Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

Cliffy

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Lynton Crosby abandons Harper

Crosby’s departure maybe the final nail in the Conservatives’ coffin, as they now trail the Liberals by seven percentage points, according to the latest Nanos poll.
Commentators believe that Stephen Harper’s decision to seek endorsements from Toronto’s controversial former mayor Rob Ford and his brother Doug, widely seen as a last desperate attempt by the Prime Minister to cling to power, caused Crosby to bail on the Tories.
“Betting their was a power struggle behind scenes and when someone suggested using the Ford family, Crosby jumped ship,” former Tory riding executive Tracey Kent tweeted.
Gauging by the reaction online to Crosby’s departure, Canadians do not seem to be missing the man who introduced racist and divisive politics into Canadian politics.
“It’s brand protection,” Michael Budd. “Crosby and Co can’t have neo-cons in other countries thinking racism won’t win them elections”


Lynton Crosby abandons Harper | ThinkPol
 

davesmom

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There was nothing personal in Cliff's post at all. Everything based in fact. Just go look at the actual legislation that has been passed. Take the time to read the new acts as they stand. Do not be a brain-dead peon with your head up Harper's ***. Actually do the research and reading of the legislation. I hope Steve has a nice life with his family but I do not trust him to run a drinking party at a distillery let alone set the future of this country for me and my children.



What's 'brain dead' is so many people getting their knickers in a knot about climate change and blaming the government for not doing anything. The truth is, as long as we want to maintain our extravagant lifestyles climate change will exist.
If government took measures to effectively control climate change there would be such an outcry from the public it would be heard around the world!
Nobody would be willing to restrict vehicular use, nobody would support controlling the number of flights that take of from the airports every few minutes, eliminate the manufacturing of products that pollute the environment or the packaging they are wrapped in.
We have a choice; we can continue to live like we do or we can go back in time and live without the things that damage the planet. it's that cut and dried.
So what's with blaming Harper? What did the Liberals do about it in the 14 years they governed? What is anyone else doing about it? They throw out plans for carbon tax and the like to make people think they are doing something useful but the truth is, nothing CAN be done about it.

Holy **** this is great!

MUST SEE

Hazel McCallion To Harper In New Liberal Ad: 'Stephen, Do I Look Scared To You?'

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AoTsne3QxM8



Maybe Hazel likes the idea of Justin as a 'boy toy'
I'm surprised about Hazel endorsing Trudeau; She never ran a deficit and always operated in the black. Now here she is gung ho about a 107 billion deficit!
 

B00Mer

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Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next gove

Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next government

Justin Trudeau's national campaign co-chair is stepping down after he sent a detailed email to people behind the Energy East pipeline with advice on how and when to lobby a new government — including a Liberal minority.

Earlier in the day the Liberals stood by Dan Gagnier, saying he did not break any ethical standards. But in a statement later Wednesday, Gagnier said he didn't want to be a distraction to the campaign.

"I deeply regret that the campaign has been affected by these negative, personal attacks," the statement reads.

"I have always conducted my business openly and in full accordance with the rules. In the best interests of the party, I have taken this decision. I continue to support Justin Trudeau and hope for a Liberal government on Oct. 19."


In a statement of its own, the Liberal party said it respects Gagnier's decision, but blames the controversy on the Conservatives and their "negative and mean-spirited politics."

In the email, a copy of which was obtained by The Canadian Press, Gagnier advises five TransCanada Corp. officials to target the right people in a new government as quickly as possible so they can help shape either Liberal or NDP decisions on a national energy strategy.

Such a lobbying effort would be needed to ensure the planned "in-service" dates of projects like Energy East aren't put at risk, the email said.

Getting this "early entry point" in any revisions to the rules governing the National Energy Board "is sensitive," but also an opportunity, it continues.

"If the premiers and the new PM want investment and jobs, they will have to provide a lead and an efficient time-frame for getting this done," Gagnier writes.

Near the end of the message, he notes that energy companies needed to act "uniformly" to work with a new government if the Conservatives lose the election on Oct. 19.

"An energy strategy for Canada is on the radar and we need a spear carrier for those in the industry who are part of the solution going forward rather than refusing to grasp the implications of a changing global reality," the email reads.

"The last point is critical as federal leadership and a discussion with premiers will take place early. This is where we can play and help them get things right."

Prior to his resignation, a Liberal spokeswoman said Gagnier's analysis in the email has "nothing to do with his volunteer role on the campaign," noting that he didn't advise Trudeau on energy issues.

"The analysis draws on his years of experience in public service, and is based on publicly available information describing possible scenarios that any new government may face," Zita Astravas said in an email.

"In all areas, we hold our campaign to the highest ethical standards. I would point out that both the Conservative and NDP campaigns include many consultants."

Gagnier has spent years in politics, including time working for the Privy Council Office, the central federal bureaucracy that supports the prime minister and cabinet.

He has also worked in the federal Department of Foreign Affairs and was twice chief of staff to former Quebec premier Jean Charest.

With only five days before election day, polls have put the Liberals and Conservatives in a tight race, with the Grits in sight of forming a minority government after Oct. 19.

Under the Constitution, Prime Minister Stephen Harper still has first dibs on forming a government should there be a hung Parliament where no one party has a majority. How that would happen, or how the Liberals or NDP would transition to a new government, is the focus of much of Gagnier's Oct. 12 email.

