Bush personnally authorized and signed 9-11.

[EagleSmack]

Sometimes, fire is the best weapon against fire. If holograms sound ludicrous to you, imagine how ludicrous the official story sounds. That the great United States Air Force allowed FOUR rogue airliners to jink around in guarded airspace is simply beyond belief.

How broad is this statement? The USAF didn't fly CAPS around the continental United States as there was no reason to. What happened on 9/11 was unexpected and nobody was sure what was going on. Were they supposed to start blasting airliners out of the sky as soon as the first airliner went off course?

But then again if you NEED and WANT to believe 9/11 was an inside job by Bush then I am once again wasting my time.

 

[lone wolf]

How broad is this statement? The USAF didn't fly CAPS around the continental United States as there was no reason to. What happened on 9/11 was unexpected and nobody was sure what was going on. Were they supposed to start blasting airliners out of the sky as soon as the first airliner went off course?

But then again if you NEED and WANT to believe 9/11 was an inside job by Bush then I am once again wasting my time.

When the military was notified by ATC of a real world situation, that narrows the statement down considerably. They knew what planes were in trouble. Man, they DO have you in the palms of their hands don't they. Even a Marine brainwash wears off sooner or later.

Did I say BY Bush? He only has brains enough to do what he's told. Yes, once again you are wasting your time. BTW - the shiney side goes OUT on your tinfoil hat to reflect away all the bad ideas and truths.

 

[EagleSmack]

When the military was notified by ATC of a real world situation, that narrows the statement down considerably. They knew what planes were in trouble. Man, they DO have you in the palms of their hands don't they. Even a Marine brainwash wears off sooner or later.

Did I say BY Bush? He only has brains enough to do what he's told. Yes, once again you are wasting your time. BTW - the shiney side goes OUT on your tinfoil hat to reflect away all the bad ideas and truths.

Ah yes...I forgot how you don't like to get called out on things. So upon hearing that planes may be hijacked the first response by the USAF is to shoot them down. Yeah...that is in the manual.

Marine or no Marine...this is common sense. It has nothing to do with brainwashing. It is funny how 9/11 conspiracists are. You would rather believe the FUN stuff than the facts. It is no fun believing what happened and what the perpetrators even admit to and celebrate. You conspiracists are taking away their thunder!

Of course whenever Bin Laden does a video saying why he did it...it is a CIA fake.

 

[lone wolf]

Why do you keep thinking I am you? I don't believe your official lie. You do. That makes one of us a fool....

If you were to present some logical facts, I would gladly accept the challenge. Sorry, but "Eag sez it's so" just isn't good enough - if you know what I mean.

 

[Praxius]

How broad is this statement? The USAF didn't fly CAPS around the continental United States as there was no reason to. What happened on 9/11 was unexpected and nobody was sure what was going on. Were they supposed to start blasting airliners out of the sky as soon as the first airliner went off course?

But then again if you NEED and WANT to believe 9/11 was an inside job by Bush then I am once again wasting my time.

Probably are... oh well.

But "What happened on 9/11 was unexpected and nobody was sure what was going on?" Are you serious? There has been countless documents released to the public since all this happened pointing to numerous warnings, targets, plans, this was very well know that it was going to happen.... and there is also an equal amount of documents showing that those in power either A) didn't bother to pay attention to the notices and warnings or B) They did know and chose to do nothing for whatever reason that may be.

The reasons for why or who did what and who was involved may still all be up in the air, but you simply can not claim that this was unexpected and nobody knew what was going on.... if that was true, then the intelligence agencies in the US are a lot worse then I originally thought.

 

[Praxius]

Ah yes...I forgot how you don't like to get called out on things. So upon hearing that planes may be hijacked the first response by the USAF is to shoot them down. Yeah...that is in the manual.

Marine or no Marine...this is common sense. It has nothing to do with brainwashing. It is funny how 9/11 conspiracists are. You would rather believe the FUN stuff than the facts. It is no fun believing what happened and what the perpetrators even admit to and celebrate. You conspiracists are taking away their thunder!

