Boston Red Sox Win World Series

PoliticalNick

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Just a quick question of your stupidity BL. If there were only 26 sports at those games how did they hand out 46 golds to the US and 26..sorry 29 golds to the UK and all the other golds? Matbe the British education system is lacking but I would think there was far more than 26 sports.
 

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So this is day what of "well we can't be having you happy about a hometown team winning anything" childishness? Has it been a solid week yet?

Really, really laughable.

Hope you're having as much fun with it Eaglesmack as you seem to be. ;)

Yes it has and it keeps my World Series Champions Red Sox thread going! Four pages thus far!

I'm loving every post. It warms me to know how spastic he gets.

BTW... Saturday in Boston!



So ES, what about on a per-dollar basis?

No idea... really don't care.

Do you disagree that the US spends many times what other developed countries do on olympic athletes? We all know money makes a difference.

What was Canada's "Own the Podium" all about? People in glass houses Nick. lol

We know that professional vs amateur makes a difference.

Agreed

Are not all your athletes really professionals?

No

Don't they all attend university on scholarships and train full-time?

No... some are still in HS.

See?



Three 16 year olds, a 15 year old and an 18 year old.

Thanks for playing!

It is no different than the old Soviet Red-Army. I would like to see how things would come out if the amateur status was actually cared about and upheld. I'm not saying the US wouldn't do well, just they probably wouldn't do as well if they couldn't send 200 pros.

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The US would do just INCREDIBLE as they always did.
 

PoliticalNick

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The Own the Podium was actually in my mind when I asked. We tossed a few million at our athletes to fund training and we won a bunch more medals. I think the correlation between money and result is obvious if not entirely quantifiable.

Sorry pal but even you HS gymnasts are basically pros. They train hours a day 6 or 7 days a week. I'm sure most don't even attend regular school but have tutors or something like that.

BTW good job keeping your thread alive. It is much more exciting and entertaining than any baseball game.
 

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We are the Top Dog! We are superior to your cloudy dismal island in all aspects.

London Olympics Medal Count: U.S. Wins, And British Celebrate As Well


You're superior to us in nothing.

Just a quick question of your stupidity BL. If there were only 26 sports at those games how did they hand out 46 golds to the US and 26..sorry 29 golds to the UK and all the other golds? Matbe the British education system is lacking but I would think there was far more than 26 sports.

Me any many others disagree with you.

You can at least have done the necessary research to try and prove me wrong, but you obviously haven't.

Feeble, is all I say. Feeble.
 

EagleSmack

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The Own the Podium was actually in my mind when I asked. We tossed a few million at our athletes to fund training and we won a bunch more medals. I think the correlation between money and result is obvious if not entirely quantifiable.

Of course... better facilities...better recruiting... better coaches.

Sorry pal but even you HS gymnasts are basically pros. They train hours a day 6 or 7 days a week. I'm sure most don't even attend regular school but have tutors or something like that.
Sorry pal... Moving the goal post isn't going to help your case at all.

BTW good job keeping your thread alive. It is much more exciting and entertaining than any baseball game.
You mean this?

So exciting it was!



To bad you couldn't partake.

You're superior to us in nothing.

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We dominated your own Olympics. Mastered you... destroyed you in the Medal Count. The UK is too one dimensional and does not have the will and stamina that Americans have. We are far superior. We had more heart that even home field advantage could only get you third.

Plus the Red Sox are World Champions!

 

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I remember the House of David from the Ken Burn's series on Baseball on PBS. Great Depression era Baseball monks, but i think were Evangelicals rather than Catholics. I don't think many ballplayers today profess much in the way of faith, except in the Almighty Buck.. beards or no beards.

In a related topic a group, led by Warren Cromartie, is trying to get MLB back in Montreal. Montreal is a great sports town, and has a better baseball culture than Toronto. All it needs to succeed there is a traditional open air, dedicated baseball stadium.. DOWNTOWN.. near the Bell Centre.. so it can weave it into its sports culture. That damn Olympic Stadium buried the Expos.

Anyone got a billion dollars to spare.. $500M for a team.. $500M for a stadium.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...h-montreal-expos-seems-destined-to-strikeout/
 
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WHOOP!



In a related topic, a group in trying to get MLB back in Montreal. Montreal is a great sports town, and has a better baseball culture than Toronto. All it needs to succeed there is a traditional open air, dedicated baseball stadium.. DOWNTOWN.. near the Bell Centre.. so it can weave it into its sports culture.

Anyone got a billion dollars handy.. $500M for a team.. $500M for a stadium.

