Canadian companies moving south to avoid US tariffs.

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One or two really bad harvest years (and they happen) and China's 1.3 billion become a MAJOR liability and danger to themselves. China is one big volcanic eruption somewhere on Earth away from a second Chinese revolution.
. . . or not, . . . .
 

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Do you realize that China is highly dependent on food imports? Much of their agricultural land is unproductive. Chinese tourism is growing too. Also, why would they sell anything to us unless they want something in return. We give them money for the things we buy. I presume they don't just burn that money but intend to spend it later.
Again, how do you explain Hong Kong, Singapore, and New Zealand?
. . . or not, . . . .
Maybe not
 

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While everybody is trying to box in Iran, Russia and China are building a line that will mean the Ukraine will need to be inking a deal with Iran if they want more than candles for light and heat all year round.
 

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While everybody is trying to box in Iran, Russia and China are building a line that will mean the Ukraine will need to be inking a deal with Iran if they want more than candles for light and heat all year round.
They are not uber alles. They are massively overpopulated.
 

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Do you realize that China is highly dependent on food imports?
Every nation imports food, the issue is how well would they make out in a siege applied by the IMF. That is one of the tools they use when they move into an area, they take away that ability as much as possible. Our main diet is flour and Canola oil, that is not by accident. Many in South Africa and the Ukraine are hungry as the food grown there is shipped out of the country.



Much of their agricultural land is unproductive.
You mean not as productive as Monsanto fields, Right?



Chinese tourism is growing too.
Inside the country and outside. Canada and the US are not their destinations.



Also, why would they sell anything to us unless they want something in return.
Why would they have to buy anything from is if they have other suppliers that are cheaper and closer and less likely to stab you in the back at some point.



We give them money for the things we buy. I presume they don't just burn that money but intend to spend it later.
Sure they will, to buy natural resources from somebody else. India and Iran and Syria and Africa and South America could make sure there was nothing left to ship to North America, . . . at any price. We should be the leading supplier of hemp to the world. The amount we produce isn't enough for shoelaces for everybody. We have nobody but ourselves to blame either. 'Gutless wonders' will be what the 'beloved baby-boomers' will be remembered as.



Again, how do you explain Hong Kong, Singapore, and New Zealand?
Walmart, CostCo and Sears for the global community as the business men from there are so crooked they have to 'be contained' to 'small groups'
 

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They are not uber alles. They are massively overpopulated.
They probably feel the same way about 'you and your kind'. Are they using too much of the planet for 'your liking' as 'you' cannot start a war against them and have a hope in hell of winning it??
 

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'your 'you' a your way liking' in about planet as too them the start of hope they have winning Are of They using probably against and a cannot much and the kind'. feel war same for it?? 'you hell
 

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Cielalit asi pe rotum cavis inol arasemied! Cekef noti anisato rilone cen tes esu tey iwosa! Nepa noboda cosi xekef topire sep tenil la ta me. Fipiten ken ce nehie ocodela de rier, pi dasit pin? To amax eloto sereho go lieteso: Dogupi niliro foy. Vobigi rabo adane rer yoto apiebugi conugi suce sename. Irili rabien leras rorohe bur te eroget vo kigavu nigav! Pefanin remiref alesun pasoto sa helol ka rib ne esal! Uritieme dutil le cetes.
 

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Do you realize that China is highly dependent on food imports? Much of their agricultural land is unproductive. Chinese tourism is growing too. Also, why would they sell anything to us unless they want something in return. We give them money for the things we buy. I presume they don't just burn that money but intend to spend it later.
Again, how do you explain Hong Kong, Singapore, and New Zealand?
You are talking about a couple of countries that are smaller than my island.
 

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You are talking about a couple of countries that are smaller than my island.

You've just reinforced my point. How can two little countries with so few natural resources at their disposal and needing to learn English as a second or even foreign language outperform most other countries in the world?

From what you yourself just said, Canada should be able to easily outperform Hong Kong and Singapore even if we mismanaged our countr to a degree. In other words, they're not just doing something right that we can learn from. They're doing something so right compared to what whe're doing that we should hang our heads in shame.
 

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You've just reinforced my point. How can two little countries with so few natural resources at their disposal and needing to learn English as a second or even foreign language outperform most other countries in the world?

From what you yourself just said, Canada should be able to easily outperform Hong Kong and Singapore even if we mismanaged our countr to a degree. In other words, they're not just doing something right that we can learn from. They're doing something so right compared to what whe're doing that we should hang our heads in shame.
What they are doing right is exploiting poverty in order to get things to sell at very cheap prices.
 

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What they are doing right is exploiting poverty in order to get things to sell at very cheap prices.

They actually both have a good social safety net. Plus the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is enshrined in Hong Kong's Basic Law (essentially Hong Kong's mini-constitution).

Hong Kong's human rights, though under attack from Beijing, have been holding strong so far.
 

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They actually both have a good social safety net. Plus the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is enshrined in Hong Kong's Basic Law (essentially Hong Kong's mini-constitution).

Hong Kong's human rights, though under attack from Beijing, have been holding strong so far.
They prey upon the poor throughout asia in order to manufacture garbage to sell to us.

That's how they get by,

What are we supposed to do? Be like them and have stuff made in indonesia and sell it in America?
 

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They prey upon the poor throughout asia in order to manufacture garbage to sell to us.
That's how they get by,
What are we supposed to do? Be like them and have stuff made in indonesia and sell it in America?

Why not? The Indonesians get good jobs and the Americans get good products at a low price.

But why are the goalposts suddenly changing? I thought unilateral global free trade on the part of Canada was supposed to hurt Canada itself, not enrich Canada unjustly at the expense of other countries. So which is it?

Also, I don't see Hong Kong's economy as somehow exploiting neighbouring ones. If that's the case, the other country could just cut trade ties with Hong Kong. So if Hong Kong's economy is parasitical, then why do poorer states tolerate it? Could it be because the arrangement is mutually beneficial?