Biden’s world. So how are the poor folks liking their votes so far?

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Biden’s world. So how are the poor folks liking their votes so far?

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So question.

When gas was amazing during the first year of Covid, was that thanks to Trudeau (just to keep Canadian perspective?).

And now that it's high again, is that also Trudeau's fault?

Or is Gas controlled by markets and the corporations who deal in it, thus it's not under the control of any world leader per say, so it can't be Trump OR Biden's fault if the gas goes up or down?
 

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Six of the latest 20 posts are new threads related to Joe Biden. It would make it easier to follow if they were combined and a new thread not started every time he takes a crap. Just my opinion.
 

petros

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So question.

When gas was amazing during the first year of Covid, was that thanks to Trudeau (just to keep Canadian perspective?).

And now that it's high again, is that also Trudeau's fault?

Or is Gas controlled by markets and the corporations who deal in it, thus it's not under the control of any world leader per say, so it can't be Trump OR Biden's fault if the gas goes up or down?
We don't need a US based gasoline market. We could be 100% selfsuffient. Which PM stopped that from happening? Which US President decided the US should import as little oil as possible by boat? Who built pipelines? Who blocked them.

See where this is going?
 
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So question.

When gas was amazing during the first year of Covid, was that thanks to Trudeau (just to keep Canadian perspective?).

And now that it's high again, is that also Trudeau's fault?

Or is Gas controlled by markets and the corporations who deal in it, thus it's not under the control of any world leader per say, so it can't be Trump OR Biden's fault if the gas goes up or down?
Depends on how you relate taxes and government policies to prices. The drop in price a year ago was mostly due to bad government policies that effectively shut down the economy, causing an unexpected over supply that needed to be moved while plants curbed production. Note that the carbon scam tax went up in the middle of an economic lockdown. In Canada we have a federal government that has deliberately made oil production harder and much more expensive, to the point where almost any other country in the world is a better choice for investment.
It is also interesting to note that none of the restrictive rules or taxes to Canadian oil production and distribution apply to dirty imported oil that the turdOWE family gets a slice of the profits from.
 
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So question.

When gas was amazing during the first year of Covid, was that thanks to Trudeau (just to keep Canadian perspective?).

And now that it's high again, is that also Trudeau's fault?

Or is Gas controlled by markets and the corporations who deal in it, thus it's not under the control of any world leader per say, so it can't be Trump OR Biden's fault if the gas goes up or down?
Commodity prices are determined by the Market who, in turn react to government policies and regulations so JT can bare some responsibility for the additional tax placed on gas.
 
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B00Mer

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Commodity prices are determined by the Market who, in turn react to government policies and regulations so JT can bare some responsibility for the additional tax placed on gas.

Trudeau has nothing to do with our fuel prices, other than the added Carbon Taxes..

We ship out oil to the USA and buy it back as a refined products. So we are always buying foreign gasoline.

Trump has the USA energy dependent, Biden is now screwed the USA so deeply even the Middle Class idiots who voted for the Senile Kiddy Groper in the White House are shaking their heads.
 

B00Mer

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Quebec. Quelle suprise! They aren't Canada, they're Quebec.

Let me guess Ontario is not part of Canada either..

How Much Oil Does Canada Import? Too Much! - Canada Action

 

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Sorry Petro, didn't know you swung over as a Trudeau fan.. talk about being a soft dick

Where does Canada’s gasoline come from? - Thoughtful Journalism About Energy's Future (energi.media)
Irony is when you're the PM of Canada and your family fortune was literally built on gasoline but you bust your ass doing what you can to kill oil production in Canada so super ethical countries like Mexico, Russia and Kazakhstan and super hypocritical states like California can fill the world's heavy oil needs.
 
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Sorry Petro, didn't know you swung over as a Trudeau fan.. talk about being a soft dick

Where does Canada’s gasoline come from? - Thoughtful Journalism About Energy's Future (energi.media)
Importing crude for refining is different than importing refined fuel

Just as Canadian refineries process both domestic and imported oil, gasoline terminals import gasoline in addition to domestic supply. Although Canada is a net exporter of gasoline, some imports are required to meet local demand due to differences in regional production.

Quebec generally imports the most gasoline, much of which is subsequently shipped to Ontario. The Atlantic Provinces and British Columbia are the next largest importers of gasoline. The Yukon occasionally imports gasoline from Alaska.

The following quote from your article fails to recognize Line 5 and Line 9 that transports Canadian crude from Enbridge Superior Wisc. hub to Sarnia and Montreal for domestic refining


Three major pipelines connect Edmonton, the hub of western Canadian gasoline production, to major metropolitan areas in British Columbia and the Prairie Provinces. The southbound Alberta Products Pipeline carries gasoline destined for terminals in Calgary. The Trans Mountain pipeline runs west, supplying terminals in Kamloops and Burnaby, British Columbia. Eastbound, the Enbridge Mainline carries gasoline to terminals in Regina, Saskatchewan, and as far as Gretna, Manitoba.

Drawing from the Enbridge Mainline, the Saskatchewan Pipeline transports gasoline from Milden, Saskatchewan, to terminals in Saskatoon, and the Winnipeg Products Pipeline from Gretna to Winnipeg, Manitoba.

Mentioned here

Transportation in Central and Atlantic Canada​

The Sarnia Products Pipeline and Sun Canadian Pipelines connect refineries in Sarnia to terminals in London, Hamilton, and Toronto. The bi-directional Trans-Northern Pipeline flows north from the Nanticoke refinery, supplying Oakville, Mississauga, and Toronto; and south from Montreal to Toronto and Ottawa. Quebec’s easternmost Jean-Gaulin refinery connects to a terminal in Montreal East via the St Laurent Pipeline, as well as by rail.

Most storage terminals in Ontario are supplied by pipeline; significant volumes are also moved by ship and rail, and some small shipments by truck. Marine terminals at the Jean-Gaulin refinery and in Montreal supply most terminals around Quebec. Nearly all terminals in the Atlantic Provinces are supplied by ship from the Saint John and Come by Chance refineries, with small volumes transported by rail and truck. Atlantic refineries also occasionally supply gasoline by ship to terminals in Nunavut.

As of 2017, there were 21 terminals in Ontario, 11 in Quebec, and 16 terminals in Atlantic Canada registered with Environment and Climate Change Canada.

Over 90% of our fuel is produced in Canada, it is illegal to transport refined fuel underground to cross the border and have to be transported overland by permit, as per trade agreement cemented in NAFTA to protect jobs in both countries

Only exception is Lower BC with the agreement with Wash. state
 
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