Canadian economy heading for recession

taxslave

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So you didn't work Rupert and Kitimat?

Not in Rupert. Kitamat is RioTinto smelter. Private enterprise not connected with AP. So far there has been very little ground work done for AP. Too may meetings and concessions to various special interest groups. I expect things to ramp up there next year.
 

petros

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Not in Rupert. Kitamat is RioTinto smelter. Private enterprise not connected with AP. So far there has been very little ground work done for AP. Too may meetings and concessions to various special interest groups. I expect things to ramp up there next year.

Rail and roads for the potash terminal was completed and others are underway away in Rupericht. Rail has to go in first to get everything up there while highway 16 gets major improvements

Vancouver's AP projects have been going on for years with sh-tloads already completed. Container and bulker capacity has been upped considerably. The Feds bankrolled Provincial highways infrastructure that BC could never afford on their own and were ignored because BC equals basket case. Spending millions upon millions for flowers in the ditch instead of freeway overwhelming proves basket case.

The inland AP ports in Winnipeg and Regina have been built and running for a few years already

Highway 1 was completly doubled from Northern ON to damn near Golden BC. By 2018 it will be doubled right to the coast.

Same goes goes for rail.

NO MORE BOTTLENECKS.

That is f-cking amazing and anyone in ON who doesn't realize that the door has been opened to a 3 Billion person market and says Harper hasn't done anything for Canadian manufacturers needs to shut the f-ck up or f-ck off.
 

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Notice that the "good" nations are lacking access to Canadian goods?

The cost to of shipping from Eastern Canada through Panama and then back north makes Eastern Canadian goods unattractive.

You wouldn't be working up coast without Fed money. The money for AP Gateway didn't fall from the sky.
Most of Ontario's manufactured goods were typically sold in America . I am pretty sure they are still just as close to that market .
 

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Canada needs a change, unless you like beening a warmongering Third World country covered in pollution and ran by big business.

The decision is yours

I'm pretty sure if we make the decision for change we will see taxes soar. (I could stand a modest increase in taxes, if they were to go right to health & possibly improve the lot of the truly destitute) Actually I'm still content to bear with the "Devil we have". What interest in the West do Jr. and Mulcair have? Approximately none +/-.
 

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Those are Provincial taxes not Fed.

The B.C. provincial income tax was reduced by 25% back in 2002 and to my knowledge hasn't been increased, but everyone here loves to hate the B.C. Liberals. (I guess the favourite party is almost always one of the ones not in power) :)
 

petros

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Obama used the econauts to justify delaying XL and then used that time to frack the f-ck out of ND and MT without a boo from the econauts over fracking or the 30,000 shiny new rail tankers.

That's not very neighbourly.
 

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Conference Board of Canada sees more disappointment ahead for economy | Financial Post
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OTTAWA — The Canadian economy continues to deliver what central bank governor Stephen Poloz has described as “serial disappointment.”

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Canada’s economy seemed a shovel-full deeper into a downturn in May — and a recession, if only by strict definition.

But we’ll find out just how close the economy actually is to retracing the previous recession of 2008-09 this Friday when Statistics Canada reports gross domestic products.

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The post-recession road to recovery has been a bumpy one, and it now looks like we could be heading back in that direction.

The Conference Board of Canada on Wednesday forecast economic growth of just 1.6 per cent this year, which the Ottawa-based think-tank said is down from its March estimate of 1.9 per cent. The latest growth outlook is the worst since 2009 — the tail end of the previous downturn — and more disappointment could lie ahead.

Topping the board’s list of suspects dragging down economic activity are the oil-price rout and weak business investment by Canadian companies.

Adding to those worries are plunging stocks and slowing economic growth in China, the yet-to-be-completed debt rescue for Greece.

Meanwhile, many economists have been disappointed by the pace of the U.S. recovery — the main element required to lift exports from this country — even though that country’s GDP has rebounded from a collapse at the start of 2015.

“There has been much speculation on whether the Canadian economy has dipped into recession,” said Matthew Stewart, associate director, responsible for the national forecast.

“With Canada’s potential output growth slowing due to an aging population and lacklustre investment outside of the energy sector, real GDP growth is not expected to exceed 2.3 per cent at any point over the next five years.”

Poloz, the central bank governor, has acted on his “serial disappointment” concerns by cutting interest rates twice this year. The bank’s key lending level now sits at 0.5 per cent.

The latest hard numbers for Canada will be released Friday by Statistics Canada, with many private-sector analysts forecasting a flat or slight negative reading for May — pointing to a second-consecutive quarter of economic contraction, following a 0.6-per-cent decline from January to March.

April continued the negative GDP pattern, edging down 0.1 per cent. June data is set for release in August. Two consecutive quarterly declines is an initial sign that an economy could be stuck in a recessionary pattern.

Even if Canada slips into mild recession, we expect it to be small and short-lived, with the economy picking up through the rest of the year

“We expect the numbers to show economic growth tracking close to zero in the second quarter, as the economy flirts with recession,” said Stewart, at the Conference Board.

“But even if Canada slips into mild recession, we expect it to be small and short-lived, with the economy picking up through the rest of the year.”

The board notes points “positive signs of growth, as the economy added 16,000 jobs a month on average over the first half of the year, which is better than what we saw through most of 2014.”

Still, business investment “will be the weakest part of the economy this year, held back by deep cuts in the energy sector.”

“Oil and gas firms are expected to chop their investment by almost one-third, plunging from $68.8 billion last year to $52.5 billion this year. Outside the energy sector, firms remain hesitant to invest.”

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Conference Board of Canada sees more disappointment ahead for economy | Financial Post