British MP banned from entering Canada

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Thanks for showing decisively just how twisted the "rocket" claims were. It shows clearly just who did not hold up their end of the ceasefire.

I guess its not so clear to some.

Back on topic:

Stop the ban on George Galloway! Defend free speech!
Defend free speech. Let George Galloway into Canada.
Stop Jason Kenney’s attack on civil liberties.


By now you will have heard that Jason Kenney, Canada's Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, has banned British MP George Galloway from entering Canada. Galloway is scheduled to speak in four cities during a pan-Canadian speaking tour from March 30 to April 2.

Kenney's decision to ban Galloway is an unprecedented attack on free speech and on the right to criticize our own government's foreign policy. Kenney's office has publicly stated that Galloway will be banned because of his views on the war in Afghanistan and because he represents a "threat to national security".

The ban follows Kenney's recent attacks on Canadian Arab and Muslim organizations and on Palestine solidarity campaigners for their criticism of Israel's war on Gaza and its treatment of Palestinians. In the last few days, Kenney unilaterally cut funding to the Canadian Arab Federation for its immigrant settlement program. Kenney also recently attacked students organizing Israeli Apartheid Week on campuses across Canada.

Kenney has attempted to silence their voices by accusing them of anti-Semitism, despite the wide range of support and participation of Jewish organizations and individuals in these Palestine solidarity events.

The organizers of Galloway's speaking tour – the Toronto Coalition to Stop the War, the Ottawa Peace Assembly, and Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights – condemn in the strongest terms Kenney's attack on free speech and our right to criticize our government's foreign policy. We call on all supporters of civil liberties to join us in challenging these attacks and in reversing Kenney's ban.

In the next few days, we will launch a pan-Canadian campaign to defend free speech in Canada and to reverse Kenney's ban. We call on you to join in this campaign to ensure Galloway's entry into Canada. We must organize now to ensure that all events where Galloway is scheduled to speak will proceed as planned.

Toronto Coalition to Stop the War



Galloway has his soapbox. I'm curoius to see where he will take this. I'm sure we will hear more from Galloway. I've been busy contacting people and putting the word out. If you care about our right to Free Speech, pass the information on....
 

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Galloway has his soapbox. I'm curoius to see where he will take this. I'm sure we will hear more from Galloway. I've been busy contacting people and putting the word out. If you care about our right to Free Speech, pass the information on....
Why do you insist on making this about something it isn't?

This isn't about free speech, nor anyone trying to censor him.

You can not prove that assertion at all...

This is about Galloway supporting terrorists, in a way you haven't even achieved to my knowledge.

He has financially supported them, he has called their crimes against innocent civilians, thus crimes against humanity, acts of "military heroism".

And yet you still support him and make fringe irrational statements like " If you care about our right to Free Speech, pass the information on"...

You've got to be kidding right?

Has the cheese off your cracker, finally hit the floor?

Show me where he's been silenced.

Can you still view his video's, his website, download transcripts of his speeches?

I can show you all his material. His freedom of speech, has not been infringed upon. His entry into Canada has. Lawfully and without malice.

I ask, you show cause and proof of malice. Because I can show where the Gov't has steadfastly denied entry to people who have committed similar acts, that you aren't crying about. In fact your would likely support their being barred.

If you fail to show cause, and/or malice, your argument is false and based solely on emotion and hyperbole.
 

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The man is not ineligible to enter Canada because of his opinion.

Ya, that's my point.

He is unable to enter Canada because he has financial ties to Hamas. A known terrorist group. He has condoned and supported acts of violence against Israel civilians.

Firstly, he has no financial ties to Hamas! Secondly, expressing an understanding of just why these acts take place does not mean that one condones or supports them (another spin tactic).

Sounds like you'd better put on your tin hat to protect yourself from all these "leftist" organizations:lol::lol:

Just the Facts

That's just foolish naive bravado.

Not at all. Sorry to hear about your family. I'll bet that, had they been able, they would have done everything in their power to resist or help others to resist. Perhaps they should be demanding their "right of return"? Oh yea, I'll bet they are not semi prisoners in refugee camps being told by their occupiers..."why can't you just be a good nigga and follow our rules?".

Note to moderator....overstated rhetoric only to make a point
 

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If you care about our right to Free Speech, pass the information on....

What does free speech have to do with anything? It's my understanding that nobody cares what idiotic bullsh*t this moron spews. It's the fact that he has financially supported terrorists and thus committed a criminal act according to Canadian law.

