not going to waste my money or time on them.

I'm sure you will respond that your company gets plenty of business and makes plenty of money..... yet with a few of these "Anal Dick" modifications and correcting as many mistakes as possible (no matter how minor) you might be surprised at how much more you could be getting.

Then again, you as the business owner do have the final say and can choose whatever you want for your company..... but it's the customers who choose who they spend their money on and many of those customers do base their judgments on silly things like your logo, if your commercials are annoying, if they can read your vehicle graphics easily as your vehicle drives by, etc.

Oh and if you properly checked the proof supplied prior to it being produced, in regards to the vehicle graphics mentioned in your above quote, there wouldn't be any correction needed in the first place..... which is why proofs exist in the first place..... if the company you are getting signage from doesn't supply proofs before making your signage, then that's an even better example that they're amateur as all hell.

You do..... many others do not..... and that company's "quality" should be reflected in their advertising.

Life's too short to spend two damn seconds in making sure your work that you're getting paid to do is spelled properly?

If life is that too short, then why are you wasting your life posting in here? :roll:

Good post. If you consider that some people actually boycott imports and engage in all kinds of 'buy-Canadian' campaigns (I'm not one of them myself as many of you have likely figured out from my posts on free trade in the past), then those same people are likely to react to the spelling of 'center' at a recruiting centre, especially seeing that those who would apply are likely to be more nationalistic than the rest by definition. For for the Canadian Forces' demographic, it's likely to be quite a significant impact.

Now if a person gave me a resume all written in perfect US English, or British English, or Canadian English, or Australian English, etc. I'd have no issue with it. But if that person's resume is a mishmash of Englishes, then clearly he doesn't pay attention to detail in his resume, and so is likely not to pay attention to detail in his work either. Then again, his using the official spelling norms of the company he's applying for on his resume would also show that he's done his homework, thus showing he's a meticulous worker who will likely treat clients the same way. If he's so nonchalant about his spelling on a resume, then how much more so elsewhere.
 

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Good post. If you consider that some people actually boycott imports and engage in all kinds of 'buy-Canadian' campaigns (I'm not one of them myself as many of you have likely figured out from my posts on free trade in the past), then those same people are likely to react to the spelling of 'center' at a recruiting centre, especially seeing that those who would apply are likely to be more nationalistic than the rest by definition. For for the Canadian Forces' demographic, it's likely to be quite a significant impact.
I think you're making some pretty broad and sweeping generalizations there.

Now if a person gave me a resume all written in perfect US English, or British English, or Canadian English, or Australian English, etc. I'd have no issue with it. But if that person's resume is a mishmash of Englishes, then clearly he doesn't pay attention to detail in his resume, and so is likely not to pay attention to detail in his work either.

Then again, his using the official spelling norms of the company he's applying for on his resume would also show that he's done his homework, thus showing he's a meticulous worker who will likely treat clients the same way. If he's so nonchalant about his spelling on a resume, then how much more so elsewhere.
You really love those sweeping, broad generalizations don't you.

There are literally thousands of people out there that have a great deal of difficulty writing, and spelling. Yet if you hand them a bat, a hammer a welding torch or a sketching pencil, they can make magic happen.

If you go through life with that BS assumption you just dropped on us, I hope you never reach the point in your career, in which you have the power to deny someone a chance to shine, because he has difficulty spelling or adhering to your strict and silly use of the word center.

I see you conveniently ignored my post, in which I showed that institutions of higher learning in Canada accept either spelling as correct.

I guess that just doesn't fit into that life of whining you've created.
 

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I think you're making some pretty broad and sweeping generalizations there.

You really love those sweeping, broad generalizations don't you.

There are literally thousands of people out there that have a great deal of difficulty writing, and spelling. Yet if you hand them a bat, a hammer a welding torch or a sketching pencil, they can make magic happen.

If you go through life with that BS assumption you just dropped on us, I hope you never reach the point in your career, in which you have the power to deny someone a chance to shine, because he has difficulty spelling or adhering to your strict and silly use of the word center.

I see you conveniently ignored my post, in which I showed that institutions of higher learning in Canada accept either spelling as correct.

I guess that just doesn't fit into that life of whining you've created.

I guess it would depend on if that person's job involved working with words. You're right, not in all jobs must the worker worry about spelling, but for some jobs it would be the deciding factor, especially for professional sign-makers like Praxius.
 

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The rest of the world, except Britain, Australia, and most other Commonwealth nations that speak english around the world.
Don't you mean "English" with a capital "E"? roflmao So much for the expert professional in the spelling business. :roll:
BTW, I posted a couple links, one from Oz, where they use the "center" form of the spelling. Again, you are out-to-lunch and not really the expert you claim to be..

Despite popular opinion, the US is not "The rest of the World"
I agree.

You're actually trying to compare how something taxes a system, to the minor misspelling of a word. I can't even imagine how that remotely equates as similar.
Ah, so you admit is is a minor issue. Still haven't clued in that it isn't a misspelling, though.

