Canadian Federal Election Outcome October 20th (or 27th?), 2025.

Ron in Regina

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(Singh boasted 22 times in one press conference that he’d “ripped up” his deal with Trudeau)
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has been trying to convince the Liberals that he wants to help, while simultaneously promising to bring down the government. A tough sell, to say the least.

Many Conservatives had been warily watching these events as a sign that perhaps, with NDP support, the Liberals would be able to hold onto power until the statutory fixed election date next October.

Should they think again??? Singh’s latest offer produced a massive yawn on the Liberal side. That is perhaps the best indication that they have no interest in extending the life of their government much beyond the day when they choose their new leader. It’s easy to understand.

Could it be that after 30-ish months of the non-coalition coalition that was definitely not a coalition-type coalition…that Singh is just as toxic as Trudeau at this point? 🤔

It requires a certain je ne sais quoi (I’d call it sliminess) be able to say one thing and its opposite in the same sentence. This is a skill that Singh put on display this week.
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“I will be voting against the government at the earliest opportunity. If the Liberals are serious, though, about a plan to support workers, call the opposition leaders together. Discuss that plan with us,” he said Tuesday.

A slight logistical problem posed itself for Singh. How are you supposed to convince the government that you’re there in good faith to help them introduce new budgetary measures, when their defeat on that same legislation would mean an automatic election?

Why are the Liberals ignoring their greasy dance partner now?

One is momentum, or at least the illusion of it. It would be a real downer, after the high of a leadership race and the non-election of a new de facto prime minister, to then get back into the grind of a minority parliament and hand Poilievre his soapbox. What possible gain is there in that for the Liberals?

A second is the legislative agenda, the compulsory budget in particular. What would be the advantage to the Liberals of sticking their new leader’s face in the target and handing the opposition parties a stack of cream pies to throw at them?

A third, as surprising as it might sound, is good old Canadian language politics. After prorogation, there would have to be a throne speech. That would pose a singular challenge. No slight intended to our Governor General as a person, but in a country with two official languages, Gov. Gen. Mary Simon still couldn’t deliver the requisite parts of a throne speech in plausible French.

(That might seem like a small detail to many, but it would be perceived as a slight by the eight million Canadians who have French as their first language. Not a winning proposition for the Liberals who’ve “traditionally” done well with that vote)

Fourth, and perhaps most importantly, the Liberals will want to be the ones to decide the date. Being defeated is not a way to start off for a new leader. Cutting to the chase, that would give Carney the prerogative to choose the length of the election campaign.

As the current opposition, Pierre Poilievre has exceptional rhetorical skills. As a leadership candidate, he wiped the floor with a seasoned politician like Jean Charest. He’s not to be underestimated. But a federal general election is a different beast. A 24/7 news cycle reveals character. That may not help Poilievre.

The economy promises (call it a smoke screen combined with slight of hand) to be the main thrust of the Liberal campaign and, from their point of view, the longer the campaign, the better it will be for them to make their case.

The Liberal track record under Trudeau has been sketchy at best. The economy has been his Achilles heel. One of the few promises that he kept from his 2015 campaign was to never have a balanced budget. He excelled at that.

Trudeau’s weakness on the economy has, of course, hurt Chrystia Freeland who backed Trudeau every step of the way for nine years.

Carney’s “claim” to be an ‘outsider’ is the Liberals’ best and, indeed, only hope.
There’s a lot to be forgiven before Canadian voters will give the Liberals another chance. For them to pull it off, they have to show voters that they have not only a new face but a new approach to governing.😉

Watching Carney rally so many of Freeland’s former colleagues has been revealing, like Trudeau & something like 16 of Trudeau’s cabinet ministers endorsing Trudeau/Telford’s coronation of Carney ‘cuz he’s such an outsider and has been for years.

