Biden aides find second batch of classified documents at new location

[pgs]

And that ain’t baloney .

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Um. . . you gotta read the article.

HOW DO THE TWO CASES DIFFER?​

Legal experts say there are stark contrasts between the two cases.

In Trump's case, the National Archives tried for more than a year after Trump left office to retrieve all of the records he retained, without success. When Trump finally returned 15 boxes of documents in January 2022, Archives officials discovered they contained classified materials.

The matter was referred to the Justice Department, which issued a grand jury subpoena last May seeking the return of all classified records. Investigators then visited Trump's home, where his attorneys handed over more material and asserted there were no more documents on the premises.

That turned out to be false. Additional evidence collected by the FBI, including surveillance footage from the Mar-a-Lago estate, prompted agents to seek court approval to execute a search warrant on Aug. 8 amid concerns over possible obstruction.

The FBI recovered an additional 13,000 documents, about 100 of which were marked as classified.

In Biden's case, Garland said the president's attorneys informed the Archives and the Justice Department in November that they had discovered fewer than a dozen classified files inside a closet at the Penn Biden Center think tank in Washington D.C. earlier that month.

After the discovery, the attorneys continued to conduct additional searches at Biden's homes in Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, where more documents were found in both December and this month. All were turned over to the authorities.

I read the article. I don't see the difference aside from how the documents were discovered/reported. Is that the difference? Not too significant.

 

[The_Foxer]

Um. . . you gotta read the article.

HOW DO THE TWO CASES DIFFER?​

Legal experts say there are stark contrasts between the two cases.

In Trump's case, the National Archives tried for more than a year after Trump left office to retrieve all of the records he retained, without success. When Trump finally returned 15 boxes of documents in January 2022, Archives officials discovered they contained classified materials.

The matter was referred to the Justice Department, which issued a grand jury subpoena last May seeking the return of all classified records. Investigators then visited Trump's home, where his attorneys handed over more material and asserted there were no more documents on the premises.

That turned out to be false. Additional evidence collected by the FBI, including surveillance footage from the Mar-a-Lago estate, prompted agents to seek court approval to execute a search warrant on Aug. 8 amid concerns over possible obstruction.

The FBI recovered an additional 13,000 documents, about 100 of which were marked as classified.

In Biden's case, Garland said the president's attorneys informed the Archives and the Justice Department in November that they had discovered fewer than a dozen classified files inside a closet at the Penn Biden Center think tank in Washington D.C. earlier that month.

After the discovery, the attorneys continued to conduct additional searches at Biden's homes in Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, where more documents were found in both December and this month. All were turned over to the authorities.

Well they're entirely wrong of course. The cases do not differ as far as the documents go. There is no 'volume' requirement to the law as far as i've seen. You don't get x pounds of illegal classified storage free or anything. You take one page, 10 pages, 100 pages, it's all the same.

Secondly as far as the denial goes that's a seperate issue. One could say that trump has somehow lied to the authorities or committed a form of obstruction, but that would only mean trump has committed TWO offenses (that he's never been charged for), but the offense him and biden share would be the same.

And i read that someone found the documents. So the ONLY reason they were looking for the documents and turned them in is because he got caught. Same as trump. His aides weren't just hanging out admiring his corvette.

 

[spaminator]

the classified documents disclosed that he was dead during his vice presidency.

 

[The_Foxer]

the classified documents disclosed that he was dead during his vice presidency.

Why would that be classified - it certainly wasn't a secret.

 

[harrylee]

 

[The_Foxer]

All he's got to do is say he forgot about them when he got home. Seriously, with the way his brain is who WOULDN'T believe that.

 

[feduptaxpayer]

They say that but they completely fail to explain why. The only thing that they say is Biden likely won't be charged because they have a policy of not charging sitting presidents.

So, we can wait for old Biden to pack it in, and than he can be charged later just like Trump was. I can wait if in the end the old senile creature ends up in jail. This Biden fool and family are so corrupt that he can even put the likes of Al Capone and John Gotti to shame.

 

[The_Foxer]

So, we can wait for old Biden to pack it in, and than he can be charged later just like Trump was. I can wait if in the end the old senile creature ends up in jail.

I don't think Trump has been charged.

 

[feduptaxpayer]

I don't think Trump has been charged.

Trump has not been charged because the corrupt Biden regime could not get Trump on anything. Trump came out clean as a whistle.

 

[The_Foxer]

Trump has not been charged because the corrupt Biden regime could not get Trump on anything. Trump came out clean as a whistle.

Well that's certainly what one might infer from the fact they haven't charged him despite the 'big raid' happening ages ago, or with anything else over the last 4 years. How much fbi time and money got spent on "russian collusion" that turned out not to exist?

 

[Twin_Moose]

There is more than meets the eye here, what's the end game? Funny how the documents were found after the GOP announced an investigation into the swamp, by announcing the special investigator before the GOP issued subpoenas they actually protect the documents from discovery.

 

[Twin_Moose]

 

[harrylee]

 

[harrylee]

Joe: Honey, have you seen my keys?
Jill: They're in the box marked Top Secret.
Joe: Which one?