No, I was trying to compare how the average joe on the street views something that they normally don't know all the inner workings to something, compared to professionals who's job is to ensure something is done right and should know better then the average joe because, once again, it's their job.
lol Strut around all you like Mr. Professional.
BTW, don't you mean "whose" rather than "who's". So, would like to keep trying to look down your beak at me, Mr. Professional?

Machjo's observations are a perfect example of what happens when the professionals drop the ball..... a minor example, but still a perfect example none the less.
Again, the error is not with the spelling, but with the consistency of how the Can. gov't usually spells the word.
But also again, this issue is a tempest in a thimble.

Of course there are the odd clients out there who don't give a rat's ass what their advertising looks like.... and for them, they usually don't realize exactly how much business they really lose over something as trivial as spelling, because they're not educated in picking up on those things...... the designer is.... or at least supposed to be.
And there are clients "out there" that expect their ad people to come up with original ways of getting their points across, too. And those that like to do exactly this sort of thing to catch attention. So?

Like it or not, there are "Anal Dicks" out there who will base their decisions on seeking your business over such things as misspellings and how your advertisements (signs, flyers, vehicle graphics, etc.) are laid out and/or designed..... and it is no different then going out there with a resume that's completely disorganized and has spelling mistakes all throughout it.
And those same sorts of people that make a huge issue out of something so trivial as a perceived spelling error. Right. We got that a long time ago.

If I see a crappy resume, I'm not going to consider that person for a job..... just as if I see a business with shoddy advertisements, I'm not going to waste my money or time on them.
Funny. If I see a crappy resume, I'd figure out how well the critter could do the job and if he/she was extremely good, then I'd hire him/her and pressure him/her to correct whatever made the resume crappy.
IOW, you'd not accept a new employee based on a coffee stain on a shirt. I'd base acceptance on ability.

Oh and if you properly checked the proof supplied prior to it being produced, in regards to the vehicle graphics mentioned in your above quote, there wouldn't be any correction needed in the first place..... which is why proofs exist in the first place..... if the company you are getting signage from doesn't supply proofs before making your signage, then that's an even better example that they're amateur as all hell.
Don't you mean, "they're as amateur as all hell"?

Obviously CDNBear doesn't care about such details and doesn't give a damn about how his business is portrayed to the public and if that's the case, I wouldn't do business with his company either for the same reasons you mentioned above.
Obviously, you ASSume too much.

As it being a part of my job and professionally speaking, the question was asked and I figured I'd give a legit response and explanation about the subject.
And I should be the one to get over myself? roflmao
BTW, don't you mean, "As it is a part of my job ....."?

....... but for my job and for the Canadian Government, it's a bigger deal then the average citizen would care to consider.
wow Equating yourself with the gov't now. Yup, I should get over myself. roflmao

Do you still want to attack me?
 
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Anna, there is a difference between typing fast and furious on your own time in a forum and working professionally in your day job.
 

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I guess it would depend on if that person's job involved working with words. You're right, not in all jobs must the worker worry about spelling, but for some jobs it would be the deciding factor, especially for professional sign-makers like Praxius.
You guess? On just one aspect of that whole post?

Wow, way to gloss over a whole lot eh.

Anna, there is a difference between typing fast and furious on your own time in a forum and working professionally in your day job.
Agreed, which is why the spelling of center is accepted in either form.


I stand by my hopes about you and your career.
 
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You just don't get it, huh? There's no error in the sign. "Center" is as perfectly valid as "centre" so you might as well get used to it. And "center" is not just US spelling.

OndaG:

You keep claiming that I don't get it. I don't recall saying that there was an error.

Perhaps you could re-read my posts, and show me where I did.

I think you're addressing someone else, not me.
 

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Do you know any grade 3 teachers?
First off, I didn't say there was any mistake in it.
You said, "Although I would expect that our gov't would take as much effort to pick the right spelling of words as they take to ensure that everything is bilingual."
Second, it's not an ad, it's a sign.
Who cares? You guys want to make a mountain out of this, too?

Third, weights and measures, the names, abbreviations, symbols and uses are specified by various international standards bodies. The OED can say whatever it wants to, but the official names, spellings, abbreviations, and meanings of units of weights and measures are specified elsewhere, and are the legal definitions.
Do you have any evidence supporting your claim that these words are manufactured "elsewhere" rather than adopted by the various scientific communities from the English language?

Oh My Gawd! Somewhere along the way someone made a typo! Question ... if you were in an ambulance screaming to the hopital, would you kick up a fuss because the sign said ER?
lol.

Good post. If you consider that some people actually boycott imports and engage in all kinds of 'buy-Canadian' campaigns (I'm not one of them myself as many of you have likely figured out from my posts on free trade in the past), then those same people are likely to react to the spelling of 'center' at a recruiting centre, especially seeing that those who would apply are likely to be more nationalistic than the rest by definition. For for the Canadian Forces' demographic, it's likely to be quite a significant impact.

