Canada's Liberals headed for third-place finish

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Canada's Liberals headed for third-place finish

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gr8ZugeSfOjClJdLIqhDHhtX93_A

OTTAWA (AFP) — Canada's once-mighty Liberals risk finishing in third place in a hotly ideological election, behind the ruling Conservatives and the leftist New Democrats, according to the latest poll Tuesday.

The Liberals ruled Canada for most of the past century but were relegated to the role of official opposition in 2006.

In the first weeks of this campaign, support for the Liberal Party dropped to 23 percent while the lesser New Democrats saw a revival at 19 percent, said polling firm Ekos.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives meanwhile are now daring to dream of their first majority in Parliament, leading far ahead in public opinion with 38 percent.

The latest tracking "shows a dramatic tightening in the race for second spot, with the New Democrats now within striking distance of overtaking the Liberals," said Ekos president Frank Graves.

"Although it is clear that the Liberals retain a small edge, on some days the difference is within the margin of error," he said.

In other surveys, the Liberal Party scored better, but in all polling their leader Stephane Dion trailed New Democrat Party leader Jack Layton by a few points and far behind Harper in respondents' choice for prime minister.

"These trends only need to continue another few days for the NDP to pass the Liberals," commented Graves.

Such would be a humiliating defeat for the Liberals trying desperately to rebuild following a devastating scandal that ended 12 consecutive years in power and helped elect Harper's minority Conservatives in January 2006.

"If the alarm bells are not ringing already at Liberal headquarters, they should now," said Graves. "Jack Layton is simply connecting better with voters than Stephane Dion at this stage of the campaign."

Indeed, Dion has struggled to sell voters on his key election plank -- an environmental plan to introduce a carbon tax that Harper claims would add undue stress on a shaky economy.
Lacking charisma and handicapped by his troubles speaking in English, Dion, whose first language is French, has also been unable to alter the Conservatives' portrayal of him as a feeble and indecisive leader.

An academic and former environment minister, his come-from-behind win at the 2006 Liberal leadership convention surprised all.

BOOMer, you are full of it. If the election were held right now, the PCs would get 38 percent of the seats, the Liberals 31, the NDP 17, I can see the Liberals making this a much closer race. But, as someone said, "The only true poll is on election day".
 

talloola

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I would love to see the NDP as the opposition party, so I will watch my local ridings, as the
Conservative and NDP candidates run so close, so I will hold my thoughts till the time comes, 'maybe conservative, maybe NDP', we'll see, definitely not liberal, and they haven't
got a smell in B.C. anyway.
 

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BOOMer, you are full of it. If the election were held right now, the PCs would get 38 percent of the seats, the Liberals 31, the NDP 17, I can see the Liberals making this a much closer race. But, as someone said, "The only true poll is on election day".

I'm full of ****??

It's a ****ing news article you moron.. if you are taking issue with the news article, I suggest you complian to the AFP or maybe the CBC.

Don't shoot the messenger :angry3:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gr8ZugeSfOjClJdLIqhDHhtX93_A

Here is another news link showing the Conservatives with a clear lead from Reuters

http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAN1245787220080916

Gotta love polls.

btw, glad you are so sure of those polls. (Liberals 31%) I use to vote Liberal, last election voted Conservative.

This election I will be voting NDP. The Liberals are weak, Dion is a goof. There is not much difference between the Conservatives and Liberals... and people want "change." NDP is that change.
 
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remember that when these companies go..they always take the jobs with them. As for the tainted products..as long as people demand the cheapest..it's what they will get. Unfortunatley we all want a bargin. No one wants to pay $700 for a tv if they can get it for 200..ndp or not.

Speak for yourself. I don't demand the cheapest, I demand having a product that is worth it's value, is safe and will last for a decent period of time.

I will gladly pay $700 for a good functioning and quality TV, then to spend $200 on a similar TV that is bound to break down after a year and after that short warrenty wears off.

I am conservative, but I also buy local, try to look for North American products etc etc. but it's not always corporate company driven as you think.

Always, no..... Majority, yes.

If no one wants your product at your price when someone is cheaper..guess what Jack..your out of business

Business isn't as simple as price alone.... and having a higher price then the other guy is certainly not a set fact that your business will flunk. All one has to do is promote the quality of their product and how it is better, as well as worth more then the other, and that's that.

If what you say was true, then LG would have run Sony into the ground years ago.

Macs wouldn't exist today thanks to PC's lower costs.

Wal-Mart would be the only store to shop at.

But none of that is the case, because it's not as simple as the price tag.

Here's a little tid bit on that information about the knife sale by Peter McKay to China... pay paticular attention to reported complaints by consumers who thought what they got was still the product supplied from within Canada:

Actually this doesn't relate directly to the thread, so I will create a new thread and link to here shortly:

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/77189-pictou-firm-loses-military-contract.html#post987995
 
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Socrates the Greek

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They just did a snap poll on the radio out here (980 news talk) where as many people
as possible would call in, in a three minute period, unannounced ahead of time and here's
the results.
Conservatives = 77%
Liberals = 4%
NDP = all the rest...I didn't expect that level of support for the NDP.

Hey Tollala first of all CKNW are a bias self serving radio station. Second their polls mean nothing for the rest of Canada. BC HAS 3.5 million people and only 1 million votes, surely you don’t thing that 770000 people would vote Conservative you are dreaming in Technicolor…………………. Keep on that happy dream. :roll::roll::roll:
 
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Socrates the Greek

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Even if the monkey dressed up in silk, it's still a monkey...

