Canada spending $850 million per year to settle immigrants, stop the madness

[Ariadne]

So let's not take in too many Asians who want to resist becoming Canadians, with the assistance of Canadian agitaors. Asians are traditional people that wish to use modern technology to continue things with as little change as possible. Aside from all Asians hating each other, can you think of an Asian country where women's rights are considered important? Hardly fits in with "Asian values." Perhaps they might in a few centuries when they get over their animositites.

And you were speaking French! The same parochial mentality that insists on Arret for stopsigns and not Stop. I guess they don't have a clue how bad their French is. I never did try, but I could have ordered a coffee in Montreal to see what happens.

Whatever is spoken in Quebec is a very old French dialect that has been bastardized in Canada for a couple of hundred years. I was traveling in Europe with my mom when I was about 21. She was trying to get the bus driver to drop me off at a summer house, but he couldn't understand a word she was saying because her Dutch was from 30 years earlier and he spoke a Southern dialect. We had to sort it out in English. She was trying to ditch me for a few days.

My grandmother was born in Surabaja, which can be considered some part of Asia ... but I was born with blue eyes and blond hair. I can't think of an Asian country where the women's rights are respected. She was born in 1877 and did not lack for anything, so even though she was a woman she lived a respected life.

 

[winespius]

Surbaja is in Java Indonesia...despite being predominately muslim women have it pretty good there in general. It could be due to the colonial Dutch influence..

 

[petros]

Indosnesia has a rapidly growing middle class. Bellys too. They eat a lot of Aussie beef.

 

[winespius]

When I lived there the middle class was very small...it was filthy rich and dirt poor...and overpopulation ensures that the dirt poor class is not getting smaller...

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Canaada obviously takes in too few Mexican and Latin American immigrants. Whatever the US border patrol catches on the Rio Grande, they should ship to Canada. Many are quite happy to take manual labour jobs that seem to go begging here. And they cost nothing! Free. Gratis. Carumba.

Immigration policy has become a plaything of clueless multiculturalists.

 

[petros]

Canaada obviously takes in too few Mexican and Latin American immigrants. Whatever the US border patrol catches on the Rio Grande, they should ship to Canada. Many are quite happy to take manual labour jobs that seem to go begging here. And they cost nothing! Free. Gratis. Carumba.

Immigration policy has become a plaything of clueless multiculturalists.

Why run the border when you can just ask the Harper Socialist Govt for a permit?

 

[DurkaDurka]

As long and the unemployment rate is high (8-15%) in this country immigration should stop, immigrant services, and family "reunification" program abolished..

You have a point with certain classes of immigrants but there are jobs that need to be filled here in Canada and if we had the supply we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Canaada obviously takes in too few Mexican and Latin American immigrants. Whatever the US border patrol catches on the Rio Grande, they should ship to Canada. Many are quite happy to take manual labour jobs that seem to go begging here. And they cost nothing! Free. Gratis. Carumba.

Immigration policy has become a plaything of clueless multiculturalists.

Do you think that someone earning minimum wage is able to support him/her selves without some kind of government support? Especially cities like Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver etc? The average rent for a one bedroom is easily $900/m. You have a pipe dream going on in regards to what people can just "get up and do"

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Do you think that someone earning minimum wage is able to support him/her selves without some kind of government support? Especially cities like Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver etc? The average rent for a one bedroom is easily $900/m. You have a pipe dream going on in regards to what people can just "get up and do"

How do people do it now?

Many low income people need support. Business should be happy to support the people that clean their offices. Not the immigration dept. Immigration doesn't pay $850 million per year to working people, but for settlement and language classes, because Asian immigrants need more help. That $850 mil could be reduced significantly with more Mexican and Latin American immigrants, and better spent on social housing.

 

[DurkaDurka]

How do people do it now?

Many low income people need support. Business should be happy to support the people that clean their offices. Not the immigration dept. Immigration doesn't pay $850 million per year to working people, but for settlement and language classes, because Asian immigrants need more help. That $850 mil could be reduced significantly with more Mexican and Latin American immigrants, and better spent on social housing.

Do you really think the re-location class of immigrants would be lessened with Latino families? If anything, we should be cutting mexico off if we want "Canadian jobs"

 

[petros]

Do you really think the re-location class of immigrants would be lessened with Latino families? If anything, we should be cutting mexico off if we want "Canadian jobs"

Emigration...if the lazy Canadian won't emigrate to build the infastructure western Canada needs then Americans and Mexicans will immigrate.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Do you really think the re-location class of immigrants would be lessened with Latino families? If anything, we should be cutting mexico off if we want "Canadian jobs"

Yes, obviously. Millions of Mexicans have adjusted in the USA just fine over the past decades. It would be the same here. Mexicans would take the labouring jobs because compared to what they get back home, they coud live comfortably, and they do. The Canadian immigration policy complex is a joke. Take in one Mexican, and one less Asian/African, we could save about $3000 a year I reckon.

According to this table from from StatsCan, Mexico is not even on the list of top ten foreign born peoples in Canada. Asia is the big source, not Latin America or Mexico.

Table 1 Top 10 countries of birth of recent immigrants

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Good tables on this web page discussing how immigrants unemployment levels are worse than the Canadian born average, and their average incomes have declined from 1980-2000. Some groups do well, as one would statistically expect, but overall, a drop.

Canada Employment Statistics: Immigrants' Earnings Job search difficulties

 

[AbtFet]

What's the contribution to the economy by immigrants? It's rather large I might think. Our best doctors, dentists, teachers etc are immigrants.
Their contribution probably far exceeds 850 million a year.

 

[Durry]

Our best doctors, dentists, teachers etc are immigrants.

No, your wrong, you have no basis for this statement.

Like most of our athletes, they are mostly Canadian born !!
Get you facts straight.

 

[AbtFet]

Don't get offended by facts.
Canadian doctors rather work in the USA and make more money.
We'd have no doctors if it wasn't for immigrants.

 

[Durry]

We'd have no doctors if it wasn't for immigrants.

Your wrong again, got proof ??

If immigrants were so great for this country, how come we have very few in our military?? Like to take, but not give,,,,,eh!!

 

[AbtFet]

Maybe they're smart

 

[Durry]

Maybe they're smart

Well, if you think taking and not giving anything back is smart!!! well nothing more I can say,, errr are you an Indian immigrant by chance???

 

[AbtFet]

You think joining the military is the only ways to give back? A military which in modern days only fights for corporate interests?

 

[petros]

I like supplying the minerals that make a nation great, strong, and able to protect it's self. Somebody else can take it from there once I've done my part whether it goes commercial or military.

I've given a toe to this country and stuck by working with Canadian companies in foreign lands. I could have went for more money elsewhere.

What have you given Durry?

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

What's the contribution to the economy by immigrants? It's rather large I might think. Our best doctors, dentists, teachers etc are immigrants. Their contribution probably far exceeds 850 million a year.

This is always some vague calculation. The general benefits of these newcomers is so great that any amount spent, is worth it. But not lately as immigration as become a misguided social program. Some people have the idea, that Canada just wouldn't exist if it weren't for immigrants. That we depend on them for our survival and prosperity. They supplement, fill gaps. Right now, if we ended immigration, Canada would be fine. Time to end immigration fallacies.