Now if a person gave me a resume all written in perfect US English, or British English, or Canadian English, or Australian English, etc. I'd have no issue with it. But if that person's resume is a mishmash of Englishes, then clearly he doesn't pay attention to detail in his resume, and so is likely not to pay attention to detail in his work either. Then again, his using the official spelling norms of the company he's applying for on his resume would also show that he's done his homework, thus showing he's a meticulous worker who will likely treat clients the same way. If he's so nonchalant about his spelling on a resume, then how much more so elsewhere.
Ever heard of dyslexia? Did you know there are varying degrees of the disorder? Why not hire on ability rather than English use?
 

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Sure if you misspelled my name or my service. If I needed the word center in my name I wouldn't give a rats ass. As I drove through Keswick yesterday, I noticed many centers. It made me laugh. People like you and Mach would blow a gasket!
lol

Is that how you felt when you said it to Anna?
I didn't feel a thing. I looked around for a dove to ask, too. There are no doves here so I gave up.
 

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What a whole lot of hot air for something so trivial. You just don't get it do ya?

I'm just explaining how it is, you're the one not "Getting It"

That's awesome. And I still think passing judgment over er/re is a waste of energy.

I'm not passing judgment on anything, I'm just telling it as it is..... it is wrong, because it is wrong.... I can not judge that it is right, because it simple isn't.... it's just plain fact that it is wrong.

China town is a prime example of how that theory fails.

Not when it comes to the Designer, which was the point. :roll: I swear you guys just like to not read things in order to keep the argument going.

Awesome, and I don't disagree necessarily. I'm bigger then that tough. I don't care if someones resume is as dyslexic as it can be. If he can weld and holds certs, then he's OK by me.

Then that of course depends on the job at hand.... but once again, the point was the general view of resumes we're all taught growing up and entering the work force.... crappy looking resumes are generally not looked upon highly.

Like I said, I'm bigger then that.

It has nothing to do with being bigger then someone else.... it's a matter of choice.

You choose one thing for your own reasons and as I said, so be it...... I choose something else for my own reasons and you say you're bigger then that..... doesn't sound very big to me when you try and justify your reasons for choosing something as being better then someone else's when one's choices and reasons are subjective to the individual.

It's like opinions being like arseholes.....

I see you missed the point entirely.

No, I got your point, I just figured I'd give you some of the crap you've been dishing me.... fun ain't it? ;-)

Sure, I agree with you. But if you rate a company on the spelling of center, I suggest you get help. That kind of anal tendency can't be healthy.

It's not the only thing, but it is a part of my overall review of a company.

No, making such a big deal out of the spelling of center. Try and keep up and stick to the context of the discussion.

I'd recommend you do the same.... as I already said, I'm only stating how it is, I am not stating or trying to force everybody to confirm to my views..... you are not a graphic designer or in the sign industry like I am, but in my field of work, this is how it is.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game...... as mentioned before, if the game in this country changes the official spelling to Center, I will spell it that way..... but until then.....

Again, you've missed the point Prince.

If I missed the point, it's because I'm responding to your comments that already missed the original point....

Yes you are, lmao!!!

*shakes head* exactly how many times do I have to explain it to you that when it comes to your precious personal life, I don't care what you do or how you spell things?

My entire point in this thread is geared directly towards the sign in question, the government's ability to review something and how it is in the industry I work in...... this is how it is.... unless you are working in my field and are a graphic designer, or unless you're wanting advertisements for your place of business, it doesn't matter how you spell something.

The position you are trying to argue makes about as much sense as me trying to tell you that it doesn't matter how your company welds something, so long as it looks to me that it sticks together..... or me telling you to weld aluminum to steel since they're both metals.

There are certain things required by your industry just as there are for mine..... and since my company does welding too, I am fully aware you don't weld aluminum to steel..... just another one of those points.

And then disagree with anyone that says the spelling of center really bears no weight on the quality of the service.

Because in some cases it does..... and clearly by others in this thread who know what they're talking about, I'm not the only one who believes this.

What you do in your personal life and/or how you post in these forums is not the same thing as what you do for your job or your quality of service.

If you owned and operated these forums though and you continually misspelled the text on the buttons/links or other parts of the forum, then what I say would apply and I would consider your forum as amateur.

According to you. You might want to peruse the Liberal web site.

No, it is not According to me, it's according to the Industry and according to reality.... I didn't make the rules and I didn't invent Canadian English.

I'm telling you how it is, the evidence and facts are out there in your elementary/high schools, your universities, on the internet and on the links already provided in this thread.

You're trying to argue fault on my side of the argument which already has decades of evidence and facts backing it up, while your side of the argument is based around your subjective laziness of not caring how things are supposed to be spelled.

You're wasting your precious time fighting an already lost battle in this subject and if it's really not that big of a deal and you really don't care how something is spelled.... .then once again, why the hell are you still wasting your time in this thread arguing an already lost position?

Sure if you misspelled my name or my service. If I needed the word center in my name I wouldn't give a rats ass. As I drove through Keswick yesterday, I noticed many centers. It made me laugh. People like you and Mach would blow a gasket!

I wouldn't blow a gasket, I'd just consider the local sign company in the area who did those signs as amateurs, which is what I have already said.