 

[Dixie Cup]

It's now 3 areas that they've found documents. How many more are there without them "raiding" his homes like they did Trump?

 

[Dixie Cup]

Well they're entirely wrong of course. The cases do not differ as far as the documents go. There is no 'volume' requirement to the law as far as i've seen. You don't get x pounds of illegal classified storage free or anything. You take one page, 10 pages, 100 pages, it's all the same.

Secondly as far as the denial goes that's a seperate issue. One could say that trump has somehow lied to the authorities or committed a form of obstruction, but that would only mean trump has committed TWO offenses (that he's never been charged for), but the offense him and biden share would be the same.

And i read that someone found the documents. So the ONLY reason they were looking for the documents and turned them in is because he got caught. Same as trump. His aides weren't just hanging out admiring his corvette.

The problem is that Trump wasn't "hiding" anything. In fact, he was in the process of negotiating the documents with the National ARchives AND the FBI had access and could have taken the boxes from Mara Lego any time they wanted to but instead, told Trump to ensure that there was a lock placed on the room that had the documents. Then, for whatever reason, they "raided" the place to make it look sooooo awful when they could have taken the documents weeks prior. The way the whole thing was handled was to make it look like Trump was being "bad" but of course Biden being "good" there is now supposedly a "difference." There isn't except that Biden is a Democrat so it will be handled differently even tho' really, Biden's is much worse. Trump was dealing with it - Biden was not pleading that he "didn't know" they were there. Yet how many times were these boxes moved & people didn't know what was in them? Huh - apparently in their corner, ignorance IS an excuse.

 

[Taxslave2]

Um. . . you gotta read the article.

HOW DO THE TWO CASES DIFFER?​

Legal experts say there are stark contrasts between the two cases.

In Trump's case, the National Archives tried for more than a year after Trump left office to retrieve all of the records he retained, without success. When Trump finally returned 15 boxes of documents in January 2022, Archives officials discovered they contained classified materials.

The matter was referred to the Justice Department, which issued a grand jury subpoena last May seeking the return of all classified records. Investigators then visited Trump's home, where his attorneys handed over more material and asserted there were no more documents on the premises.

That turned out to be false. Additional evidence collected by the FBI, including surveillance footage from the Mar-a-Lago estate, prompted agents to seek court approval to execute a search warrant on Aug. 8 amid concerns over possible obstruction.

The FBI recovered an additional 13,000 documents, about 100 of which were marked as classified.

In Biden's case, Garland said the president's attorneys informed the Archives and the Justice Department in November that they had discovered fewer than a dozen classified files inside a closet at the Penn Biden Center think tank in Washington D.C. earlier that month.

After the discovery, the attorneys continued to conduct additional searches at Biden's homes in Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, where more documents were found in both December and this month. All were turned over to the authorities.

The only difference is that we are asked to believe Biden's attorney that there were only a few documents left lying around. Know anyone that believes what a lawyer says? anyone?

 

[The_Foxer]

The problem is that Trump wasn't "hiding" anything. In fact, he was in the process of negotiating the documents with the National ARchives AND the FBI had access and could have taken the boxes from Mara Lego any time they wanted to but instead, told Trump to ensure that there was a lock placed on the room that had the documents. Then, for whatever reason, they "raided" the place to make it look sooooo awful when they could have taken the documents weeks prior. The way the whole thing was handled was to make it look like Trump was being "bad" but of course Biden being "good" there is now supposedly a "difference." There isn't except that Biden is a Democrat so it will be handled differently even tho' really, Biden's is much worse. Trump was dealing with it - Biden was not pleading that he "didn't know" they were there. Yet how many times were these boxes moved & people didn't know what was in them? Huh - apparently in their corner, ignorance IS an excuse.

I had heard that at one point he had denied having the docs, but you can only trust the media so far of course.

However - negotiation or not he didn't turn them over when asked and that's a problem. You don't "negotiate" stopping committing a crime and then expect not to be charged. If you steal something and the cop says 'give it back', if you don't then you're still committing the crime, period.

But at the end of the day it's still a seperate issue. What biden did in keeping the records is no different than what trump did. If they want to try to make a case for a second crime but that doesn't make the first crime any different. At best it might make a difference in sentencing but he's still committed the same 'Crime".

Well - i mean we keep calling it a crime because the dems did while it was trump, but I do notice that neither has actually been charged.

 

[Dixie Cup]

I had heard that at one point he had denied having the docs, but you can only trust the media so far of course.

However - negotiation or not he didn't turn them over when asked and that's a problem. You don't "negotiate" stopping committing a crime and then expect not to be charged. If you steal something and the cop says 'give it back', if you don't then you're still committing the crime, period.

But at the end of the day it's still a seperate issue. What biden did in keeping the records is no different than what trump did. If they want to try to make a case for a second crime but that doesn't make the first crime any different. At best it might make a difference in sentencing but he's still committed the same 'Crime".

Well - i mean we keep calling it a crime because the dems did while it was trump, but I do notice that neither has actually been charged.

But the FBI had already been at Trump's home and could have taken the stuff then but decided not to. That's not on Trump. They could have taken everything at that time but wanted to ensure that publicly, Trump would be embarrassed thus the raid. It was politics plain & simple.