Of course whenever Bin Laden does a video saying why he did it...it is a CIA fake.

Could be, I mean we haven't actually seen Bin Laden for some time now, and only seem to get audio recording of his voice..... hell, for all we know that could just be Robbin Williams doing over his voice.

 

[Praxius]

Why do you keep thinking I am you? I don't believe your official lie. You do. That makes one of us a fool....

If you were to present some logical facts, I would gladly accept the challenge. Sorry, but "Eag sez it's so" just isn't good enough - if you know what I mean.

I know what you mean, as that's all that has been argued so far in this thread.... information and articles presented on one side, and the other side pointing fingers, screaming "Conspiracy Freaks" and not actually trying to refute the information provided..... certainly the best way to win people over to your argument, that's for sure :roll:

 

[EagleSmack]

Could be, I mean we haven't actually seen Bin Laden for some time now, and only seem to get audio recording of his voice..... hell, for all we know that could just be Robbin Williams doing over his voice.

Well there you go then... you should add this to the list of conspiracies.

 

[EagleSmack]

I know what you mean, as that's all that has been argued so far in this thread.... information and articles presented on one side, and the other side pointing fingers, screaming "Conspiracy Freaks" and not actually trying to refute the information provided..... certainly the best way to win people over to your argument, that's for sure :roll:

Do you think this is the first thread on 9/11 here? We keep going back to the well of information to refute this nonsense but it always comes back. So it is basically a waste of time and a good laugh.

Prax...you've sided with a guy who thinks those jets were holograms...you know that right?

 

[lone wolf]

Do you think this is the first thread on 9/11 here? We keep going back to the well of information to refute this nonsense but it always comes back. So it is basically a waste of time and a good laugh.

Prax...you've sided with a guy who thinks those jets were holograms...you know that right?

Eag.... You're an idiot! I have challenged you several times to post the quote where I clain those planes are holograms. Seems your widdle brain can't process a thought beyond "tab A into slot A. Warning: Do not sniff glue fumes" Again: Post the quote or screw off back to your imaginary world.

 

[EagleSmack]

Probably are... oh well.

But "What happened on 9/11 was unexpected and nobody was sure what was going on?" Are you serious? There has been countless documents released to the public since all this happened pointing to numerous warnings, targets, plans, this was very well know that it was going to happen.... and there is also an equal amount of documents showing that those in power either A) didn't bother to pay attention to the notices and warnings or B) They did know and chose to do nothing for whatever reason that may be.

So are you saying that we knew the events of 9/11 were going to happen and the US Govt. just ignored them? Or are you saying that after the event information on Al Queda operatives in the US taking flight lessons and pieces of info like that were ignored?

The reasons for why or who did what and who was involved may still all be up in the air, but you simply can not claim that this was unexpected and nobody knew what was going on.... if that was true, then the intelligence agencies in the US are a lot worse then I originally thought.

Well if you believe it to be an inside job I think the CIA/FBI ran a pretty successful mission don't you?

 

[EagleSmack]

Eag.... You're an idiot! I have challenged you several times to post the quote where I clain those planes are holograms. Seems your widdle brain can't process a thought beyond "tab A into slot A. Warning: Do not sniff glue fumes" Again: Post the quote or screw off back to your imaginary world.

Hey moron...did I say you?! Logic started the thread you dope and that is who has claimed that holograms were crashed into the WTC's. Who's the idiot now?

Keep your foot out of your mouth.

 

[lone wolf]

Hey moron...did I say you?! Logic started the thread you dope and that is who has claimed that holograms were crashed into the WTC's. Who's the idiot now?

Keep your foot out of your mouth.

Be a bit clearer when you hurl your crap then you won't have to look even stupider while you extract your arse from boot range. My foot doesn't have time to be in my mouth. It spends a lot of time dusting your tailfeathers. The "choosing sides" post was in response to mine re: Eag sez so isn't good enough.