Gagnier also writes that a Liberal or NDP government would likely reduce the size of cabinet to about 25 ministers, which would make the finance minister a critical lobbying target.

Conservative campaign spokesman Stephen Lecce tried to link the email with past Liberal miscues, which occurred before Trudeau became an MP and, later, leader.

Lecce dismissed Trudeau and the Liberals as "a party run by elite insiders who sell their influence to the highest bidder to the detriment of taxpayers."

The argument that anyone could have written a similar analysis doesn't hold water, said the NDP's ethics critic, Charlie Angus.

The email suggests Gagnier was "signalling to his friends in 'Big Oil"' how to get in the good graces of the next government, should it not be Conservative, Angus said.

"It's a pretty lame excuse when you say anybody could have written this.... No, this was the co-chair of Trudeau's campaign," Angus said.

"Anybody could have written that, but nobody would have paid attention to it if a volunteer wrote it."

A spokesman for TransCanda said it wanted to get some "factual insight" into how to deal with the possible political scenarios that could arise after the election, and that it was provided.

"It is logical to assume that many companies and organizations would take similar steps in preparing for what the political landscape might look like after October 19th," James Millar said in an email.

"Whatever the outcome and whatever party is in power TransCanada will work with the Prime Minister and his government in a respectful and positive manner."

Source:: http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/c...air-advised-transcanada-on-lobbying-1.3271175
 

lone wolf

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Re: Ford brothers show support for Harper

Why not? Rob got more attention on American TV than Harper can ever hope for. Celebrity endorsement's always a good thing - even if that celebrity is a little bit cracked and crooked
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next

Will this be added to the official thread?
 

mentalfloss

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The Liberals have Ontario to thank for the reversal of fortunes. They are now expected to claim a whopping 72 seats across Canada’s most populous province, compared to 34 for the Conservatives and 15 for the NDP. It is in Ontario that Harper’s camp is “bleeding dramatically” with just days to go before Canadians head to the polls, Kay said.

Liberals continue to surge, widen lead in seat projections - National | Globalnews.ca
 

Cliffy

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Re: Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next

And if this bozo was a Conservative campaign co-chair, he would be heralded as a hero. BOOMerang, pull your head out of your butt.
 

Cliffy

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Re: Ford brothers show support for Harper

Will this be added to the official thread?
Only those posted by perceived lefties.

 

PoliticalNick

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Hey Boomer, why does the 3rd idiot get his own arrow in your picture? ;-)

Why not? Rob got more attention on American TV than Harper can ever hope for. Celebrity endorsement's always a good thing - even if that celebrity is a little bit cracked and crooked

Except Americans don't vote in Canada so why? What does it say about Herr Harper that he and his handlers think having a crackhead criminal endorse him is a good thing? Most reasonable people would see this as a negative thing.
 

captain morgan

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And if this bozo was a Conservative campaign co-chair, he would be heralded as a hero. BOOMerang, pull your head out of your butt.

Hilarious.. If this was a Conservative party member, you and Flossy would be starting dozens of threads, demanding recounts, pissing and moaning about corruption and lamenting how Canada is a dictatorship.

.... So much for the objective and non-partisan position that you pretend to represent
 

PoliticalNick

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The best quote from this election campaign yet. Libertarians are the only party dedicated to serving the citizens and restoring your rights and freedoms. All other parties are corporate puppets looking to maintain the status quo.

Your friends ask you what's libertarianism? Tell them that we defend all freedoms:

" I want gay married couples to be able to defend their marijuana with their guns. "
- Tim Moen, head of the libertarian party of Canada
 

Corduroy

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Re: Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next

And if this bozo was a Conservative campaign co-chair, he would be heralded as a hero. BOOMerang, pull your head out of your butt.

But why would a Conservative campaign co-chair advise the oil lobby on how to influence a Conservative government? That's the oil lobby advising the oil lobby on how to influence the oil lobby.
 

DaSleeper

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Re: Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next

But why would a Conservative campaign co-chair advise the oil lobby on how to influence a Conservative government? That's the oil lobby advising the oil lobby on how to influence the oil lobby.

Now, that's introducing more confusion in an already confused mind!
 

JLM

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What's 'brain dead' is so many people getting their knickers in a knot about climate change and blaming the government for not doing anything. The truth is, as long as we want to maintain our extravagant lifestyles climate change will exist.
If government took measures to effectively control climate change there would be such an outcry from the public it would be heard around the world!
Nobody would be willing to restrict vehicular use, nobody would support controlling the number of flights that take of from the airports every few minutes, eliminate the manufacturing of products that pollute the environment or the packaging they are wrapped in.
We have a choice; we can continue to live like we do or we can go back in time and live without the things that damage the planet. it's that cut and dried.
So what's with blaming Harper? What did the Liberals do about it in the 14 years they governed? What is anyone else doing about it? They throw out plans for carbon tax and the like to make people think they are doing something useful but the truth is, nothing CAN be done about it.





Maybe Hazel likes the idea of Justin as a 'boy toy'
I'm surprised about Hazel endorsing Trudeau; She never ran a deficit and always operated in the black. Now here she is gung ho about a 107 billion deficit!

You got it ALL right (correct) - Hazel's brain cells could also be a little suspect at age 94- just the fact Hazel can walk and talk is amazing in itself!