“Canada is Indian land”

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"Indian Reservation" ("The Lament Of The Cherokee Reservation Indian") is a song written by John D. Loudermilk. It was first recorded in in 1959 by Marvin Rainwater, and released as "The Pale Faced Indian". Rainwater's MGM-release stayed unnoticed. The first hit version was a cover of 1968 by Don Fardon, a former member of The Sorrows and it went to #20 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 chart and #3 on the UK Singles Chart [1].

In 1971 Paul Revere & the Raiders released it on the Columbia Records label and it became #1 on the U.S. chart [2]. The RIAA gold certification followed on 30 June 1971, for selling over a million copies.

The song was later further covered by the Orlando Riva Sound.

A 1994 Country / Western song by Tim McGraw, Indian Outlaw, opens with part of the main "Cherokee People" chorus from Indian Reservation. The live version also uses the full chorus near the end of the song.
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* 1 Historical context
* 2 Music and lyric form
* 3 Notes
* 4 External links

[edit] Historical context

The song refers to the forcible removal and relocation of Cherokee people from southeastern states of the United States to territories west of the Mississippi River. This removal in the 1830s has been popularly referred to as the "Trail of Tears." It followed the Indian Removal Act of 1830. This action was part of a larger United States policy of Indian removal.

[edit] Music and lyric form

The song lyrics are under copyright from 1971; however, some excerpts can be explained in technical analysis, under the 1961 fair-use citation of the US Copyright Act (title 17, U. S. Code). [1]

The music is in a minor key, with sustained minor chords ending each phrase in the primary melody, while the electronic organ holds the melody line through a slow musical turn (turning of related notes) which ends each phrase, and emphasizes the ominous minor chords. Underneath the slow, paced melody, is a rhythmic, low "drum beat" in double-time, constantly, relentlessly pushing to follow along, but the melody continues its slow, deliberate pace above the drum beat.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080207191511AAympGq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Loudermilk

The took away our way of life...



...the tomahawk the bow and knife.

:)
I wonder how many Indians doing those late night attacks spke the same lingo and accent as Jihadi john?

If you are 'hinting' that the 'Brits' have issues with opium and heroin then I would agree that is the reason the song was such a hit over there
Peyoye and such are not addictive, you take then until the visions are done.
 

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The took away our way of life...



...the tomahawk the bow and knife.

:)
They took away our knee breeches and jackboots. Those bastards!

The song refers to the forcible removal and relocation of Cherokee people from southeastern states of the United States to territories west of the Mississippi River. This removal in the 1830s has been popularly referred to as the "Trail of Tears." It followed the Indian Removal Act of 1830. This action was part of a larger United States policy of Indian removal.
Um. . . no it doesn't. There's not a single word in the lyrics about the Trail of Tears. And Loudermilk was a fraud. You left out this little gem from the Wikipedia article you cited:

A well-known story surrounding one of Loudermilk's songs is that, when he was asked by the American Top 40 radio show about the origins of the Raider's hit song "Indian Reservation", he invented a story that he wrote the song after crashing his car in a blizzard and being kidnapped by Cherokee Indians. He claimed that they tortured him for days by piercing his spine with thin needles and only let him go after he promised to write a song about their plight.[citation needed] American Top 40 DJ Casey Kasem later announced this story while playing the "Indian Reservation" song on air. The story was later confirmed to be false and attributed to Loudermilk's imagination rather than an actual event.[citation needed]
 

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Put some campfires in the background and the song could be played at any pow-wow, this version has girls dancing in case you were thinking of marching with the boys. I don't think there is a law that says you hve to be Indian to sing about being an Indian. I'll look for some tunes they would have written.
Paul Revere & The Raiders-Kicks - Video Dailymotion
 

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Put some campfires in the background and the song could be played at any pow-wow, this version has girls dancing in case you were thinking of marching with the boys. I don't think there is a law that says you hve to be Indian to sing about being an Indian.
There certainly isn't. You're perfectly free to be a white lefty wannabe if that's what blows your loincloth up.
 

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Actually you aren't supposed to paste the whole article rather than it being a conspiracy with intentional deception.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKndSHRn37w
 

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There certainly isn't. You're perfectly free to be a white lefty wannabe if that's what blows your loincloth up.
Her loincloth, I thought accuracy mattered to you, or was that before the dividend check? History shows the west won the war and for an Indian to make it they would have to adopt the 'white-man's ways' and when they do they get slapped with a corruption charge and a new corrupt guy is put in place. If I am in error for not posting the 'whole' thing they what is leaving out the 'possible stab in the back some day' possibility that is the trademark of the ones who won the war and wrote the treaties. At what point do you catch on that there are no winners when playing with these fuks?
 

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Her loincloth, I thought accuracy mattered to you, or was that before the dividend check? History shows the west won the war and for an Indian to make it they would have to adopt the 'white-man's ways' and when they do they get slapped with a corruption charge and a new corrupt guy is put in place. If I am in error for not posting the 'whole' thing they what is leaving out the 'possible stab in the back some day' possibility that is the trademark of the ones who won the war and wrote the treaties. At what point do you catch on that there are no winners when playing with these fuks?
Decades ago. That's why I went to law school.
 

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I didn't paste the whole article, and one person isn't a conspiracy. The voices in your head don't count.
Now you want accurate replies by me without reading what you type as that is where the 'voices' come from, reading words. Do you have a certain time that you start to drink or do you wake up already in a drink?

