Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

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Nah, I'd probably find the temptation to be too great and would be wallowing in the trough up to my neck & might even drown in it! :) :) :) :)
Nah you just don't have a network to support you .
 

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How much responsibility are listed in that there charter ?


Well of course the Canada your father built ,centered around living in mud huts a eaking out a meager existence .


Simple solution is to stop blindly supporting one party or another .
If the whole electorate refused party politics we would have none .
Sadly it is much easier to spew Harper the dictator Trudeau the pretty little boy Mulchair the angry man and listen to none of them .


Gee if Duffy is causing PM Harper to loose sleep at night for a made up scandal that cost the people of Canada nothing , I wonder how much sleep PM Cretian lost over a scandal that cost Canadians millions ?

I think Duffy has cost us a few shekels and then add the shekels by Wallin, Peter MacKay & others and I think Harper and Chretien would probably be about even. Some of the Governors General have added a few piss pots full too.

I fail to believe there are that many naive or stupid Canadians.



Certainly you are willing to give that up as long as Omar is safe.

I'm not so sure about that! :) :)
 

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Well of course the Canada your father built ,centered around living in mud huts a eaking out a meager existence .
I was brought up in middle class suburbia. My father was head of international sales for Northern Electric (Northern Telecom), selling whole communications systems to countries like Turkey and Nigeria back in the 60s. I was climbing the ladder of success like a mad man until it dawned on me how futile and insane the game was and opted out of the system. The game is rigged and you ain't on the winning team.
 

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Why do you b*tch against Harper?....he's the one brought you pension income splitting...fool!

That's just one aspect of being a good Prime Minister. I also want a guy who is honest, and follows protocol. P.M.s have no f**King business trying to influence the judiciary process and with regards to Duffy there is something rotten going on. He's put our troops in jeopardy by divulging their identity and location. It's gotten to the point where he is only marginally better than Mulcair or Jr. We can do better and I don't want to vote for the Green Party. Does that clear things up for you? :)
 

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Five federal polls show tight 3-way race | The Chronicle Herald
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OTTAWA — “For the first time in Canadian political history, the NDP is in first place in a national public opinion poll.”

For newshounds watching the CBC’s national newscast on May 13, 1987, anchor Knowlton Nash’s declaration raised the prospect of a seismic shift in federal politics.

Word that New Democrats were leading with 37 per cent of popular support had created a “holiday atmosphere” at the NDP national caucus meeting in Ottawa that morning, Nash told his viewers.

Yet the footage from the day appears sedate compared with the carnival chaos inside the NDP’s federal caucus room earlier this month following Rachel Notley’s stunning provincial win in Alberta.

Notley’s unlikely NDP majority in Canada’s conservative heartland is credited with again boosting the Tom Mulcair-led federal NDP to the top of the leaderboard in national public opinion surveys.

No fewer than five surveys from three different pollsters now suggest a tight, three-way race has developed. A sixth suggests unrivalled NDP dominance in Quebec.

“For those in denial about the rise of the NDP, we would suggest that they consider abandoning that skepticism,” pollster Frank Graves of Ekos Research trumpeted in a recent release.

“It is real — get over it.”

The proportion of Canadians who would consider voting NDP is at a 12-month high and currently in a statistical tie with the Liberals, Nik Nanos of Nanos Research said in an interview.

“The key takeaway from the Alberta election is that it’s created goodwill for the party.”

Almost 30 years have passed since that last big public opinion surge by the federal New Democrats, making comparisons problematic.

The Ed Broadbent-led party of 1987 was at 37 per cent among decided voters, marginally ahead of the Liberals at 36 and Progressive Conservatives at 25 — a lead that was to rise to 41 per cent by July that year.

Yet in the subsequent election of November 1988, Brian Mulroney’s Conservatives claimed a second straight majority, winning 43 per cent of the popular vote. The NDP finished third with 20 per cent of all votes cast, still enough to elect 43 MPs for the party’s best showing to date — one not eclipsed until 2011, when Jack Layton’s NDP won 103 seats with 30.6 per cent of the popular vote.