It remains to be seen whether those qualities will allow him to convince enough Canadian voters that he can also change the Liberals' old ways and that they should be given another chance under his leadership…but currently his sway in the polls is a probability rounding error so far.
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Ron in Regina

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Between a caffeinated conservative and a decaf one.
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Between beer and near-beer.
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What’s happened over the course of the Liberal leadership race since Carney officially entered on Jan.18 in Edmonton and unofficially on Jan. 14 on The Daily Show with an enthusiastic Jon Stewart, is that Carney keeps nudging to the right, at least rhetorically, the Liberal party that lame duck Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spent almost a decade dragging to the left, straight into its current dumpster fire of unpopularity.
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Consider:

Poilievre has vowed to scrap the federal carbon tax (aka the consumer fuel charge portion of it) if he becomes prime minister as he has ever since Trudeau and the Liberals introduced the concept seven years ago.

Carney, by contrast, a leading global and corporate promoter of carbon taxes, until a couple of weeks ago, now says he’ll scrap the consumer fuel tax and replace it it with something better, blaming Poilievre for misleading Canadians about what it would do?
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Meanwhile, Poilievre, who has opposed Liberal plans to increase the capital gains tax since the Liberals introduced it in June, vows to scrap them if he becomes PM.

Carney now says he too, will scrap the proposed increases even though they were introduced and advocated for by his own political party?

(The Trudeau government has since announced it is deferring its capital gains tax legislation until 2026, after the federal election is over.)
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Poilievre says the Liberals over their decade in power lost control of immigration, the federal budget, deficits and debt, overspent and overtaxed the middle class. He now promises a tax cut to help families cope with tough times.

Carney says the Liberals over their decade in power lost control of immigration, the federal budget, deficits and debt, overspent and overtaxed the middle class. He also promises a tax cut to help families cope with tough times now?
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Poilievre says the federal civil service has grown too large under the Liberals and he will reduce its size and budget by attrition, thus helping to pay for government services without going further into debt.

Carney says the federal civil service has grown by more than 30% under the Liberals “and I think we can over time be in a position to increase productivity” to help pay for government programs such as dental care and pharmacare, rather than scrap them which he says he will not do?
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The danger for Carney and the Liberals is that attacking political positions their own party and they themselves recently supported, makes them come across as double-talkers and hypocrites.😳

But they really have no choice because praising those policies reminds voters of why they became so disillusioned and frustrated with the Trudeau Liberals in the first place.🤔
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That happened because while Canadians were concerned about the high cost of putting food on the table and paying the rent, issues that Poilievre and the Conservatives were raising every day, Liberals were talking about climate change and their own political survival in the face of crashing poll numbers. Whoopsies.

Finally, the wild card in the coming federal election is, of course, U.S. President Donald Trump, who inexplicably seems to have it in for Canada these days.
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Poilievre really hasn’t had to change anything in the last year, & the Liberal Party under whomever it’s actually under is grasping at the rim of the bowl as the water swirls around their hips (which begs the question of what Color is Jagmeet snorkel?).
Anyway, Canadians will have to endure Carney’s lectures because the Liberals have decided they must, for their own good. Just about all of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s political gang has lined up behind Carney for an effortless transition after the coming coronation.
 

Ron in Regina

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Former central banker Mark Carney opened the door to an early election call when he’s coronated by Liberal members to replace Justin Trudeau as party leader and prime minister in a March 9 leadership vote.😉

Mr. Carney, the perceived front-runner, has been crisscrossing the country to introduce himself to rank-and-file Liberal party members and announcing some watered down versions of Pierre Poilievre’s policy initiatives. See the post above this one?

When crowned to succeed Mr. Trudeau, the former governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England said he would have to decide (as Prime Minister) whether to recall Parliament to pass an emergency relief package in the event U.S. tariffs are imposed in March, or seek a fresh mandate from Canadians to negotiate with the Trump administration?

