Canada's reputation as a global citizen has slipped

taxslave

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This is true and it was designed to increase our exports.
It just did not happen it was a lesson in economics .
It did not hurt us at all as you might recall.

Those also were heady days for tourism to Canada.

Harper has tried to lower our dollar as well.

WE all know that tourism jobs pay so well.
 

Trex

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The Climate Action Network.

Now there is an unbiased bunch if ever there was one.
And the Lancet link is just some guys blog quoting the Climate Action Network.

I heard that the " Moose Jaw Swamp Turtle Watchers Association", a far larger and much more
prestigious organization ranked Canada the number one global good citizen.
The international community was reportedly set abuzz by the finding.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The Climate Action Network.

Now there is an unbiased bunch if ever there was one.
And the Lancet link is just some guys blog quoting the Climate Action Network.

I heard that the " Moose Jaw Swamp Turtle Watchers Association", a far larger and much more
prestigious organization ranked Canada the number one global good citizen.
The international community was reportedly set abuzz by the finding.
That's true. But at the same time, the Tuktoyuktuk Hockey, Poutine, and Beer Haters Alliance declared Canada the "Suckiest Global Citizen Ever, Worse than South Sudan."

The UN General Assembly debated this designation for three weeks, and released a unanimous resolution condemning something or other.
 

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Well I think you are american are you not.
so for sure you have drank enough kool aid to induce 20 jones town massacres and think it a good thing.

Which shows how much of a moron you are.

prove me wrong and actually take apart my post and we shall discuss it.
Prove what wrong?

That Canada did all the heavy lifting in Afghanistan? That's pretty obvious that you didn't.

That the US didn't try helping the Afghans? It is obvious we did. You're pretty naive to think that we didn't. You have zero knowledge on the history of Afghanistan and it's culture to think any westerners could go in and really change things.

I doubt if Canada was fully in charge that Afghanis would now be sitting in front of their new flat screens watching the NHL Playoffs with a plate of poutine and maple syrup in front of them.

oh and by the way lets get one thing out of the way.
"I'm not anti American, but very anti destroying people's countries after you lie out right to the world in the United nations to gain support."
You failed to mention how you destroyed Libya. Forgot that did you?



And what is this lie you're talking about?




so eaglesmack...hows about smacking my post.
Done!

 

Count_Lothian

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This is true and it was designed to increase our exports.
It just did not happen it was a lesson in economics .
It did not hurt us at all as you might recall.

Those also were heady days for tourism to Canada.

Harper has tried to lower our dollar as well.

The export sector and oil & gas did very well, but for everyone else, the cost of living went through the roof.

There is a reason that nations like Mexico revamped their monetary policy such that they weren't trading at a fraction of the greenback
Well as I said it was a lesson in economics.
Looking back it was Draconian in the sense we all paid the price in order for our export sector to do well and in some cases get a foothold in markets abroad.

The restaurant industry for example had to cut back on certain products it had to import, but some did quite well in higher volume from tourism.

I don't condone these economic measures but one should admit why they were implemented.

Chretien and Martin promised a robust economy and delivered it.

At what cost?
The export sector and oil & gas did very well, but for everyone else, the cost of living went through the roof.
If you are poor or working poor than ,no .
Unfortunately any strategy that entails "Boosting" the economy will cause a problem for those not making money from those measures.

Larger tax revenues and GDP figures look great , but the poor and working poor suffer.

If these sectors of society are not given social assistance they suffer more. When given social assistance the right calls foul and demands they work more, in order to survive the "Canada Action Plans" of both parties.

The gap between the haves and the haves has widened and some boost in social assistance is long over due.
 

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My god man , you would do well in a communist party fundraising campaign of the 60's.
but alas you know nothing of the roots of your country.

you need deprogramming , you are under the spell of some maniacle mad man who has misguided grudges against false imperlistic canadian propaganda formed in the minds of wannbe commies upset from the dismantling of communism in the former USSR.



your hilarious.

sorry that two of my posts got lumped together..
had to rearrange them in order to not look like i was talking to cliffy...
weirdness..

My post was consistent with my opinions expressed since i joined the forum.. in favour of economic and cultural nationalism.. and against the Globalist politics that have defined our agendas for the last 40 years. It has nothing to do wilth communism, which is decidedly anti-nationalist.

So i really don't have a clue what you're talking about, and i have my doubts you do either. As to the roots of the country.. i'd suggest you look at the policies that built the country.. starting with the National Policy of John A. MacDonald and progressive policies of equitable sharing of wealth amongst regions and individuals the have been systematically dismantled over the last few decades
 

Count_Lothian

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Hell hath no fury as a frustrated american!!!


Which shows how much of a moron you are.


Oh well ,lets go slumming with the insult crowd.
I've learned quite quickly in forums when you touch reality, a reality that sets off a nerve, an insult will follow from the lesser man.
Especially when he knows there is truth to what one says .

Prove what wrong?