You obviously believe strongly that people should be able to donate to any and all terror groups in Canada. Why? Do you?

Perhaps if you argued to change the law instead of complaining that the government won't excuse your friend, you might actually appear to be somewhat credible.
 

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The man is not ineligible to enter Canada because of his opinion.

Ya, that's my point.
Thanx for proving my point you can not read or understand English...the word is...ineligible...

  • not eligible; "ineligible to vote"; "ineligible for retirement benefits"
  • prohibited by official rules; "an ineligible pass receiver"
    wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
He is unable to enter Canada because he has financial ties to Hamas. A known terrorist group. He has condoned and supported acts of violence against Israel civilians.

Firstly, he has no financial ties to Hamas! Secondly, expressing an understanding of just why these acts take place does not mean that one condones or supports them (another spin tactic).[/quote]He's on record stating the Hamas accredited suicide bombings of Israeli civilians is "military heroism".

That is hate speech as defined by Canadian, US and UN legalese.

Sounds like you'd better put on your tin hat to protect yourself from all these "leftist" organizations:lol::lol:

Just the Facts
You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in the head. You can not even read English.

That's just foolish naive bravado.

Not at all. Sorry to hear about your family. I'll bet that, had they been able, they would have done everything in their power to resist or help others to resist. Perhaps they should be demanding their "right of return"? Oh yea, I'll bet they are not semi prisoners in refugee camps being told by their occupiers..."why can't you just be a good nigga and follow our rules?".

Note to moderator....overstated rhetoric only to make a point
Rhetoric or not, imbecilic at best.
 

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It's the fact that he has financially supported terrorists and thus committed a criminal act according to Canadian law.

Care to show us just how he has "financially supported terrorists"?

You obviously believe strongly that people should be able to donate to any and all terror groups in Canada. Why? Do you?

And you're evidence for this is?
 

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It's the fact that he has financially supported terrorists and thus committed a criminal act according to Canadian law.

Care to show us just how he has "financially supported terrorists"?
The man has bragged about it openly. I'm trying to sift through the mindless chatter of the fringe masses to find the actual quote. But rest assured. It exists, he hasn't denied it anything he's spewed in regards to Canada as of yet.
You obviously believe strongly that people should be able to donate to any and all terror groups in Canada. Why? Do you?

And you're evidence for this is?
I love it when people so void of an answer, ask a question instead.:roll:
 

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He's on record stating the Hamas accredited suicide bombings of Israeli civilians is "military heroism".

Care to post an exact quote here so we can judge for ourselves whether or not you are quoting him out of context?

That is hate speech as defined by Canadian, US and UN legalese.

Firstly, we'd have to have the exact quote to make a decision. I've got news for you.

The US has virtually total free speech. IOW, even "hate" speech is allowed.

In Canada, I believe hate speech is defined as promoting genocide against a particular group (clearly Galloway is not doing this).

As for the UN, perhaps you can look this up for us to more clearly state their "law"?

So again, show us clearly just what Galloway said and show us clearly the laws that he is said to have broken. We are waiting.........zzzzzzz
 

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The man has bragged about it openly. I'n trying to sift through the mindless chatter of the fringe masses to find the actual quote. But rest assured. It exists, he hasn't denied it anything he's spewed in regards to Canada as of yet.

I'm a patient man. I can wait.......

You obviously believe strongly that people should be able to donate to any and all terror groups in Canada. Why? Do you?

And you're evidence for this is?

I love it when people so void of an answer, ask a question instead.

Ask a stupid question.....get a stupid answer
 

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He's on record stating the Hamas accredited suicide bombings of Israeli civilians is "military heroism".

Care to post an exact quote here so we can judge for ourselves whether or not you are quoting him out of context?

That is hate speech as defined by Canadian, US and UN legalese.

Firstly, we'd have to have the exact quote to make a decision. I've got news for you.

The US has virtually total free speech. IOW, even "hate" speech is allowed.

In Canada, I believe hate speech is defined as promoting genocide against a particular group (clearly Galloway is not doing this).

As for the UN, perhaps you can look this up for us to more clearly state their "law"?

So again, show us clearly just what Galloway said and show us clearly the laws that he is said to have broken. We are waiting.........zzzzzzz
You mean you're arguing this and have no idea what the facts are?

"Wise men speak, because they something to say. But fools speak, because they have to say something"

Again, proving my opinion of the people who flounder about topics such as these, have no idea what facts are.

Here's a trick OfM. Prove me wrong. Try Google. I here they have 'handicapped' sized lettering and easy to follow instructions.