I miss the Expos
 

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Who knows? They may be back sooner than you think. The Marlins and Rays are not getting the turnouts (especially Tampa Bay, as they have a good team and are usually in the thick of things playoff-hunt-wise, yet they have so many empty seats. I read somewhere that there will be a new stadium built in Montreal, and that this could be the stepping stones for the Expos to return (they probably would have won the World Series in 2004 had it not been for the stupid strike). I'm a Jays fan, and I would love to see another Canadian team in the MLB.
 

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Who knows? They may be back sooner than you think. The Marlins and Rays are not getting the turnouts (especially Tampa Bay, as they have a good team and are usually in the thick of things playoff-hunt-wise, yet they have so many empty seats. I read somewhere that there will be a new stadium built in Montreal, and that this could be the stepping stones for the Expos to return (they probably would have won the World Series in 2004 had it not been for the stupid strike). I'm a Jays fan, and I would love to see another Canadian team in the MLB.

I went to a Marlins game a few years back. There were more people at my town's Little League Championship game.

I'd like to see the return of the Expos!

 

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I went to a Marlins game a few years back. There were more people at my town's Little League Championship game.

I'd like to see the return of the Expos!


The thing I remember most about any games played in the Tampa stadium is that there was an annoying heckler that sat behind home plate. There was a game a few years ago where all you could hear was his voice berating and heckling Eric Hinske. Fans like that annoy me.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Jeffrey Loria lost another team and the Expos returned (but not with that asswipe as the owner...he doesn't deserve ANY team).
 

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The thing I remember most about any games played in the Tampa stadium is that there was an annoying heckler that sat behind home plate. There was a game a few years ago where all you could hear was his voice berating and heckling Eric Hinske. Fans like that annoy me.

Are you sure he wasn't just talking in a normal voice and there were just a handful of people in the stadium? ;)

Kidding of course.

Hecklers and foul mouthed drunks ruin sporting events. I am with you there. Some stadiums are now implementing a text line to combat this. You send a text with your seat and section and Security heads that way.



Wouldn't it be ironic if Jeffrey Loria lost another team and the Expos returned (but not with that asswipe as the owner...he doesn't deserve ANY team).
The return of the Expos would be awesome. Maybe in the American League this time.
 

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Are you sure he wasn't just talking in a normal voice and there were just a handful of people in the stadium? ;)

Kidding of course.

Hecklers and foul mouthed drunks ruin sporting events. I am with you there. Some stadiums are now implementing a text line to combat this. You send a text with your seat and section and Security heads that way.



The return of the Expos would be awesome. Maybe in the American League this time.

Did you read about the fellow at the Blackhawks/Jets game that took the helmet off of the Winnipeg player's head and then stuck it on his own? Then a woman threw her beer on the same player! The guy ended up apologizing and making a donation to a charity (it looked sincere, he was very drunk at the game), but I didn't hear anything about the beer-chucking idiot.

I'm not sure if it would be in the American League. I guess it would depend on whether or not the former team was in the American League (if it was Tampa Bay for example), or how it would work with regards to team alignments (such as Houston moving to the American League this previous season).
 

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Did you read about the fellow at the Blackhawks/Jets game that took the helmet off of the Winnipeg player's head and then stuck it on his own? Then a woman threw her beer on the same player! The guy ended up apologizing and making a donation to a charity (it looked sincere, he was very drunk at the game), but I didn't hear anything about the beer-chucking idiot.


I didn't. But there are stories like that all over.


How can we forget this incident!


The Bruins going into the stands after fans in NY





I'm not sure if it would be in the American League. I guess it would depend on whether or not the former team was in the American League (if it was Tampa Bay for example), or how it would work with regards to team alignments (such as Houston moving to the American League this previous season).
Right... whichever team leaves... there the Expos would have to go.


EXPOS!


 

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Glavine, Maddux, and Thomas into the Hall of Fame!


Local media has spent the last 2 days crying over the fact that Jack Morris was denied entry into that elite group. This notwithstanding the fact that Lee Smith (who had FAR more saves than Hall of Famer Goose Gossage) was also denied and his name was never mentioned by these critics:

 