Parliament is scheduled to return on March 24, but many Liberals are urging Mr. Carney to call a snap election to avoid having the Conservatives try to define him with negative advertising….or face him across the floor in Parliament assuming Carney has a seat to sit in?
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Mr. Carney, who has claimed the mantle of an outsider😉, has “won over” the majority of the federal cabinet and Liberal MPs with the Trudeau/Telford/Butts endorsement to his leadership campaign, promising to move the party back to the political centre?
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Mr. Carney appears to be taking similar pages out of the campaign platform of Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre because political centre, etc…
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Recent public opinion polls show a narrowing of the race between the Liberals and Conservatives, with at least two polls showing the Liberals ahead of Mr. Poilievre’s party, which had led by double digit numbers for more than year.
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Ron in Regina

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If lame-duck Prime Minister Justin Trudeau hadn’t been channeling the indecisiveness of Hamlet in delaying a decision about his political future until the worst possible moment, we would not be in the political mess we’re in today.

If Trudeau had put his country ahead of his ego, he would have quit months (or years?) ago as most Canadians and even many Liberals wanted him to do.
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In that case, there would have been a federal election by now and we would know who speaks for Canada when it comes to dealing with U.S. President Donald Trump in his campaign of open economic warfare against our country.
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Instead, we have lots of politicians vying for attention but no one with the electoral mandate to speak for the country.
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Not Trudeau, who everyone — including Trump — knows is a dead-man walking, politically speaking, and thus can easily be dismissed and mocked, as the U.S, president has been doing.

Not Canada’s premiers whose electoral mandate is to speak for their provinces and territories, not the country.

We are where we are and Mark Carney, the frontrunner in the race to replace Trudeau as Liberal leader, is now saying he may call an early election if he’s elected Liberal leader on March 9, which would automatically make him prime minister as well.
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Carney is obviously eyeing polls that show him cutting into the lead of Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre so of course this is yet another example of personal political opportunism.

But that said, we need a federal election as soon as possible, so if Carney wants to call one given the scenario he’s talking about we say do it and let the chips fall where they may.
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The time for Canadians to decide who they want to lead their country is long overdue and it is now.
 
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Over the past yearish, there have been a great number of people, mostly stuck in the cheap seats in far left field, demanding that Pollievier lay out his election platform so they could criticize it. Good thing he didn't lay it all out because the front runners in the liberal race to extinction have all suddenly proclaim they would do exactly the same as the Conservatives have pushed for since this government began. Did they have a Eureka moment? Or are they truly so befit of logical plans that they have to steal from the competition? More importantly to the electorate, would any of them lead the once great liberal party in the right direction, or are they simply buying votes to get elected and then go back to their destroying our country?
Since Carnival and Freeland are both globalists, adhering to the WEF, can they possibly look out for an independent Canada's best interests?
Globalist and Nationalist are diametrically opposed and cannot operate together regardless of a few common interests.
 

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Over the past yearish, there have been a great number of people, mostly stuck in the cheap seats in far left field, demanding that Pollievier lay out his election platform so they could criticize it. Good thing he didn't lay it all out because the front runners in the liberal race to extinction have all suddenly proclaim they would do exactly the same as the Conservatives have pushed for since this government began. Did they have a Eureka moment? Or are they truly so befit of logical plans that they have to steal from the competition? More importantly to the electorate, would any of them lead the once great liberal party in the right direction, or are they simply buying votes to get elected and then go back to their destroying our country?
Since Carnival and Freeland are both globalists, adhering to the WEF, can they possibly look out for an independent Canada's best interests?
Globalist and Nationalist are diametrically opposed and cannot operate together regardless of a few common interests.
Eureka got nothing to do with this. It's a nice town. Leave it alone. Go peddle your magic elixir in Moose Jaw or Beaver Nuts.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Maybe PM Carney “might” actually call an election (before he actually has to debate somebody in Parliament, assuming he gets a seat in parliament), instead of calling in the emergencies act because of Trump for justification, to keep from having to debate anybody in Parliament…?

