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As you know, they have already had a select committee investigate this. And countless bureaucrats have investigated this.
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Do you know the difference between a Select Committee and a Standing Committee? If so, tell me when Congress "already had a select committee investigate [Benghazi]?

What is another investigation, one that is entirely partisan(the committee is 7 to 5 in favor of the republicans, and only the republican chair has subpoena power) going to accomplish, other than generate more talking points for the Republicans to raise money off the deaths of these people?

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In a democracy objective truth is a weapon to be wielded by political opponents. The motive of one's opponents doesn't alter the nature of objective truth. Objective truth must be exposed to the light of day in order for a democratic political system to self-correct for policy errors. Those harmed by objective truth must simply take the pain. No pain no gain. Learn it, live it, love it.
 
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BaalsTears said:
Do you know the difference between a Select Committee and a Standing Committee? If so, tell me when Congress "already had a select committee investigate [Benghazi]?
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http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf


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In a democracy objective truth is a weapon to be wielded by political opponents. The motive of one's opponents doesn't alter the nature of objective truth. Objective truth must be exposed to the light of day in order for a democratic political system to self-correct for policy errors. Those harmed by objective truth must simply take the pain. No pain no gain. Learn it, live it, love it.
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What is objective about a bunch of fiercely partisan politicians beating the same issue over and over against for political gain? How can you consider any findings from that process to be "objective"?

Why should anyone try to benefit financially from the deaths of these men in Benghazi?
 
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http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf
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Nice try. The Senate Select Committee is controlled by the Democrats who can't be expected to honestly investigate a Democratic president. It's not independent. Whitewash. In the US only a Select Committee controlled by the opposing party (to the president) will not whitewash a president's administration or rubber stamp his/her decisions/actions. It's the political culture.




What is objective about a bunch of fiercely partisan politicians beating the same issue over and over against for political gain? How can you consider any findings from that process to be "objective"?

Why should anyone try to benefit financially from the deaths of these men in Benghazi?
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It's called the clash of ideas. The House Select Committee will be the first independent and dedicated committee to investigate the administration's actions in connection with Benghazi.
 
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Nice try. The Senate Select Committee is controlled by the Democrats who can't be expected to honestly investigate a Democratic president. It's not independent. Whitewash. In the US only a Select Committee controlled by the opposing party (to the president) will not whitewash a president's administration or rubber stamp his/her decisions/actions. It's the political culture.
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Nice try? You suggested that there was no select committee investigation into this, and you are objectively wrong. I thought you were a big fan of objective facts just a few hours ago?

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It's called the clash of ideas. The House Select Committee will be the first independent and dedicated committee to investigate the administration's actions in connection with Benghazi.
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In what world is an investigation conducted by people who have clearly stated that they are biased against the people being investigated considered "independent"?

It is not a "clash of ideas" in any way. The republicans are just going to out vote the democrats on everything, the democrats will have no ability to compel anyone to appear before the committee. The only interests served by this will be the republicans. When this report is released, are you going to refer to it as the Republican view of this, or are you going to pretend that this was a legitimate investigation of the incident, because if it is the second one, that certainly doesn't support your "clash of ideas" claim.

Having politicians of any stripe conduct investigations is a farce and anyone with any respect for justice knows this. In no other setting would an investigation conducted by people who clearly state that they are biased before the investigation even starts be considered legitimate.
 
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Michelle MalkinVerified account ‏@michellemalkin

Eleanor Clift used sarcastic air quotes when she claimed Ambassador Stevens wasn't murdered. http://twitchy.com/2014/05/11/moronic-columnist-ripped-for-despicable-suggestion-that-ambassador-stevens-wasnt-murdered-in-benghazi/ … pic.twitter.com/G8Ue3HsBKK




‘Moronic’: Columnist ripped for ‘despicable’ suggestion that Ambassador Stevens wasn’t murdered in Benghazi | Twitchy

This ignorant bitch should choke and die.
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How many times do you need to post the same stories?
 
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How many times do you need to post the same stories?
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How many times will it take you to read ? If you would have you might just have noticed they were different stories on the same topic .
But on the same vein how many times can you state the same point on a single forum ?
 
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How many times will it take you to read ? If you would have you might just have noticed they were different stories on the same topic .
But on the same vein how many times can you state the same point on a single forum ?
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I guess it is semantics, but I consider writing about the same thing with no different information to be the same story.

What would it take for you to read my posts? If you did, you would see that I have brought up lots of different information as it pertains to each new point that is brought up.

Maybe you would like to actually add to this topic too?
 
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I guess it is semantics, but I consider writing about the same thing with no different information to be the same story.

What would it take for you to read my posts? If you did, you would see that I have brought up lots of different information as it pertains to each new point that is brought up.

Maybe you would like to actually add to this topic too?
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I have I stand by my statements regarding the currant administration abandoning their troops against all American protocol .


No man left behind .
 
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I have I stand by my statements regarding the currant administration abandoning their troops against all American protocol .


No man left behind .
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There is no evidence to support the that claim. The US did send all the help that they could muster.
 
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You never get tired of being wrong. Pertinent stuff starts around 2:30.
Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell to Congress on Benghazi: "We Should Have Tried" | Video | RealClearPolitics
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“There might be some who, for various and sundry reasons, would like to distort your testimony and suggest that you’re testifying that we could have, should have done a lot more than we did because we had capabilities we simply didn’t utilize,” Rep. Gerald Connolly, D-Va., said. “That is not your testimony.”

“That is not my testimony,” Lovell testified. “No, sir.”

U.S. General Tells Congress: ‘We Should Have Tried’ In Benghazi - ABC News

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I think there might have been a series of firm, but polite, 'Hey, stop that' tweets. Mayhaps a stern email.
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And moving CIA teams and military assets to the scene to assist.
 
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If you didn't keep the argument going.....the thread would expire on its own.....but nope......


You could be the one with all the hair.............




 
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If you didn't keep the argument going.....the thread would expire on its own.....but nope......
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Unfortunately, this argument is going to be perpetuated for at least another 6 months. Then picked up again if Hillary decides to make a run for the oval office.

Why would you want to let these men rest in peace when they could be used political pawns and fundraising material?
 
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