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Red Sox used Apple Watch to steal signs: Report
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 07:46 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 07:47 AM EDT
BOSTON — Looking for any edge in an age-old rivalry, the Boston Red Sox got called out in a high-tech sign-stealing scheme they ran on the New York Yankees.
The first-place Red Sox admitted to Major League Baseball that they used an Apple Watch to relay signals from opposing catchers to Boston players, The New York Times reported Tuesday. Sign stealing has long been a part of the game, but employing electronic gadgets to do it is against the rules.
MLB is looking into allegations levied by the Yankees after a series between the teams last month in Boston. The Times said the Red Sox told MLB investigators that Boston manager John Farrell, general Dave Dombrowski and other team executives were not aware of the operation, which had been going on for weeks.
Commissioner Rob Manfred, who was at Fenway Park on Tuesday night as part of a previously planned visit, said he wanted to get the matter resolved quickly. He didn’t comment about possible penalties.
“The only thing that I can tell you about repercussions is that to the extent that there was a violation on either side — and I’m not saying that there was — to the extent that there was a violation on either side, we are 100 per cent comfortable that it is not an ongoing issue — that if it happened, it is no longer happening,” he said.
This isn’t the first time a successful Boston-area sports franchise has been accused of cheating in recent years.
New England Patriots star Tom Brady was suspended four games by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell after the “Deflategate” investigation concluded the quarterback conspired to use illegally underinflated footballs in the 2015 AFC championship game. The Pats also were docked a first-round draft pick.
Years earlier, the five-time Super Bowl champions were caught videotaping signals being sent in by Jets coaches during a 2007 game — the Patriots lost a first-round pick in the 2008 draft and coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 in “Spygate.”
The Red Sox hold a narrow lead over the Yankees in the AL East race with a month left in the regular season. The teams don’t play again this season.
Farrell said he knew the rule.
“Electronic devices are not to be used in the dugout,” he said Tuesday before Boston hosted the Toronto Blue Jays. “But beyond that, the only thing I can say it’s a league matter at this point.”
Dombrowski said it was the first time a team he’d worked for had been formally accused of stealing signs.
“I’ve been in the game for 40 years. I’ve known of it for 40 years, sign stealing itself,” Dombrowski said. “I’ve known of people that I talk to that played back in the ’50’s that talked to me about sign stealing, so I do think sign stealing has been taking place for a long time. I will acknowledge that.”
The Times, according to unidentified sources, said the MLB probe started after Yankees general manager Brian Cashman filed a complaint with the commissioner’s office that included video. The newspaper said the video showed a member of Boston’s training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout and relaying a message to players.
“I think there was something that was suspected of going on,” Yankees outfielder Brett Gardner said before Tuesday night’s game in Baltimore.
The Times said the Red Sox filed a complaint Tuesday against the Yankees, alleging the club used a camera from its YES television network to steal opponents’ signs.
“No chance,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said.
Said Manfred: “I do believe that this is a charged situation from a competitive perspective, when you have the kind of rivalry that the Yankees and the Red Sox have. I guess it’s not shocking you could have charges and counter-charges like this.”
The Times said the Red Sox told MLB investigators that club personnel watched monitors and then electronically sent pitch signals to team trainers in the dugout, who relayed the information to players.
The newspaper said video showed Boston assistant athletic trainer Jon Jochim checking his Apple Watch and relaying the info to Red Sox players Brock Holt and second baseman Dustin Pedroia. The newspaper said one clip showed Pedroia passing along the intelligence to Boston outfielder Chris Young, who formerly played for the Yankees.
The Red Sox won two of three from the Yankees during the series Aug. 18-20. The Times reported that in the first game, after Boston first put a runner on second, Rafael Devers hit a home run. The Red Sox went 5 for 8 in that game when they had a runner at second and won 9-6.
Sign stealing to help hitters know what pitch is coming has long been a part of baseball lore. Often times it happens when a runner at second base peers in to see the catcher’s sign and then subtly flashes a signal — maybe a hand movement, or the positioning of his feet — to the batter to let him know whether the next pitch will be a fastball, curveball or something else.
The most famous example of sign stealing was a secret for almost a half-century. It took that long before it was positively revealed the New York Giants used a spyglass-and-buzzer system to relay pitch signals to their hitters during their famed 1951 chase of the Brooklyn Dodgers, which culminated with Bobby Thomson’s bottom-of-the-ninth, winning homer in the decisive Game 3 of their NL playoff.
Players are allowed to try to figure out the opponents’ signals on their own. Computers, cameras and electronics are not permitted.
To combat signs being stolen, teams often change their signals when an opposing runner reaches second base. Signs can change from batter to batter and even pitch to pitch — the Yankees are a team that frequently has its catcher go out to the mound to discuss with pitchers what to throw.
Electronics and video have become more a part of baseball and all sports in recent years. The increased usage has also put leagues on alert over how to control improprieties in many areas.
In July 2016, a federal judge sentenced the former scouting director of the St. Louis Cardinals to nearly four years in prison for hacking the Houston Astros’ player-personnel database and email system.
“Electronics is the world we live in today,” Girardi said. “It’s changed the world we live in and it will continue to change as we move on. Again, there has to be something the catcher, the pitcher and the middle infielders can do to combat all this. Football’s gone to headset. They’ve talked about how they don’t know how feasible that is in the game of baseball, but I think we have to try something.”
http://nytimes.com/2017/09/05/sports/baseball/boston-red-sox-stealing-signs-yankees.html
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