 

[Logic 7]

Hey moron...did I say you?! Logic started the thread you dope and that is who has claimed that holograms were crashed into the WTC's. Who's the idiot now?

Keep your foot out of your mouth.

I am the one who says , MAYBE THEY HAVE USED HOLOGRAM, when i look at those videos, and knowing that most CNN video shot were fake, then yes , hologram is a possibilitie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOPx8bs_XWE&feature=related

 

[I think not]

I am the one who says , MAYBE THEY HAVE USED HOLOGRAM, when i look at those videos, and knowing that most CNN video shot were fake, then yes , hologram is a possibilitie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOPx8bs_XWE&feature=related

Well there you have it. Let's try arguing this point. Let's "prove" to Logic 7 that no way in hell holograms could have possibly "slammed" into the WTC. :roll:

 

[lone wolf]

Well there you have it. Let's try arguing this point. Let's "prove" to Logic 7 that no way in hell holograms could have possibly "slammed" into the WTC. :roll:

I wanna know why they didn't use a hologram to disguise the cruise missile before it hit the Pentagon;-)

 

[Praxius]

Do you think this is the first thread on 9/11 here?

Irrelevent... point out how the above makes no sense, or that the person interviewed is either lying or it never happened.

We keep going back to the well of information to refute this nonsense but it always comes back. So it is basically a waste of time and a good laugh.

Then why pop into the thread if it's a waste of time, a good laugh and nonsense? Is the above information something that was already posted before in the forums and debated?

Prax...you've sided with a guy who thinks those jets were holograms...you know that right?

I side with anyone who actually puts effort into presenting an argument and holds more sense then the opposing side of the argument.... since the opposing side has not presented anything at all to bring some foundation to their side of the argument, then by default, yes, I did side with him.... does that mean I believe holograms we're involved? Irrelevent, since holograms have nothing to do with this paticular debate.

Frig people, why can't you guys differentiate from threads and topics?

Is it so complicated?

Wait, don't bother answering that, since other things already seem to be complicated for some which are more trivial, so I guess it's a given.

Look, y'all might be in these forums for your own personal reasons, just like myself... my main reason for being in here (whether you care or not) is to see how people present their arguments in any given topic and to see how people win their arguments based on the information they provide to others.... so far, that's been sorely lacking that it's bleeding out of the arse.

I have my own personal positions on certain topics, and then there are other ones that I leave open and neutral, not just because in some situations I am no expert on the details and I want to actually "Know" something.... but also to see if someone can convience me that their side makes more sense then the other side. If they can't do this simple task, then they're not worth my time.

Perhaps that can clarify things a bit.... although I doubt it.

 

[I think not]

I wanna know why they didn't use a hologram to disguise the cruise missile before it hit the Pentagon;-)

Variety is the spice of life? :smile:

 

[EagleSmack]

Be a bit clearer when you hurl your crap then you won't have to look even stupider while you extract your arse from boot range. My foot doesn't have time to be in my mouth. It spends a lot of time dusting your tailfeathers. The "choosing sides" post was in response to mine re: Eag sez so isn't good enough.

I was responding to Prax. It had nothing to do with you.

Did you say holograms crashed into the WTC? No...so put your tail between your legs as you have so many times before. I wasn't responding to your "Eag sez" because it was moronic. Stop trying to defend an indefensible position and stop making an idiot of yourself.

 

[I think not]

Praxius,

I'm not quite sure what you're attempting to do here. If you don't like where the thread is going then don't participate, nobody dragged you into the conversation.

Sorry, but I cannot take someone seriously who believes there is even a REMOTE possibility holograms slammed into the WTC. That someone wired up 104 stories of a building during an alleged 12 hour power outage.

Logic 7's claims and statements do not have common sense, you cannot argue anything with someone without common sense.

I've argued even with lone wolf on a few things regarding 9/11, but I NEVER thought of not taking him seriously, he presents valid questions and expects REASONABLE answers.

You're trying to defend the indefensible.