That Canada did all the heavy lifting in Afghanistan? That's pretty obvious that you didn't.
Well that's gratitude for you. Canada over all, with what we have as an army did quite well.Compared to the trillions you spend on your military economy Canada pales in comparison . And yet we did quite well in subduing the enemy and protecting it's barbaric society.
Have a look at this:
Canada's role in the Afghanistan War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We did not initiate what caused 9/11, but we did try to help our neighbor.

You lied about WMD in Iraq, and we did not go there,that time
But being the good neighbor we lost treasure and spent billions on this Afghanistan war.

There was a time for many a year that we headed the campaign , and did most of the heavy lifting for quite some time.

If you wish to disgrace that fact , fine , knock yourself out.



That the US didn't try helping the Afghans? It is obvious we did. You're pretty naive to think that we didn't.
Where did i say otherwise. Your misquoting me due to your guilt. Your patriotism has been destroyed by what your government has done.

You have zero knowledge on the history of Afghanistan and it's culture to think any westerners could go in and really change things.
Ahhhh, i see ...first you misquote me and show your guilt and try to say you did much for their society, and now due to the abject failure in Afghanistan , especially after Canada has left it to your devices, you blame their culture.
sad.....very sad....but hey there is more to this smacking about from this guilt ridden american.

I doubt if Canada was fully in charge that Afghanis would now be sitting in front of their new flat screens watching the NHL Playoffs with a plate of poutine and maple syrup in front of them.
Ah he has slipped into complete frustration. I can't blame him .

You failed to mention how you destroyed Libya. Forgot that did you?
I did not realize we were responsable for destroying Libya. I do know we helped get rid of Khadaffi and his regime.

End of.


And what is this lie you're talking about?




Done!

The lie well there are two that i know of.

In the first Iraq war, you won't find this online anymore just a falsehood, CIA admitted on CNN they used a women to lie about Iraqi soldiers stealing incubators from a Kuwaiti hospital. The following head of CIA admitted on CNN they paid her to do this short piece of propaganda that was splashed all over the media in the western world every ten minutes . His words were that sometimes the american people need to be fooled for their own good.

I have witness to this and know someone who was in the very hospital in Kuwait City when they watched this propaganda unfold on television. Pointdexter died near the end of Desert Storm and his replacement is the one who spoke on CNN.

The next lie was the WMD's Saddam was supposed to have and his involvement with Al Qaeda.
You may stand by the fact your still looking for the WMD's and can't as of yet prove he was working with Al Qaeda .

what are your thoughts on Viet Nam?

My post was consistent with my opinions expressed since i joined the forum.. in favour of economic and cultural nationalism.. and against the Globalist politics that have defined our agendas for the last 40 years. It has nothing to do wilth communism, which is decidedly anti-nationalist.

So i really don't have a clue what you're talking about, and i have my doubts you do either. As to the roots of the country.. i'd suggest you look at the policies that built the country.. starting with the National Policy of John A. MacDonald and progressive policies of equitable sharing of wealth amongst regions and individuals the have been systematically dismantled over the last few decades

so you are a Nazi, as in nationalist.

do you have any idea what is entailed to become a nationalist country.
i would suggest you move to Venezuela or Cuba.

it doesn't work well if you wish to export goods and services.
It doesn't work well unless you want to cut yourself off completlety from the world and live behind a wall.
 

Count_Lothian

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Is nationalism the sole criterion for Nazism?

Hang on, I'm getting a call from Godwin.
Godwin's law does not aptly apply here.
But if that's all you got , go for it.

In order to nationalize a country ,such as Germany and create new money one needs to do what they did.
That's why the use of the word Nazi.

Are we to not use the word Nazi in any context now?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Godwin's law does not aptly apply here.
But if that's all you got , go for it.

In order to nationalize a country ,such as Germany and create new money one needs to do what they did.
That's why the use of the word Nazi.

Are we to not use the word Nazi in any context now?
Use it in any context you please.

Nice red herrings and strawmen. Two more informal logical fallacies to check off the list.
 

Count_Lothian

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Use it in any context you please.

Nice red herrings and strawmen. Two more informal logical fallacies to check off the list.
lol...
good one...

The point I was so horribly attempting to make was that nationalism does not work in this world.

The lesson from Nazi Germany is a viable source.

In order to rally the people into a frenzy that would overthrow any semblance of civility and living in this world with the wrold, one needs to radically challenge the status quo to say the least.

The Nazi accomplished this. But in order for it to work they need to become rulers of all their neighbors.

In the end , it can't happen.

America is trying the ?British scheme and is failing miserably at it. They are going broke trying to control oil, and orchestrate foreign policy.

The world no longer cares for america, and it does not realize it lost it's lustre and mystique.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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lol...
good one...

The point I was so horribly attempting to make was that nationalism does not work in this world.

The lesson from Nazi Germany is a viable source.

In order to rally the people into a frenzy that would overthrow any semblance of civility and living in this world with the wrold, one needs to radically challenge the status quo to say the least.

The Nazi accomplished this. But in order for it to work they need to become rulers of all their neighbors.

In the end , it can't happen.
Nationalism is like most other things. Some is good. Too much, not so good.