You never travel alone, this isn't that kind of a place. The only town where every road has the label 'worst possible choice/answer'.

Actually that would be the one corn the 'corn maze' carved into the 10sq mi of swamp that has waterways and ice depending when you show up. GPS will get you out but it is also 'cheating'.
 

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The people who had a reason to complain were our great-great grandparents. Unless one has actually breathed their air and touched their reality, he/she has lost nothing. They still have the stories. I, as born here, have as much right to be here as anyone born here.
 

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Decades ago. That's why I went to law school.
Bullet still taste as sweet? Sometime the road less traveled gets you to more places eventually. If you went to trucker school would you react the same to a trucker joke as you would to a Lawyer joke?

In the shrink-like attempt to make you comfortable (falsely as it is for the shrink) in covering a difficult subject I'll use bankers as the parable version of what is wrong in Lawyerville. Some bankers are corrupt, not all bankers are corrupt but the odds are more in favor that the corrupt ones are from the honest banker ranks and they become corrupted over time rather than they enter the banking industry because they are corrupt and that is the best way to utilize that trait. Once it is corrupt the only fix is to change it. In a family that might mean no 3 generation follow the same 'business plan' and new businesses are taken on so that in 100 years you have 10 different experts in the 'family' from 10 different fields that are important in the way society runs, or you have 100 years of the same old, same old where only the mistakes are repeated rather than being weeded out as that is what happens when changes are made, the bad parts get left behind if at all possible.

Rule #1 in anything important, hire a Lawyer, the most expensive one you can afford, and pile on the insurance before you even open your mouth. Like my imaginary swamp land, the application gives me ideas to employ as I monkey around with my 3d drafting program where transformation of an existing canyon can turn it into a family park with zip lines and other such rides and the descent rates can still be applied so the line gives the right speed and such for it's location. Getting a properly written disclaimer would be a comfort to be if some need a 'gentle push' to get them going and insurance says they have to have theit hook up on the line but I better make triple sure the dead-man doesn't come out of the ground.

That still leaves secrecy and such if the plan was more detailed than just a single use of the canyon.

BTW, I win in that childish game of posting nonsensical (more than usual) lines as you are acting older than the 12 year old adult that some bring to this room.

The people who had a reason to complain were our great-great grandparents. Unless one has actually breathed their air and touched their reality, he/she has lost nothing. They still have the stories. I, as born here, have as much right to be here as anyone born here.
There was a pretty expansive effort put into making that not happen as the stories were supposed to go. The same failure shows up in other places but they seem clueless in catching on that people will not naturally do things that end up harming them and others aren't smart enough to do it through any other method other than total extermination. (another set of self induced problems)

We had guns, they didn't.
We had the desire to use the guns, they didn't.
We had been using that as the norm for 'how neighbors act' 100's of years before 1500AD. Dry-gulched would be an appropriate term that we now call pre-emptive defensive strikes deep into enemy territory.
 

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Canada, and Great Britain before that, has NEVER lived up to the requirements of a single treaty. Not ONE!

Let's start with the "Treaty of Paris", which ended the American Revolution. That treaty spelled out certain rights that the Native peoples had, including the right to go back and forth across the border between the United States and Canada, without hinderence. Their goods and chattels were to be allowed to accompany them, without any duties imposed on them.

The Supreme Court of Canada held that this provision has no meaning, as no specific legislation was ever passed to implement it.

If ONE provision of that treaty has no meaning, then NONE of that Treaty has any meaning, as the clauses of it were not allowed to be severed from the whole. Therefore, based on the ruling of the Supreme Court of Canada, a state of war still exists between Canada and the USA, and there is NO legal boundary between the two countries. The First Armored Division will attack at dawn!
[NOTE: The United States of America still implements the provisions concerning Native Peoples. Any person that is 50% Native, or higher, may freely move from Canada to the USA, may obtain a Social Security card, may work, and may bring their household goods into the USA without any duties or taxes.]

Most of the so called "Treaties" between Great Britain, and its successor Canada and the Native peoples were "signed" by someone chosen by the British as a "Chief", someone that could not read or understand English (or French), and who had no real authority to sign anything on behalf on the Native peoples.
 

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Canada, and Great Britain before that, has NEVER lived up to the requirements of a single treaty. Not ONE!

Let's start with the "Treaty of Paris", which ended the American Revolution. That treaty spelled out certain rights that the Native peoples had, including the right to go back and forth across the border between the United States and Canada, without hinderence. Their goods and chattels were to be allowed to accompany them, without any duties imposed on them.

The Supreme Court of Canada held that this provision has no meaning, as no specific legislation was ever passed to implement it.

If ONE provision of that treaty has no meaning, then NONE of that Treaty has any meaning, as the clauses of it were not allowed to be severed from the whole. Therefore, based on the ruling of the Supreme Court of Canada, a state of war still exists between Canada and the USA, and there is NO legal boundary between the two countries. The First Armored Division will attack at dawn!
[NOTE: The United States of America still implements the provisions concerning Native Peoples. Any person that is 50% Native, or higher, may freely move from Canada to the USA, may obtain a Social Security card, may work, and may bring their household goods into the USA without any duties or taxes.]

Most of the so called "Treaties" between Great Britain, and its successor Canada and the Native peoples were "signed" by someone chosen by the British as a "Chief", someone that could not read or understand English (or French), and who had no real authority to sign anything on behalf on the Native peoples.
I think You mean the Jay treaty which the Natives of Akwasasne use to base their right to bring cigarettes in from the US