Canada spending $850 million per year to settle immigrants, stop the madness

Ariadne

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Oh that is silly. I had an English teacher in high school who was educated at Oxford. Except for his dark skin you couldn't tell him from any other well educated Englishman. He immigrated from England, where many of our immigrants come from. Besides that, Canada was built by immigrants so some folks are blowing smoke out their butts. Too bad the indians didn't have that attitude in 1492, eh!

I was responding to this remark: "Our best doctors, dentists, teachers etc are immigrants." That doesn't mean that I'm saying that all immigrants in Canada are no good. It means I'm disputing the comment that they are the best.

A couple of weeks ago I went to the doctor at the walk in clinic with two concerns. I had a bit of a sore throat and have an unusual mark on my arm. The doctor was an immigrant with an unidentifiable accent. He took a throat swab, gave me a prescription for amoxicillin, gave me a cortisone cream for the mark and sent me on my way. I asked if I should fill the antibiotic prescription (without looking at what it was for) and he said yes, I should start taking it immediately.

I didn't. Instead, I asked the receptionist when the swab results would be back. I phoned a few days later and said that I was about to fill the prescription but noticed that it was for amoxicillin and since I'm allergic to penicillin - which is on my chart - I would need something different. I also asked about the test results. The results were negative, but I still had a bit of a sore throat so the receptionist said I should come in to see a different doctor. The second doctor I saw was not an immigrant. He said that I had a bit of a lingering virus that should clear up in a few days with the usual salt water gargle ... etc. Regarding the mark on my arm, he said not to put a cortisone cream on it because it would change the appearance, that instead I should see a dermatologist and that person should see the mark without it being faded with cream treatment.

Who do you think I trusted? Who do you think I thought was the better doctor?
 

ironsides

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Immigrants are all fine, they should be allowed, but treating them Royally is just plain stupid. In the U.S. we have Welfare Housing Projects, here is a example. - And some of you think we are not doing enough. Like to see your country do as much. By the way, I think we are nuts to offer so much, no wonder our Social Security is running out.


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dumpthemonarchy

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I was responding to this remark: "Our best doctors, dentists, teachers etc are immigrants." That doesn't mean that I'm saying that all immigrants in Canada are no good. It means I'm disputing the comment that they are the best.

A couple of weeks ago I went to the doctor at the walk in clinic with two concerns. I had a bit of a sore throat and have an unusual mark on my arm. The doctor was an immigrant with an unidentifiable accent. He took a throat swab, gave me a prescription for amoxicillin, gave me a cortisone cream for the mark and sent me on my way. I asked if I should fill the antibiotic prescription (without looking at what it was for) and he said yes, I should start taking it immediately.

I didn't. Instead, I asked the receptionist when the swab results would be back. I phoned a few days later and said that I was about to fill the prescription but noticed that it was for amoxicillin and since I'm allergic to penicillin - which is on my chart - I would need something different. I also asked about the test results. The results were negative, but I still had a bit of a sore throat so the receptionist said I should come in to see a different doctor. The second doctor I saw was not an immigrant. He said that I had a bit of a lingering virus that should clear up in a few days with the usual salt water gargle ... etc. Regarding the mark on my arm, he said not to put a cortisone cream on it because it would change the appearance, that instead I should see a dermatologist and that person should see the mark without it being faded with cream treatment.

Who do you think I trusted? Who do you think I thought was the better doctor?

Doctors like everyone else fall into habits and some are good for us. When you visit a Canadian born doctor who has seen the same ailments over and over, he tends to find the simplest and best solution because he has seen this problem many times before. New doctors from any foreign country need to find all this out. They have a learning curve and it can be years or decades long. Because what a doctor learned in his own country is not quickly forgotten.

Some immigrants make great professionals, but not all. I really dislike the sentiment that immigrants are the best in Canada. This is a political agenda I do not support.

Canada was indeed built by immigrants...from the UK, Europe and the US.....since the lunatic trudeau and his ilk opened the floodgates with the stupid multicult idea things have gone downhill....

Caanda was not build by immigrants. Why? Because once you are born here you are not an immigrant and you cannot be deported. Canada was built/made/created by Canadians. Any other answer is incorrect.
 

petros

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Caanda was not build by immigrants. Why? Because once you are born here you are not an immigrant and you cannot be deported. Canada was built/made/created by Canadians. Any other answer is incorrect.
Is that why my grandfather was hired by the CPR because he wasn't an immigrant that they needed to open the West and spoke 4 languages that the CPR agents couldn't and then became Canadian shortly after the NWT became SK in 1906 8 years after immigrating here?