America is trying the ?British scheme and is failing miserably at it. They are going broke trying to control oil, and orchestrate foreign policy.

The world no longer cares for america, and it does not realize it lost it's lustre and mystique.
"America" doesn't know what the heck it's trying to do. Which is pretty much a recipe for failing miserably. If we were as cocksure and bloodyminded as the Germans in the 30s and 40s, or the Brits pretty much forever, we'd be more effective.
 

darkbeaver

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Oh dear Canada has slipped in the eyes of a couple of leftards. Meanwhile in the real world Canada's fiscal position is near the top. Whose opinion is more important?
Our fiscal position is right next to uncle shams deadbeat butt and when the balloon bursts we'll be covered in
dung cus eighty percent of our miserable dollar is backed by American currency. And that's the real world bud not the beer commercial you're singin. insert fockin smiley
 

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Hell hath no fury as a frustrated american!!!

Not frustrated. I enjoy this actually. Been here a lot longer than you and do you think you're the first moron I've dealt with?


Oh well ,lets go slumming with the insult crowd.

After your kool-aid comment you expect to gain the moral high ground? Wrong.

I've learned quite quickly in forums when you touch reality, a reality that sets off a nerve, an insult will follow from the lesser man.
Especially when he knows there is truth to what one says .

And you led off with one. What does that say for you?

Well that's gratitude for you. Canada over all, with what we have as an army did quite well.Compared to the trillions you spend on your military economy Canada pales in comparison . And yet we did quite well in subduing the enemy and protecting it's barbaric society.

Well that's moving the goal post for you. Retreating from the "Canada did all the heavy lifting" to what you posted above.


No thanks. I am well aware of Canada's contribution.

We did not initiate what caused 9/11, but we did try to help our neighbor.

That is correct. And Canadians died that day as well.

You lied about WMD in Iraq, and we did not go there,that time

Too bad... you missed the win!

But being the good neighbor we lost treasure and spent billions on this Afghanistan war.

And we helped in your war with Libya. Badabing!

There was a time for many a year that we headed the campaign , and did most of the heavy lifting for quite some time.

No, you never did head the campaign and never did heavier lifting than the US even with Iraq going on. That's why I said you know little about the topic.

If you wish to disgrace that fact , fine , knock yourself out.

I'll disgrace you for your ignorance.



Where did i say otherwise. Your misquoting me due to your guilt. Your patriotism has been destroyed by what your government has done.

My patriotism is as strong as ever. USA BABY!

Ahhhh, i see ...first you misquote me and show your guilt and try to say you did much for their society, and now due to the abject failure in Afghanistan , especially after Canada has left it to your devices, you blame their culture.
sad.....very sad....but hey there is more to this smacking about from this guilt ridden american.

Oh brother... after you left it to us? It was all perfect and I bet they loved Canada.

Give your head a shake.


I did not realize we were responsable for destroying Libya. I do know we helped get rid of Khadaffi and his regime.

You most certainly did. Canada led the way and helped assassinate the leader of another country. Proud?

In the first Iraq war, you won't find this online anymore just a falsehood, CIA admitted on CNN they used a women to lie about Iraqi soldiers stealing incubators from a Kuwaiti hospital. The following head of CIA admitted on CNN they paid her to do this short piece of propaganda that was splashed all over the media in the western world every ten minutes . His words were that sometimes the american people need to be fooled for their own good.

I have witness to this and know someone who was in the very hospital in Kuwait City when they watched this propaganda unfold on television. Pointdexter died near the end of Desert Storm and his replacement is the one who spoke on CNN.

What does that have to do with Saddam invading Kuwait?

Ashamed you missed that one?

The next lie was the WMD's Saddam was supposed to have and his involvement with Al Qaeda.
You may stand by the fact your still looking for the WMD's and can't as of yet prove he was working with Al Qaeda .

Poor intelligence.

As to the rest of that garbage, why should I respond to stuff I do not or have not ever believe in? Saddam working with Al Queda. Al Queda would have killed Saddam just like any other secular leader. Just like they're trying to over throw the Syrian Govt.

what are your thoughts on Viet Nam?

LMAO. Typical retard. Nowhere else to go.

The world no longer cares for america, and it does not realize it lost it's lustre and mystique.

So you're a hater.

You feel lacking because you're Canadian unlike most Canadians.

This forum used to be filled with guys like you.

You're like Scott the D*** from South Park.
 

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A major flaw is that we, as a nation, embrace every leftard, earth-ranger, eco-lobby that seeks to undermine the entire economy
they can seek, no problem, as long as they don't succeed we are good... it's about balance shift a little to the left, you will feel better... :p
 

darkbeaver

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lol...
good one...

The point I was so horribly attempting to make was that nationalism does not work in this world.

It sure does, notice the anti national crowds howling and spitting all these years against it (nationalism) the fear is real and fear gets things done. Since no other ism seems to work on this world I see no reason to exclude nationalism from available models. The fix has to start somewhere, why not stick with what works. It's extranationalism that prevails at the moment anyway, deal with it first. The future is in the past.
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