Canada loses almost 20,000 jobs, the biggest drop in eight months

[Curious Cdn]

Maybe you should try having a job, instead of lecturing people on what it's like to have one.



Unifor is a terrible union, I have nothing good to say about it. I agree that we should be doing more with what we produce instead of shipping raw goods to be refined elsewhere.

There is now some hope that the Albertans may ignore Texas and start refining their own petroleum fractions ... value added! ... rather than selling the raw product to the Texas Gulf where they get all of the refining jobs. The Calgary oil men will view setting up petrochemical processing in Alberta as an assault on them. Maybe the NDP can actually do some good.

 

[DurkaDurka]

There is now some hope that the Albertans may ignore Texas and start refining their own petroleum fractions ... value added! ... rather than selling the raw product to the Texas Gulf where they get all of the refining jobs. The Calgary oil men will view setting up petrochemical processing in Alberta as an assault on them. Maybe the NDP can actually do some good.

Ok, I read the news and petro companies say its not economical to the refine crude in Alberta, is that due to geographic location??

 

[Curious Cdn]

Ok, I read the news and petro companies say its not economical to the refine crude in Alberta, is that due to geographic location??

I would say that it's like brewing beer in North America. The US breweries can swamp the Canadian market just by speeding up the machinery a little. That has already happened. There is so much refining capacity in the United States more and more of it clustered around the Gulf , that all they have to do is increase their output by say 10% and handle everything that Alberta produces. They don't even have to add more labour, probably. Truth be told, that applies to everything we do here, potentially.

 

[Walter]

The thread is about Canadian jobs. Walter is trying to turn it into a whine about Obama. That is also trolling.

Actually, the first mention of BHO was by his biggest fan boy, rodent. I was just correcting rodent's misinformation.

 

[Ludlow]

Actually Walter cain't be blamed he just listenin to the Rash who is convinced that the unemployment rate on this planet, as well as all the other planets in the universe, is Obama's fault as well.

 

[Walter]

Actually Walter cain't be blamed he just listenin to the Rash who is convinced that the unemployment rate on this planet, as well as all the other planets in the universe, is Obama's fault as well.

Another daft Lib post. You guys crack me up.

 

[Ludlow]

Another daft Lib post. You guys crack me up.

~We do what we can~ Line borrowed from Hoke Coleman played brilliantly by Morgan Freeman in that fine classic, "Driving Mrs. Daisy."

Hey now iffen it cracked you up why the red? Seems to me a chuckle or two would be worth at least a thumbs up try to be more considerate of us attention ho's.

 

[taxslave]

your brain is chock full of rat feces

that the best you can do when faced with a fact?

 

[pgs]

It would be a far better thing for foreigners to be bringing their money to buy our quality, value-added manufactured goods rather than Ice Caps at Tim's.

Certainly but if we just export our finished product and don't invite the neighbours to visit they might stop wanting to buy from us .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm smelling a "you're a 1%" jab.

Not bloody likely.

 

[pgs]

Agreed. They can though, create the conditions under which investors will set up shop, here and thus put more people to work. It works from time-to-time. Lower corporate tax rates help, some. We see jobs leaving here, like a whole GM shift from Oshawa (to Michigan) because some other jurisdiction has done a better job of luring investment.

But we don't want the Chinese investing in the oil sands .

I understand that there are lay-offs in the oil field but every day I hear of companies who are hiring. They're good jobs - not service sector jobs either. Jobs that pay well, have overtime (which is something else considering) with benefits. Some companies will train and are recruiting both men and women for these higher paying jobs (and yes, some are unionized).


A co-workers husband was laid off and looking for work. Sent out tons of resumes and not getting any responses. I gave her a list of companies who were looking and actively advertising for workers. All he needed to do is get his Class 3 license and he was working the day after he finished getting it. EI paid for the course. Now his new employer is going to send him on a crane course which means when he's finished he'll be making even more money. You see, he's willing to go the extra mile to ensure he becomes a valuable employee, building on the skills he already had.


There are jobs out there - just have to look and listen. If you don't have the skills, get them! EI will pay for the course if it means a job.


JMHO

Who wants a job when you will give me money for free .

 

[JLM]

walter compares obama to stalin

What's wrong with that? They are (were) both head honchos of large countries!

 

[pgs]

WElfare office is. Chock full of social workers with big paycheques and little real work to do.

Of course their job is finding creative ways to justify paying benefits to perfectly healthy fit people week after week and month after month .
They are valued clients after all .

 

[gopher]

Actually, the first mention of BHO was by his biggest fan boy, rodent. I was just correcting rodent's misinformation.

as usual, Harper fan boy Wally is full of shtt

20,000 job losses in Canada is the equivalent of 200,000 in the USA since our population is ten times bigger - goes to show you that your boy Harper is fcukking up your country

 

[pgs]

If I don't produce, there's another one behind me and I'm out on the street. I don't know where your information comes from ... a Unifor pamphlet, perhaps. Value added comes from activities like starting with ores and ending with cars. Every stage of the process pays a decent living for the layer upon layer of workers who perform the tasks and yield reasonable margins of profit, that genrate all sorts of ancillary activities in all directions.

... or you can buy it from the Chinese, who enrich themselves in the same manner.

p.s. I spent a summer on a railroad Steel Gang (laying continuous weld rail in the early '80's) in Saskatchewan and Alberta. I've never worked so hard in my life.

I think we used to make steel and even cars in Canada before we started to make wind mills .
But blame Harper .

Got one, thanks. Make more in a year than you will in your life.

Sucks to be you.

Is money worth selling your soul on an internet chat board ?

I would say that it's like brewing beer in North America. The US breweries can swamp the Canadian market just by speeding up the machinery a little. That has already happened. There is so much refining capacity in the United States more and more of it clustered around the Gulf , that all they have to do is increase their output by say 10% and handle everything that Alberta produces. They don't even have to add more labour, probably. Truth be told, that applies to everything we do here, potentially.

Real Canadians don't drink American swill . I mean beer .

as usual, Harper fan boy Wally is full of shtt

20,000 job losses in Canada is the equivalent of 200,000 in the USA since our population is ten times bigger - goes to show you that your boy Harper is fcukking up your country

I know Harper just ran up a 10 Trillion dollar deficit .

 

[JLM]

as usual, Harper fan boy Wally is full of shtt

20,000 job losses in Canada is the equivalent of 200,000 in the USA since our population is ten times bigger - goes to show you that your boy Harper is fcukking up your country

Then there's the old saying that "figures can lie and liars can figure".

 

[gopher]

pgs,

I know Harper just ran up a 10 Trillion dollar deficit .

"deficits don't matter"

so quit picking on Dicky Cheney

 

[JLM]

"deficits don't matter"

so quit picking on Dicky Cheney

I heard it was the other way round, debt doesn't matter, deficits do- they are what increases debt!

 

[gopher]

I heard it was the other way round, debt doesn't matter, deficits do- they are what increases debt!

... I guess that means we are on the short track to Armageddon ....


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[JLM]

... I guess that means we are on the short track to Armageddon ....


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THAT is a distinct possibility for a number of reasons. If debt is secured by owner ship it's not necessarily a bad thing, deficits can be an ongoing thing and have to be carefully watched.