I want his chunk of the $850 million plus interest I'm owed.
 

Tonington

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Caanda was not build by immigrants. Why? Because once you are born here you are not an immigrant and you cannot be deported. Canada was built/made/created by Canadians. Any other answer is incorrect.

The Canada you know today wouldn't exist without immigrants. We're not a bunch of inbred folks descendant from original settlers. Canada very much was built by immigration. The West in particular. It wasn't people from Ontario, or Quebec, or Nova Scotia, or Prince Edward Island. It was families like my great great grandfather and his family who settled the West. They sold everything they owned in Romania, and moved to Canada where 160 acres could be purchased for $10, with improvements done over a period of some years. They settled in Twelve Mile Lake Saskatchewan, along with a number of other families. They built a small village, and called it Săt, which in Romanian means settlement.

I suppose today the xenophobes would be all up in arms about the immigrants and their failure to integrate immediately...yet that's how a great portion of our country was built and populated.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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The Canada you know today wouldn't exist without immigrants. We're not a bunch of inbred folks descendant from original settlers. Canada very much was built by immigration. The West in particular. It wasn't people from Ontario, or Quebec, or Nova Scotia, or Prince Edward Island. It was families like my great great grandfather and his family who settled the west. They sold everything they owned in Romania, and moved to Canada where 160 acres could be purchased for $10, with improvements done over a period of some years. They settled in Twelve Mile Lake Saskatchewan, along with a number of other families. They built a small village, which is Romanian is called a Săt, for settlement.

I suppose today the xenophobes would be all up in arms about the immigrants and their failure to integrate immediately...yet that's how a great portion of our country was built and populated.

Immigrants made, and continue to make, important contributions to Canada. Contribution is the key word here. The original settlers did not make Canada as we know it, that took decades and later generations.

People have moved all over the world and made countries. Yawn. The next generation, 2-3-4-5 and so on know where they grow up, they don't know the old country any more, its customs and habits, never visit it, they lose the accent. Presto, a new man and woman are made. I don't think Britain, Italy, USA or Ireland are the best countries in the world, I think Canada is. I'm a Canadian, what else can I think?
 

Durry

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A couple of weeks ago I went to the doctor at the walk in clinic with two concerns. I had a bit of a sore throat and have an unusual mark on my arm. The doctor was an immigrant with an unidentifiable accent. He took a throat swab, gave me a prescription for amoxicillin, gave me a cortisone cream for the mark and sent me on my way. I asked if I should fill the antibiotic prescription (without looking at what it was for) and he said yes, I should start taking it immediately.

I didn't. Instead, I asked the receptionist when the swab results would be back. I phoned a few days later and said that I was about to fill the prescription but noticed that it was for amoxicillin and since I'm allergic to penicillin - which is on my chart - I would need something different. I also asked about the test results. The results were negative, but I still had a bit of a sore throat so the receptionist said I should come in to see a different doctor. The second doctor I saw was not an immigrant. He said that I had a bit of a lingering virus that should clear up in a few days with the usual salt water gargle ... etc. Regarding the mark on my arm, he said not to put a cortisone cream on it because it would change the appearance, that instead I should see a dermatologist and that person should see the mark without it being faded with cream treatment.
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This is a pretty common occurrence with immigrant doctors. Me and some of my friends have all had similar experiences. Also, many of them you can't understand their english, I think many of them mask their English because they cannot really explain the problem to you because they really don't know .

I recently went to walk in dental clinic, the immigrant dentist hardly knew how to position himself in the next next to me so that he could do a regular dental check on me. After he did the dental check, which took him about 20 seconds compared to at least 5 minutes from prevous checks, he proceeded to tell me that I should have all my fillings redone. Imagine, meets me once and tells me to replace all my fillings,,,,what an idiot !!

I think the only immigrants that should be allowed to be doctors here should from either the US or UK. The others should have to go thru our universities before being accepted here.
 

petros

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Some of us travel a lot and often have to reside in different cites for weeks or months, walk ins are often your only choice.
Plan ahead and ask your GP for a reference to good GP in the city you are going to work in. I'll sit in ER for 6 hours before you'll get me to use a walk in clinic.

Here is the perfect example of how ethnic diversity in the medical community can benefit. I was working in South America and came home really sick. All the locals had no idea what it was was. After a few days of "riding out the flu" things really bad so I went to see my Dr but she was doing Dr's Without Borders so there was a fill in Dr. Without hesitation he said "you have a parasite" wrote an Rx and 12hrs later I was eating and drinking without it coming up or having to spend hours on the throne.