BC rejects Northern Gateway proposal
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On pontoons in the Skeena River? -
Hang it under the rail bridge or tunnel like they do for water mains.
I have to agree with cliffy that Kitimat isn't the best of locations although the waterway is big enough. There has been large freighters going to Kitimat for almost 60 years without mishap but there will soon be 3 LNG plants there as well.
Even if the pipeline was to follow existing right of ways would be better than cutting a new one.
I favor a pipe right past Kitimat to Millbank sound where it is protected by the islands but only a few hours at most to open water. That way there is no guessing weather conditions. The choice of Kitimat seems to be based on shortest route to salt water.
You have it all wrong .
You'r the hater.
Not me
You hate the Federal government.
I am pretty much OK with it.
You hate the fact that the Con's have stacked the upper house and will be bending the will of any elected Federal party for countless years to come.
I am cool with it.
You hate it so bad it burns deep down.
And the rest of us can smell it on you.
You hate the fact that Canada is an exporting resource rich country.
I think Canada is lucky.
You tell me I should move to Nigeria because of Shell Oil's development.
Says you?
Been to Nigeria.
Along with dozens upon dozens of other countries.
Contracted out to Shell a time or two.
I choose not to live in Nigeria.
But what do you know about Nigeria and it's people and problems?
Nothing is my guess.
I live on Vancouver Island by choice.
I hold an EU passport as well as a Canadian one.
And an old expired green card for that matter.
Worked outside of Canada for 25 years.
And paid every nickle of owed taxes back into Canada.
I know exactly how the Norwegian's, the Dutch, the Danish, the German's, the French, the Italian's and the Brit's develop their resources.
Because I contracted out to their governments and helped them do it.
If they can do it why can't we?
Why should they develop their countries and not us here at home in Canada?
Why is it OK for them and not us?
Why do you hate Canada so much?
Why are you against resource development here in Canada that many environmentally sensitive European countries perform on a constant basis?
If people like me, a Canadian have to go over to Europe to show the Europeans how to safely and sustainably develop their local resources it goes without saying that we Canadians can easily do the same.
Do you hate the thought of jobs for our youth?
Do you hate the tax base that pays for schools and hospitals?
Do you hate the development that takes care of our sick and old?
All to turn Canada into an impoverished National Park
Why is it that you want our country to be poor?
I can easily live almost anywhere in the world I choose to.
I choose Canada.
You are the one that hates Canada.
And you are the one that should try making your way elsewhere for a few years.
I recommend Cuba.
I spent 4 years there and learned a lot.
Why don't you give it a go?
Come back and tell us all about how great it is.
People keep saying the port of Vancouver is everyone's port not so in my opinion. BC
territory should mean just that. If in fact the Feds want to take control of BC lands and
ports etc there are two cases to be made. Years ago Glen Clark said the missile tests
could not take place in BC Waters. The Feds took control of the test site. In the courts
I believe the BC position was proven to be right after the fact.
If the Federal Government were to actually push this down the throats of British Columbians,
I would consider joining a separatist party to prevent that from happening. I am not a
separatist by any stretch of the imagination but this would be a last straw for me.
BC had best stand up for itself. People bitch about Quebec all the time however they do stand
up for themselves and refuse to be pushed around.
territory should mean just that. If in fact the Feds want to take control of BC lands and
ports etc there are two cases to be made. Years ago Glen Clark said the missile tests
could not take place in BC Waters. The Feds took control of the test site. In the courts
I believe the BC position was proven to be right after the fact.
If the Federal Government were to actually push this down the throats of British Columbians,
I would consider joining a separatist party to prevent that from happening. I am not a
separatist by any stretch of the imagination but this would be a last straw for me.
BC had best stand up for itself. People bitch about Quebec all the time however they do stand
up for themselves and refuse to be pushed around.
Wait and see what the Feds do. I suspect that they may fast track the deep water port in Nunavut proposal at which time, BC is no longer the place to build LNGs
All the NIMBYs stand and are counted when something like this happens... Of course, they are the first ones to bleat and moan about the cost of gas too.
Ironic, ain't it?
I totally agree with your sentiments.
That said, the risk that every province takes is that the neighbouring province will have the very same power to pick and choose what they want to allow through.
If a pipeline can be nixed, then so can a road or railway
Reign in the rhetoric, Cliffy. Much as I disagree with the proposed tanker route, I can see the economic benefits to our province of the pipeline and we need those benefits. The government is saying they are not satisfied with environmental safeguards proposed by Enbridge. Considering their abysmal record so far, I must agree with our government. The best of all possible worlds would see the current Enbridge board fired and a new one elected that hopefully would care more about leaky pipelines then the bottom line.
Better brush up on cave decor because without fossil fuels that is where you will be living.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
I highly doubt this stance by our government means an end to the pipeline, ts. I see no problem with our gov't demanding environmental assurances before they sign on - one only has to look at the record of Enbridge regarding environmental concerns to see the necessity of such demands.
I can certainly understand the desire for the serenity of living in the bush by a nice creek, packing water and snaring rabbits and making your own soap out of hog fat and ashes, but that doesn't appear to be the way of the world anymore. I think with some fine tuning of the plans, over time the project will go ahead to most people's advantage.
I can certainly understand the desire for the serenity of living in the bush by a nice creek, packing water and snaring rabbits and making your own soap out of hog fat and ashes, but that doesn't appear to be the way of the world anymore. I think with some fine tuning of the plans, over time the project will go ahead to most people's advantage.
When the first oil train crashes don't come crying to me.
43,000 people in BC rely on Ports jobs. It doesn't matter to me which ocean my goods come and go from and I'll gladly invest in Manitoba ports.
I guess oil with have to go smack dab through the blind polar bear park in Churchill MB.
43,000 people in BC rely on Ports jobs. It doesn't matter to me which ocean my goods come and go from and I'll gladly invest in Manitoba ports.
I guess oil with have to go smack dab through the blind polar bear park in Churchill MB.
That depends on wether you view Canada as a nation that works for a common good or a bunch of principalities that fight for the biggest cut and in the process destroy the whole.