Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

Locutus

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'news'

you don't hear anything like that on the news in the GTA son. try watching the morning leads. it's a too cool, too celebrity hip place to be. people playing bubble shooter on their fones on the way to work, looking forward to bidding on olympics. new wynne toll lanes. popular priorities like that. social change and stuff eh wot.



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Lorrie GoldsteinVerified account ‏@sunlorrie

When I was growing up a story like this would have been huge news. Not any more: 2 dead, 3 injured in club shooting http://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/04/two-dead-three-injured-in-shooting-outside-toronto-club …
 

mentalfloss

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It's because people realize the population now dwarfs what it was before.

Well.. the people who don't waste their time getting fixated on those news stories realize that.
 

DaSleeper

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'news'

you don't hear anything like that on the news in the GTA son. try watching the morning leads. it's a too cool, too celebrity hip place to be. people playing bubble shooter on their fones on the way to work, looking forward to bidding on olympics. new wynne toll lanes. popular priorities like that. social change and stuff eh wot.



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Lorrie GoldsteinVerified account ‏@sunlorrie

When I was growing up a story like this would have been huge news. Not any more: 2 dead, 3 injured in club shooting http://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/04/two-dead-three-injured-in-shooting-outside-toronto-club …

Don't mind the boy....
He fixated on global warming and Harper........
 

Corduroy

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Many in BC are afraid of the NDP, which was probably why Christie Clark won a majority. The same can happen federally, which would give the Conservatives another majority.

They weren't afraid of the NDP in Alberta.


"Redistricted" - you learn sumpin new every day! :) :) What riding are you in now?

I'm not telling the crazies on here which riding I live in. ;)

Oh my.

NDP surges past Conservatives, Liberals in latest poll

NDP 39%
Conbots 28%
Lieberals 25%

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news...est-poll.html?referrer=http://t.co/ITjZutU0Sn

I don't usually watch the CBC but I watched Harper's announcement there. One of the analysts pointed out that Harper knows calling the election so earlier will hurt him, but only temporarily. They've done it in previous elections. As he said "they lose the first day" timing the election in a controversial way but the long campaign ultimately helps them. This NDP bump might be a result of that.

I thought Mulcair's speech was strong. Harper is defending the early campaign and Trudeau was late getting out the gate. If things don't spice up that NDP bump will just fizzle.
 

Locutus

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Liberal election war room super angry Harper called Trudeau "Justin"



justin

it's like on his campaign posters and little website man.



anyway...justin.

justin justin he's the man
 

JLM

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It would be interesting to know what those figures actually mean! In the past 6 months alone I've been a burden to the tune of 15 or 20 times that amount just for medical care and procedures, other people have accrued similar costs for education, some more similar costs via the court system, others over a period of a year or more through the welfare system. I would question the "fact" of Mulroney and Harper accounting for 3/4 of the debt as Pierre Trudeau alone ran up a debt equal to Mulroney's. Martin transferred his to the provinces, so that's off the Federal books. I'm suggesting there may be a little hyperbole there. (but it makes for a good cartoon) :)
 

JLM

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They all are. Thats what campaigning is.

'Fraid so, it's disappointing from supposedly mature people. I just wish they'd each tell us what THEY are going to do, like WHAT, WHERE, WHEN AND HOW MUCH AND f**k the 'assassinations'! I see the P.M. is even acting like a baby. Sheesh!
 

JLM

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The polling numbers are soft for all three parties, and, with two months to go, anything can happen. That said, I think the Liberals' greatest liability is Justin Trudeau's inexperience.

That said, I'm still thinking of the BC election, where Christie Clark was supposed to lose but ended up with a majority.

That's why I'm wondering why people haven't caught on already to how fickle these incessant polls are. Christy was 'losing' right up until the day of the election. :) I think the Liberals have big problems besides Jr. Like Ignatieff, Dion and Rae couldn't do anything for them either. Of course Jr.'s presence brings Pierre to mind, leaving some people with a bad taste. It will all be interesting as it unfolds, but I think at the "end of the day" things won't be a heck of a lot different than they are now, although Harper may lose the majority, which would probably be a good thing. He's getting a little too complacent.
 

mentalfloss

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Another Harper scam.


What’s wrong with Stephen Harper’s home reno tax credit? - The Globe and Mail
Home - The Globe and Mail

It’s too soon to say whether the idea of paying homeowners to fix up their homes will be a winner with voters. But it can be said for certain, right now, that the Home Renovation Tax Credit put forward on Tuesday by Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper is not a sound idea, economically or fiscally.

Mr. Harper says that, if re-elected, he will bring in a permanent tax break for homeowners. Do any renovations worth between $1,000 and $5,000, and you’ll get a tax credit worth 15 per cent of the value of the work. The Conservatives estimate this will cost about $1.5 billion a year.

The promise is a revival of the renovation tax credit the government introduced in 2009 – but that was a temporary, one-year, recession-fighting measure. The idea was to get stimulus money into the economy, quickly, by subsidizing Canadians into spending: If you agreed to spend a dollar, the government would give you 15 cents. In the middle of a global financial panic, it was a clever way of delivering stimulus.

But 2015 is not 2009. Absent a repeat of the worst downturn since the Great Depression, there’s no logic in reintroducing this crisis measure. And absent a state of perma-recession, there’s no call for making the tax break permanent.

And if Canada is, in fact, currently in a recession, this won’t do anything to ease it. Mr. Harper says the tax credit won’t come into effect until “mid-mandate,” or roughly two years from now. The tax measure is also regressive: Only homeowners are eligible, not renters. And it will be economically illogical, with the estimated $1.5-billion-a-year cost spent entirely on the housing and construction industry. Canada has long been seen as having an overheated housing sector; why subsidize even more spending?

It’s not as if other parties haven’t dabbled in this area. Back in 2010, NDP leader Tom Mulcair – then the party’s finance critic – called on the government to extend the one-year renovation tax break. And the Liberals and NDP in the past favoured programs that paid people to make their homes more energy-efficient. These often involved using taxpayer dollars to reward homeowners for saving money, something many would have done anyhow. Conservatives generally opposed these approaches and scaled them back or eliminated them after coming to power a decade ago. The Conservatives had the right idea then. Not anymore.

What’s wrong with Stephen Harper’s home reno tax credit? - The Globe and Mail