Burning the Qur'an Places Canadian Soldiers at Risk

Goober

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nah, no he doesn't. not if it's legitimately putting people at risk.
Familiarize yourself with the US Constitution and Free Speech -

He has the right to do this - just as Nazi's have the right to parade if they so wish.

But remember what i have stated time and again - just because you have the right to do something does not necessarily make it right -
 

CUBert

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Where did you buy your crystal ball?

are you disagreeing with the american and canadian military generals that the Quran burning will put the troops in more danger?

Familiarize yourself with the US Constitution and Free Speech -

He has the right to do this - just as Nazi's have the right to parade if they so wish.

But remember what i have stated time and again - just because you have the right to do something does not necessarily make it right -

no , he doesn't have the right. nowhere in the constitution does it say "freedom of expression under any circumstance, even when it endangers other human life"
 

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are you disagreeing with the american and canadian military generals that the Quran burning will put the troops in more danger?



no , he doesn't have the right. nowhere in the constitution does it say "freedom of expression under any circumstance, even when it endangers other human life"

Then like I stated - Read up on Constitutional Cases before the SCC of the US - Then come back with an example - You are wrong -

Think on this for a moment - If it was illegal he would have been charged by now - Correct - And your answer is?????????????/
 

DaSleeper

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Even the pope diagrees with burning the quran but that doesn't mean it's illegal....crazy, but not illegal
And the troops are in danger whatever happens
 

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why would he be charged by now, he hasn't done anything yet. and it doesn't look like he will. as well i've read reports that he had been visited by the FBI...
 

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning_52

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — FBI agents visited Thursday with a minister of a small Florida church that plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11, as public safety became a paramount concern and President Barack Obama added his voice to the chorus of opposition.

And what happened - Diddly Squat -

They may harass him with threats of charges - but you can bet your bottom dollar on this - Some rights group - ACLU for one - or others will come to his defense and they will come out of the woodwork - and be lickety split at that - Far right conservatives will donate to his defense fund.

You have no concept as to how "Free Speech" is very well protected in the US and how people look upon that Right.

Yes I knew about the FBI visit - Did you as I suggested - Check the Free Speech cases that went to the US SCC.

Till then what you post is mere blather - and that is not meant to be rude - just the way free speech is in the US. You are thinking like a Canadian.
 

DaSleeper

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He Says that agents visited him and all of a sudden you beleive him????? do better than that
And even if they did it could be because he received threats
 

CUBert

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nothing happened because he didn't do anything. you can bet people will be calling for his head if his actions directly harm or result in the death of American citizens, or soldiers abroad.

He Says that agents visited him and all of a sudden you beleive him????? do better than that

The FBI spent about a half hour talking with Jones, but church spokesman Wayne Sapp would not disclose what they discussed. Agents leaving the church wouldn't talk to an Associated Press reporter.
it is fact that fbi agents visited him. what are you blabbering about?
 

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nothing happened because he didn't do anything. you can bet people will be calling for his head if his actions directly harm or kill American citizens, or soldiers abroad.


The question is and continues to be - Does he have the right - yes or no - Till then it is all blather and more blather - and yes I am sure more blather is to come - Come on - Prove me wrong. Double Dare Ya.

The glove has been thrown -

Do you dare to pick it up and doing so accept the challenge?
 

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of course he doesn't have the right. there is good reason to believe his actions will put other people at risk.
if his actions weren't putting anyone at risk then i'd say he has absolutely every right.

Hopefully someone can answer this question

Do you believe burning the Qu'ran is inciting and encouraging Muslims to riot?
 

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of course he doesn't have the right. there is good reason to believe his actions will put other people at risk.
if his actions weren't putting anyone at risk then i'd say he has absolutely every right.

Hopefully someone can answer this question

Do you believe burning the Qu'ran is inciting and encouraging Muslims to riot?


Hopefully some one can answer the question in the way you want it answered.

It has already been answered, you just do not agree with it.

Point - Have you read in an US News Reports that this was against the law - No - Do you think for one minute that they would overlook that point - No

So blather on with your belief that is it against the law - Which of course is wrong.
 

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"There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

– Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942
 

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No one has answered the question
Can you read - can you comprehend - He has the right to burn 1 or a thousand Quran - Right to Free Speech -

What is about the answer that has not already been answered. Oh yes - You are looking for someone to agree with you.

You are like those people that asks for advice or an opinion -

Then they do not like the advice or opinion received -

They then run around till they find someone that gives them the advice they want to hear -

Oh Glory be to God - Someone that gives me the advice I wanted to hear - T

hen they carry on with that advice -

Then they complain when it becomes all fuked up.

And to top it off they then complain about the person that gave them the advice, bad that it was.

Have you had a vasectomy?

"There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

– Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942
As well the US SCC has ruled you can burn flags, books and parade around spouting hate speech, much like Nazi's do. I remember the case where a Nazi party was denied a permit to march, somewhere in the US - The ACLU came to their defense - permit was issued -

Canadian and US Free Speech are similar yet completely different in many cases.