If he doesn’t do either of the above, then he’s gonna be in parliament, as the liberal leader, & the Prime Minister, in somebody else’s chair that’s still gonna be warm…answering for every scandal and ethics violation for the Liberal party from the last decade, & his own involvement there of as an “outsider.”
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Maybe PM Carney “might” actually call an election (before he actually has to debate somebody in Parliament, assuming he gets a seat in parliament), instead of calling in the emergencies act because of Trump for justification, to keep from having to debate anybody in Parliament…?

If he doesn’t do either of the above, then he’s gonna be in parliament, as the liberal leader, & the Prime Minister, in somebody else’s chair that’s still gonna be warm…answering for every scandal and ethics violation for the Liberal party from the last decade, & his own involvement there of as an “outsider.”
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There is still the slush fund and covid frauds.
 

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If he doesn’t do either of the above, then he’s gonna be in parliament, as the liberal leader, & the Prime Minister, in somebody else’s chair that’s still gonna be warm…answering for every scandal and ethics violation for the Liberal party from the last decade, & his own involvement there of as an “outsider.”
He is not even actually going to be in Parliament. The closest he can get is the visitors' gallery. Can't do debates, speechifing, committee meetings. Haven't found out yet if he can even do appointments and meet with the GG, since he is not a member of parliament.
 

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68 seats now. How low does that need to go to spell minority? Actually, assuming all other counts hold (they aren't -- they have fallen in the maritimes too) that number is 49. I don't think a Conservative Majority is as clear cut as it was.
 
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He is not even actually going to be in Parliament. The closest he can get is the visitors' gallery. Can't do debates, speechifing, committee meetings. Haven't found out yet if he can even do appointments and meet with the GG, since he is not a member of parliament.
Someone (a Liberal MP in the Ottawa or Ottawa adjacent MP arena) is going to surrender their seat to Carney, without an election it bye-bye-election…otherwise you’d be correct.
68 seats now. How low does that need to go to spell minority? Actually, assuming all other counts hold (they aren't -- they have fallen in the maritimes too) that number is 49. I don't think a Conservative Majority is as clear cut as it was.
Yep, take nothing for granted, & all of that so far without Carney having to answer a single unscripted question to date. What happens when he actually has to interact with Canadians, unscripted, both inside and outside of parliament?

Most media will toss him softball scripted questions…but not all…& even at his announcement that he was running he was already censoring certain media from participating for that exact reason.
 
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68 seats now. How low does that need to go to spell minority? Actually, assuming all other counts hold (they aren't -- they have fallen in the maritimes too) that number is 49. I don't think a Conservative Majority is as clear cut as it was.
Until Conservatives offer at least the same amount of goodies to the perennial takers as the liberals give, expect more of the same. If, as I suspect it will be a clear east-west divide, separation will be on the agenda west of Ontario if there is another liberal government.
 

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Someone (a Liberal MP in the Ottawa or Ottawa adjacent MP arena) is going to surrender their seat to Carney, without an election it bye-bye-election…otherwise you’d be correct
By-election runs the risk of a Conservative winning. It also requires a certain amount of time to set up. Leaving us with no leader for even longer.
 

Ron in Regina

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By-election runs the risk of a Conservative winning. It also requires a certain amount of time to set up. Leaving us with no leader for even longer.
So no by-election, & some Liberal MP literally just surrenders their seat & riding to Carney to avoid that outcome, & Carney isn’t going to accept just any seat anywhere…so this is interesting all in its own.

I’m still assuming it’s gonna be one of the four Ottawa Liberal MP’s, or one literally adjacent to Ottawa…because it’s not like Carney’s running to win a riding, and then hoping to win the liberal leadership…he’s stated that he’s running to be the Prime Minister (without bothering with the riding initially, like anybody else) to be parachuted into the PM position by Trudeau & Telford & Butts & the Trudeau Cabinet Ministers…without having to bother with a federal election, at least at this point.