Canada must pull its troops out by 2011, says Ignatieff
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None of us would have to be in Afganistan if it wasn't for the yankees and their stupig foreign affairs policies and hypocritical ignorant attitudes that got the taliban ticked off with them in the first place. Let the yankees sort it out....
I thought the Chicken Little avatar was quite funny too. Does Dark Beaver offence of being called Stone Head - I think not, DB seems a very mature person who can see the rational. It is not my fault SF is the way they are.
The Context in which you use something is quite different for each posting.. At the end of the post you used Capitals which in essence you where screaming at me.
You might feel comfortable using out of context names for people on this board and that is your prerogative. It does not make it right just because you believe so and being "mature" you would think you did not have to resort to such tactics period.
That said I am not required to subject myself to such behaviour by anyone here. That is my choice.
From this article today, it appears we really do make our own enemies (and - silly me - I thought they wanted us there to help.)
Angry villagers blame Canadians for explosion that killed two Afghan children
at 10:26 on February 23, 2009, EDT.
THE CANADIAN PRESS
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - A Panjwaii district elder is accusing Canadian troops in Afghanistan of leaving behind an unexploded shell that has killed two children in a village set aside for the handicapped.
The explosion today prompted a furious demonstration by dozens of people outside of the provincial council office in Kandahar city.
The blood-spattered bodies of two boys were on display from the open back of a small, wooden taxi as the angry crowd chanted: "Death to Canadians."
In a statement to the provincial police chief, a villager elder is blaming Canadian troops for the tragedy.
The Canadian military has yet to formally respond to the allegations.
The blast apparently occurred at the Mohammed Bin Rashid Village - named for its founder, the ruler of Dubai - about 15 kilometres outside the city.
From this article today, it appears we really do make our own enemies (and - silly me - I thought they wanted us there to help.)
They have never "wanted" us there. We invited ourselves to the party and refuse to leave
What exactly are we gaining as Canadians by staying? To kill more Afghani's and in turn be killed? For what?
They have never "wanted" us there. We invited ourselves to the party and refuse to leave
What exactly are we gaining as Canadians by staying? To kill more Afghani's and in turn be killed? For what?
Regional control. Nothing more nothing less. The Himalayias are a treasure chest of resources just as important as the oil under the Steppes of the "Stans".
Several oil and gas feilds have already been discovered by geologists in Afghanistan. For every bomb that drops from the sky another seismic reading is taken. it is a cheap and effective way of doing mass exploration surveys without the notice of the local clown sitting afront a TV in the west.
I know; I heard the same thing. but I can't remember who it was who said they wanted us there. Was it Karzai, America's former choice for president? Although, now even McKay is mean-mouthing him. Seems like a change is imminent. Anyone ask the Afghanis?
The majority of Canadians according to you want out of the world because just about everything is against what they want, and just who are they. How about doing a first (U.S. included) and finishing a war. No one seems to have a real end game for anything anymore. End the Taliban problem once and for all. (at least leave them with the ability to attend school without being blown up. Enough hiding and blaming others for the worlds woes. END GAME
I read the article today also. To me it sounds like they are just blaming the last group of troops that sed the practice range. The area is apparently a mine field that the kids should not have been in in the first place. I suppose the best thing that could be done (if the troops have to stay) would be to put some effort into clearing the field of mines so soldiers could salvage unexploded shells. I know I would not send a man into a known mine field to get an unexploded shell.
Canadians actually want to rejoin the world, shed of US dictates. It is the US that needs to re-evaluate it's policy.
How many countries "in the world" are actually in Afghanistan or will be at the end of the year. Iraq? Same question
Are the "taliban" a uniquely Canadian problem or are they an American representation of "the bogeyman" Are they a problem at all?
If the US has a problem, we don't need to go and "hold their hand whilst they stamp their little feet and grind their teeth" about it
They should "man up" and deal with there own problems - starting with their own paranoid delusions
Afghanistan will not fix the permanent loss of face in Vietnam, so get over it
Only the troops leave in 2011. The NGO and contractors will fill the gap and their pockets after that point.
Strangeness at it's acme....
No matter how brutal the war or how strict the regime there is always a bottle of Coca Cola available.
