Canadian 9/11 Petition for Parliament

TenPenny

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Well, the first requirement is to determine the actual facts. It may well be that spending (military and public sector) in Canada needs to be changed as a result of the findings in a new investigation. Spending may even go down - which would be a benefit to other budget priorities in Canada.

Also, knowing the facts may well prevent such an occurance from happening again.

Fact: plane hit building
Fact: building subsequently fell down.
 

FiveParadox

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Dec 20, 2005
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Regardless of the original cause of the World Trade Center disaster (and to be clear, I have little-to-no-respect for the academic credence of any supposed conspiracy theories that are floating around), there were legitimate reasons for the Canadian Forces to be deployed to the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
 

911petition

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Actually, the two points are the same - the relationship between the World Trade Center and the legitamacy of the reasons for the invasion of Afghanistan. Initially this was to hunt down Bin Laden. Observation - he has not been caught.

Unfortunately, this is a current issue with a long history. Focussing on only one part of it will still lead you back to the original question - about why we are in Afghanistan (actually) and the full truth about the World Trade Center.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Military activity in Afghanistan is a UN and NATO sanctioned action against international terrorism. The events of 9/11 certainly had a galvanizing effect on that, but they do not support your conspiracy theory. The official explanation of 9/11, that a group of extremist young men, trained in and directed from bases in Afghanistan, attacked the United States (and those facts are not in dispute), is adequate justification in itself. I'm sure it's not the whole explanation, but it's not necessary to drag in silly claims about the complicity of U.S. government agencies and Mossad and gawd knows who else, to justify the response.
 

911petition

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Actually, the fact that 19 Saudi Arabian hijackers attacked during 9/11 is definitely not sufficient to justify attacking Afghanistan. The first step in a battle is to locate the enemy by the way. Why was this not first brought up with Saudi Arabia?

Here is an interesting New York Times article on the Obama administration stopping a 9/11 lawsuit against the Saudi Royal Family:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/us/politics/30families.html

So, the US government has intervened - why would this be?

Unless the article is false. Although, the New York Times is a fairly well known newspaper.
 

FiveParadox

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Actually (since you seem to very much like this word), the entirely unacceptable conduct of current and former Taliban and al-Qua'ida officials in Afghanistan is as much a reason as Canada needs to get involved. The gross scale of human rights violations in that wartorn country are more than deserving of our attention as a responsible member of the international community.
 

911petition

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If countries started to invade each other because of human rights violations, there would be no sovereignty for any country including Canada. Human rights violations are a major problem - the real causes cannot be addressed through any amount of military force.

Further, since the facts about 9/11 are disputed, it actually undermines our credibility as a peace keeping nation.

What if it turned out that Canada had been mislead about certain facts on 9/11, and the proceeded to invade another country based on those facts. Are we then going to see ourselves as having the right to dictate morality to anyone?

Your point on the Taliban is well taken. Our problem though is credibility.
 

911petition

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Incorrect. With respect to the official 9/11 report - it is entirely contradictory. Also, the date - 2010, is long after the first 9/11 investigation.
 

ironsides

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Actually, the two points are the same - the relationship between the World Trade Center and the legitamacy of the reasons for the invasion of Afghanistan. Initially this was to hunt down Bin Laden. Observation - he has not been caught.

Then you have not done your job, have you no pride in your work?
 

darkbeaver

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There isn't a debate, there's a paranoid conspiracy theory that's been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked on every point but is kept alive by people who don't understand what they're talking about and keep repeating each other's false claims.

That's what you say but the evidence says that you don't know what you're talking about. Of course what's been most thoroughly and repeatedly debunked is your credibility and that you have accomplished all on your own. Attention to evidence is not paranoia, it is science, and that science condemns your opinion as absurd public relations rhetoric, yes nothing else but pulp spin from a jumbo econo bag. I'm a skeptic and you're a cracker eating parrot.
 

ironsides

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This investigation has already been tainted with left wing rhetoric just by implying that some evil person/group other than Al-Qaeda and bin Laden had anything to do with it. The taking down of the Twin Towers was not a American created terrorist plot.
 

darkbeaver

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This investigation has already been tainted with left wing rhetoric just by implying that some evil person/group other than Al-Qaeda and bin Laden had anything to do with it. The taking down of the Twin Towers was not a American created terrorist plot.

What does American mean? The accusations are directed at the internationalist elements, America has long since ceased to be responsible for anything, it exists in the minds of it's former citizens but no where else. A mythical place that has never really existed, and never will. America is an Israeli slave state populated by hypnotized sheep.