Of course, surveys in May can’t predict an election outcome in October, pollsters warn.

“This is the one risk for the New Democrats,” said Nanos. “It’s a bit early to do a victory lap.

“If this polling situation had occurred on Labour Day weekend before the (Oct. 19) election, it would be a game-changer.”

Momentum is one thing but profile is another, said Jamey Heath, a former NDP research director who is no longer employed by the party. Getting a share of the polling lead will make people take a second look at New Democrats.

If shibboleths about it being too radical, anti-business and bad for economic growth were overcome, it was still viewed as a protest party that couldn’t win, said Heath.

“What we’re seeing now in public opinion polls is that they really undermine the latter part of that argument — that the NDP can’t win — and, in the course of that, cause people to look at what the NDP really stands for.”

Be it francophone voters in Quebec or dyed-in-the-wool Alberta Tories, he added, “the more instances there are of sort of ‘unusual suspects’ seeing themselves as comfortable with the NDP, then that has a ripple effect.”

It is uncommon for provincial political events to have much impact on federal party fortunes, said former Liberal party pollster Michael Marzolini of Pollara Strategic Insights, and when they do it is more often a negative in his experience.

Mulcair, like Notley in Alberta, must still win the contest as the preferred agent of change for those wishing to oust an entrenched incumbent.

“Why would he be seen to be more likely to do that because Rachel Notley won a government in Alberta?” asked Marzolini.

The real question, however, concerns public engagement in political surveys when the voting public isn’t yet tuned in.

Nanos describes Canadian voters as being in a “quasi-hibernation” that’s only occasionally broken. The stunning Alberta election result was enough to disturb that slumber.

“They’re wondering what everyone else is wondering: What does this mean for the federal election?” said Nanos. “No one knows yet.”

A national election call boosts the usual 25 per cent of people who pay at least some attention to politics to upwards of 60 per cent, said Marzolini. That’s why none of the three major party leaders — including Prime Minister Stephen Harper — ought to be losing sleep over the polls just yet.

“There’s going to be a massive reset button being pushed at some point when the election is called,” he said.

“Everybody’s going to start paying attention and kicking the tires.”

Five federal polls show tight 3-way race | The Chronicle Herald
 

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Timing of Peter MacKay's departure politically damaging

"It seems a lot of people are abandoning Stephen Harper's ship these days," Mulcair quipped during a speech in Toronto after the news broke.

More than 30 Conservative MPs are not running in the next election — a big number, even if it is, as the government says, a natural turnover.

And the timing is certainly bad. As Clement told The House, all ministers were instructed to tell Prime Minister Stephen Harper months ago if they planned not to run in the fall election. Planning is paramount in any campaign, especially one expected to be so closely contested.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/timing-of-peter-mackay-s-departure-politically-damaging-1.3093969
 

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Timing of Peter MacKay's departure politically damaging

"It seems a lot of people are abandoning Stephen Harper's ship these days," Mulcair quipped during a speech in Toronto after the news broke.

More than 30 Conservative MPs are not running in the next election — a big number, even if it is, as the government says, a natural turnover.

And the timing is certainly bad. As Clement told The House, all ministers were instructed to tell Prime Minister Stephen Harper months ago if they planned not to run in the fall election. Planning is paramount in any campaign, especially one expected to be so closely contested.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/timing-of-peter-mackay-s-departure-politically-damaging-1.3093969

It's almost like Steve is committing political suicide. Apparently Peter is held in high esteem throughout the Maritimes and on election day Harper will likely need every one of those seats. His "hard on" for Khadr isn't going to endear him to too many people.
 

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It's almost like Steve is committing political suicide. Apparently Peter is held in high esteem throughout the Maritimes and on election day Harper will likely need every one of those seats. His "hard on" for Khadr isn't going to endear him to too many people.

Can you say Prime Minister Mulcair.