Strangeness at it's acme....
No matter how brutal the war or how strict the regime there is always a bottle of Coca Cola available.
First of all, Afghanistan is a UN Mandated NATO mission........therefore the world is involved.
Secondly, the Taliban, when they ruled Afghanistan, were one of the worst regimes on earth........mistreatment of women being top of their list of goodies, with destruction of ancient wonders just behind.....
Thirdly, they sheltered and supplied aid and support to terror groups that attacked us. That is US as in North American, the USA and her closest ally, without reason. Then the Taliban were given every opportunity to hand over the guilty.....which they refused to do.....soooooooo, they reap the whirlwind.
Fourthly, do you have the slightest idea what you are defending????????? I don't expect Afghanistan to emerge as a liberal democracy, nobody with a brain does. But they are miles ahead when they are not dealing with the Taliban, who happily throw acid in the faces of young teenaged girls....because the dare attend school.
And I love you guys yapping about Vietnam.........first it was Iraq is Vietnam....what a joke THAT turned out to be!
What does Vietnam have to do with this?
Sorry. Those who supposedly attacked were Saudis and Egyptians funded by the US backed Saudi dictatorship with US embassy approved passports. That's common knowledge.
What role did the Taliban have in that? Beyond a few acres and some Saudi cash pay outs not much?
1. NATO does not encompass "the world"
2. It's their country, not ours. I'm sure there are things they find repulsive about Canada... but they don't bomb our kids into dust
3. Canada was never attacked. As for sheltering "terrorists" (your words), So did Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Indonesia.... the list is endless
4. I seem to know much more about what I'm talking about than some US stooge..
The US has to have "an enemy" or it''s foreign policy doesn't work. If ones not readily available, they'll create one (WMD anyone:roll
The reference to Vietnam/Iraq?Afghanistan is for the Americans to somehow feel vindicated in their own feeble minds that they actually influence something, but I see I "touched" a nerve
Go play with your guns... you'll feel better
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No, but the United Nations does.......
Which is why we didn't kick their ass BEFORE 9-11. (see below)
Territorially, no we weren't....although more than 20 Canadians died in 9-11. As well, we have at least three treaties with the USA that are mutual defence treaties.....an attack on one is considered an attack on all.....thus the WE were attacked.
Better a US "stooge" than a Taliban "stooge" :roll:..........at least I'm not taking the side of those killing Canadian soldiers.....
You think you know something????
You have a blind, unthinking, idiotic knee-jerk anti-American reaction to just about everything....an indication of the National Canadian Disease.......a sense of inferiority to our friends down south.....Luckily I seem to have escaped that, and can view them as equals.
I keep telling you morons, I don't play with guns.........
No, but the United Nations does.......
Which is why we didn't kick their ass BEFORE 9-11. (see below)
Territorially, no we weren't....although more than 20 Canadians died in 9-11. As well, we have at least three treaties with the USA that are mutual defence treaties.....an attack on one is considered an attack on all.....thus the WE were attacked.
Better a US "stooge" than a Taliban "stooge" :roll:..........at least I'm not taking the side of those killing Canadian soldiers.....
The US has to have "an enemy" or it''s foreign policy doesn't work. If ones not readily available, they'll create one (WMD anyone:roll
The reference to Vietnam/Iraq?Afghanistan is for the Americans to somehow feel vindicated in their own feeble minds that they actually influence something, but I see I "touched" a nerve
You think you know something????
You have a blind, unthinking, idiotic knee-jerk anti-American reaction to just about everything....an indication of the National Canadian Disease.......a sense of inferiority to our friends down south.....Luckily I seem to have escaped that, and can view them as equals.
I keep telling you morons, I don't play with guns.........
lol Guns are only tools. If people misuse them it isn't the fault of the gun.
Anyway, Canada isn't like the perception of the US or USSR or ... Canada generally doesn't go about warmongering for the sake of warmongering. We generally DO try to help people that can't help themselves against bullies.
Anyway, Canada isn't like the perception of the US or USSR or ... Canada generally doesn't go about warmongering for the sake of warmongering. We generally DO try to help people that can't help themselves against bullies.