That's my signature you moron.... had noting to do with the article. (however if the shoe fits...)

That is an old Mexican saying.. read blog link below for more info.. sorta like Lip Stick on a Pig, still a pig.

http://sanityfound.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/a-monkey-in-silk-is-a-monkey-no-less/http://sanityfound.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/a-monkey-in-silk-is-a-monkey-no-less/http://sanityfound.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/a-monkey-in-silk-is-a-monkey-no-less/

The way you posted your signature was close enough to insinuate that you were referring to Dion….. Next time make your self clear and one suggestion you appear to be calling everyone who happened to disagree with you a moron……… Were you abused as a little boy……??????
 

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The way you posted your signature was close enough to insinuate that you were referring to Dion….. Next time make your self clear and one suggestion you appear to be calling everyone who happened to disagree with you a moron……… Were you abused as a little boy……??????

Only abused since I have come here...

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/political-debates/76924-best-america-ii-mccain-obama.html

Seems "moron" is widely used by others here too... why take issue with my use of it alone, if it's such an issue maybe it should be a banned word?

btw, the ________________________ line seperates everyones signature. If that is to hard for someone to see and understand, then all I can say, what a m**** :)
 

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The way you posted your signature was close enough to insinuate that you were referring to Dion….. Next time make your self clear and one suggestion you appear to be calling everyone who happened to disagree with you a moron……… Were you abused as a little boy……??????
Insulting people who disagree with you, eh soc???
 

Socrates the Greek

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Insulting people who disagree with you, eh soc???

Hey Risus easy with the friendly fire…………………….he placed his signature right below Dion’s face and the insinuation when you see something like that, is that you or the poster refers to the image of Dion………………You want to call Dion a monkey why not simply say so…If you call that humor I think it sucks……. “you can dress a monkey in a silk suit and it is still a monkey”
 

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Hey Risus easy with the friendly fire…………………….he placed his signature right below Dion’s face and the insinuation when you see something like that, is that you or the poster refers to the image of Dion………………You want to call Dion a monkey why not simply say so…If you call that humor I think it sucks……. “you can dress a monkey in a silk suit and it is still a monkey”

Sock ... it's the site - and tradition in all computer documentation that places the signature in the bottom left corner of the page.

Is is so hard to say "Oops.... My mistake"? Da-aa-mn but you waste a lot of energy doubling your boo-boos by trying to make it look like the other guy's fault.
 

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Sock ... it's the site - and tradition in all computer documentation that places the signature in the bottom left corner of the page.

Is is so hard to say "Oops.... My mistake"? Da-aa-mn but you waste a lot of energy doubling your boo-boos by trying to make it look like the other guy's fault.

LW, I am aware on the location of the signature, THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNATURE MAKES THE EYE TRAVEL ON DION’S IMAGE AND THE IMAGE OF THE CARICATURE, AUTOMATICALLY INSINUATES THAT THE WORDING IS INTENDED TO COROLATION WITH THE IMAGE.. ……



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Even if the monkey dressed up in silk, it's still a monkey...
 
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B00Mer

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LW, I am aware on the location of the signature, THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNATURE MAKES THE EYE TRAVEL ON DION’S IMAGE AND THE IMAGE OF THE CARICATURE, AUTOMATICALLY INSINUATES THAT THE WORDING IS INTENDED TO COLORATION WITH THE IMAGE.. ……



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Even if the monkey dressed up in silk, it's still a monkey...

:lol: LOL. You know I didn't even think of it that way until you mentioned it, and now that you have it does fit nicely doesn't it.

Maybe you should vote NDP if it's that easy for you to associate Dion as a monkey.

Give it rest, I won't appoligize. Move on, get over it.
 

Socrates the Greek

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:lol: LOL. You know I didn't even think of it that way until you mentioned it, and now that you have it does fit nicely doesn't it.

Maybe you should vote NDP if it's that easy for you to associate Dion as a monkey.

Give it rest, I won't appoligize. Move on, get over it.

I am not looking for an apology, I am simply bothered by the perifery of your signiture and the images........
 

Risus

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Hey Risus easy with the friendly fire…………………….he placed his signature right below Dion’s face and the insinuation when you see something like that, is that you or the poster refers to the image of Dion………………You want to call Dion a monkey why not simply say so…If you call that humor I think it sucks……. “you can dress a monkey in a silk suit and it is still a monkey”
Give up Soc, you just keep on sounding more like a moron everytime you post. And ok, Dion is a monkey... :p
 

Zzarchov

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man, he totally does look like beaker... If he talks like beaker he might win my vote on pure nostalgic awesome.
 

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i read somewhere yesterday that someone wanted to make t-shirts with a pig wearing a sweater on it.
regardless of whatever party you are for, you gotta admit that would be hilarious to see.
sign me up!
 

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BOOMer, you are full of it. If the election were held right now, the PCs would get 38 percent of the seats, the Liberals 31, the NDP 17, I can see the Liberals making this a much closer race. But, as someone said, "The only true poll is on election day".

Nooooo

That might be the way it should be, but with the first-past-the-post system.....

Suffice to say the Liberal majorities between 1993 and 2004 were attained with between 37 and 41 percent of the votes cast.

With the left divided 3 ways, the CPC could score a majority with 38 percent......taking 55 or 60 percent of the seats.