 

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The man has bragged about it openly. I'n trying to sift through the mindless chatter of the fringe masses to find the actual quote. But rest assured. It exists, he hasn't denied it anything he's spewed in regards to Canada as of yet.

I'm a patient man. I can wait.......

You obviously believe strongly that people should be able to donate to any and all terror groups in Canada. Why? Do you?

And you're evidence for this is?

I love it when people so void of an answer, ask a question instead.

Ask a stupid question.....get a stupid answer
Spoken like someone who knows nothing of which upon they converse.

Thanx again for proving this is a true saying...

"Wise men speak, because they something to say. But fools speak, because they have to say something"

Not sarcasm.
 

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Care to show us just how he has "financially supported terrorists"?

If you can show me what difference it would make I'd be glad to. Mind you, I've spent enough time on forums with the likes of you and EAO to know it won't make a difference.

And you're evidence for this is?

This thread. Try and keep up. It's was a rather simple question and playing twister in some foolish attempt to sidestep it does nothing to help your cause.
 

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You mean you're arguing this and have no idea what the facts are?

You've made some ridiculous claims without any evidence whatever to back them up. If I claim I have elves in my garden, is it up to you to prove I don't?:lol::lol::lol:
 

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If you can show me what difference it would make I'd be glad to. Mind you, I've spent enough time on forums with the likes of you and EAO to know it won't make a difference.



This thread. Try and keep up. It's was a rather simple question and playing twister in some foolish attempt to sidestep it does nothing to help your cause.


 

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You mean you're arguing this and have no idea what the facts are?

You've made some ridiculous claims without any evidence whatever to back them up. If I claim I have elves in my garden, is it up to you to prove I don't?:lol::lol::lol:
Not as ridiculous as you and yours...

TORONTO — Canada has banned an outspoken anti-war British lawmaker from the country on [COLOR=#038258 ! important][COLOR=#038258 ! important]national [COLOR=#038258 ! important]security[/color][/color][/color] grounds, officials said Friday.
George Galloway is well known in Britain for his opposition to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. He was due to give a speech in Toronto on March 30.
A spokesman for Canadian Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said Canadian border officials made the decision because Galloway constitutes a national security threat.
The government will not overturn the decision for someone "who only recently bragged about providing financial support for Hamas, which is a banned terrorist organization in Canada," Alykhan Velshi said.
That's enough proof for me.

And since I've heard no mutterings about a libel or defamation of character suit in the works from Galloway.

I suspect, it is a correct and documented statement.

I much prefer getting quotes right from the horses mouth, ass, in this case. But like I tried to convey to you in an earlier post. It's hard to sift through the fringe BS at the moment. There's a ton of people like you out there babbling about the internet about this and to Google Galloway at the moment. Is tantamount to Google'ing the word 'porn'. Hard to find the stuff you want.

But at any rate. Your cheese awaits you on the floor. Still got your cracker?
 

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So the accusers of Galloway would rather quit than try to prove that their allegations have any merit whatever? Are you used to having claims like this go unchallenged?

The accusations, which, incidentally, are the whole reason for this thread.
 

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So the accusers of Galloway would rather quit than try to prove that their allegations have any merit whatever? Are you used to having claims like this go unchallenged?

The accusations, which, incidentally, are the whole reason for this thread.

Oops...you're to late...:lol:

And you're right about the thread topic. Who explained it to you?

But the 'merit's' there now. Prove it wrong.

I'm still waiting to see eao prove the Gov't acted in malice. I suspect I get that answer around the same time you figure out what a fact is.
 

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You mean you're arguing this and have no idea what the facts are?

You've made some ridiculous claims without any evidence whatever to back them up. If I claim I have elves in my garden, is it up to you to prove I don't?:lol::lol::lol:

Since you are new to this forum, perhaps we should clarify a few things to help prevent you from looking any more foolish than you already do. I'm not sure how other forums you have been to worked but here, we generally try and have a basic understanding of an issue before we come to a thread and start commenting or alternatively, we may come to the thread and announce that we have a limited understanding and ask for guidance or opinions to get a clearer picture.

Now, in this particular case, we aren't talking about elves in your garden. There is more information out there with regards to Galloway then you could shake a stick at and asking for "proof" of well documented claims, statements and positions is just plain silly. If I am to be constantly asked to prove that the sky is blue or the earth is flat so that you can participate fully in the conversations, I shant be doing that and I would suggest you try the forums at www.anally_obtuse_people.com