B.C. pipeline protests continue to halt Ontario trains for 5th day in a row

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And in case anyone was wondering the BC Liberal promise to eliminate all provincial debt by 2028 through new natural gas taxes is probably not going to come true.

That's why the Site c Dam

That's why the coastal gaslink

Thats why the BC Liberals are gone.
 

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There is certainly something different between the way things are done in America and how there are done in Canada. In America they appear to be quite pro business. Climate change and the environment does not get in the way of big projects all that much anymore in America thanks to Donald Trump. Trump has relaxed plenty of environmental rules and regulations that have gotten in the way of trying to help companies get their big projects up and running. And the American Indians appear to have no problem signing agreements. In Canada trying to get a project and jobs going seems to be quite the task. I guess that there really is a difference between capitalism in America and liberal socialism in Canada. I could be wrong, but that is what I am seeing here.
Why sign agreements when you get your money for nothing and your chicks for free ?
 

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Canada will never achieve and see it's full potential until the liberal socialists are booted out of office for good and Canada can finally get a real and true conservative party in power that believes in more freedom, less taxes, and less government rules and regulations which is what is killing investment in this country. The hurdles that one has to jump to start a business in Canada must be astronomical. Our dollar(peso)alone tells me that something is going wrong in this once great nation. The government has to be the problem.
A true conservative government would never put up with the Quebec political mafia , we have never had a true conservative government .
 

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Four people charged in connection with Hamilton Wet’suwet’en solidarity rail blockade

Hamilton police have arrested four people allegedly involved in the blockade of the rail tracks by the York Boulevard bridge earlier this week.
The protest near Bayview Junction began at around 5 p.m. on Monday, with organizers posting on Facebook that it was in solidarity with Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs who oppose the Coastal GasLink Pipeline in northern British Columbia, as well as those arrested when Ontario Provincial Police dismantled a blockade in Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory earlier that day.

The blockade led to train service being suspended Monday evening and all day Tuesday at Niagara Falls, St. Catharines, Hamilton and West Harbour GO stations.
At the height of the protest, there were about 30 people on the tracks and police say they saw two fires started on the lines.
CN Rail served the protesters with an injunction to leave the site on Monday.

According to a post on the group's Facebook page, they "happily burned" it and remained on the track until peacefully leaving the area at around 5 p.m. the next day.
Hamilton police say they arrested three people on Wednesday evening, and a fourth person turned themself in on Thursday morning.
Thirty-four-year-old Barry Conway, 25-year-old Woodrow Fraser-Boychuck, 35-year-old Patricia Mills, and 38-year-old Erin Warner — all of Hamilton — are charged with two counts of damage to property and two counts of interfering with the lawful use of property.
 

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Did Pilsner foresee this day coming?

BTW can you count the rabbits?
There aren't any rabbits. Those are hares.
 

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Was our resident chiefs invited to these talks?

Pipeline talks with hereditary chiefs set for second day in northern B.C.

SMITHERS, B.C. — The hereditary chiefs of the Wet'suwet'en are scheduled to meet for a second day with senior federal and provincial ministers today as they try to break an impasse in a pipeline dispute that's sparked national protests and led to disruptions in the economy.
Federal Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett and British Columbia Indigenous Relations Minister Scott Fraser began the long-sought talks Thursday afternoon.
They wrapped up after about three hours with Fraser saying the talks were productive and the mood in the room was respectful.

Bennett said it was a "very good start."
Hereditary Chief Na'moks left without making a statement.
Fraser says it wouldn't be appropriate to release details of what was discussed.
"We don't want to jeopardize anything," he added. "We had a productive day today and we're hoping for a very solid day tomorrow, too."
Before the meeting began, both the RCMP and Coastal GasLink said they agreed to conditions requested by the chiefs to allow the discussions to progress.
The natural gas company agreed to a two-day pause in its activities in northwestern B.C., while the RCMP committed to ending patrols along a critical roadway while the negotiations unfold.

The hereditary chiefs' opposition to a natural gas pipeline cutting across their traditional territory, coupled with their efforts to limit police presence on their lands, have sparked shows of support across the country that have halted rail service for the past three weeks.
The dispute over the Coastal GasLink pipeline project began months ago, but tensions began to rise on Dec. 31 when the B.C. Supreme Court granted the company an injunction calling for the removal of any obstructions from roads, bridges or work sites it has been authorized to use in Wet'suwet'en territory.
The RCMP moved in to enforce that injunction on Feb. 6. Hours later, protesters started holding up railway traffic outside of Belleville, Ont., in solidarity with the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs, thwarting freight and passenger rail travel.

If Bennett gives one penny in tax payer money in appeasement to end the stand off would be a fail IMO
 

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WARMINGTON: Attacking trains in Canada punishable by life in prison

You know it was wrong when even one of the key Mohawks behind the original blockade is disgusted by attempts to derail a CN freight train.

Still, strangely, some believe lighting wooden skids on fire to jam under a moving train is a retaliatory and justified civil protest over gas pipeline grievances and not a crime.

Of course the Criminal Code of Canada makes it clear.

Under Section 284, “Interfering with transportation facilities,” it states “every one who, with intent to endanger the safety of any person, places anything on or does anything to any property that is used for or in connection with the transportation of persons or goods by land, water or air that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to persons is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.”

Life in prison! You read it right.

No wonder Andrew Brant went to social media to scold those throwing rocks, setting fires and dropping impediments on the tracks near Tyendinaga.

“I hope you are proud for what you did in front of the whole world today,” Brant said in a Facebook live commentary at 10 p.m. Wednesday. “You don’t react like that. It’s exactly what they want you to do.”

Brant is a tough but fair customer who clearly has a breaking point.

“You made us look like Sh– in front of the whole world,” he said. “You don’t tarnish the entire image of a great nation.”

Brant also reminded Mohawk Warriors are a “strong military force to be reckoned with but that is because we are so peaceful.”

Warriors, he said, “have our weapons” for “defence” and “don’t attack.”

Calling it “not cool,” Brant added “what you need to do is not be setting sh– on fire on the tracks.”

He also called for people to “not do anything stupid anymore … “keep our fires sacred” … and “don’t be a d—.”

That should set straight commentators trying to justify what was nothing more than dangerous criminal behaviour on non-native land with homes and families and against a train with innocent souls on board.

None of those turning a blind eye would do so if supporters of Rob or Doug Ford were involved or, heaven forbid, were wearing read MAGA hats. It would be terrorism then.

Under terrorism in the Criminal Code, Section 83.01 (1) states: “The following definitions apply in this part that intentionally (A) causes death or serious bodily harm to a person by the use of violence, (B) endangers a person’s life, (C) causes a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or any segment of the public, (D) causes substantial property damage, whether to public or private property” and “(E) causes serious interference with or serious disruption of an essential service, facility or system, whether public or private, other than as a result of advocacy, protest, dissent or stoppage of work that is not intended to result in the conduct or harm.”

To summarize, those involved in trying to crash this train could be charged with terrorism and locked up for life. If they were supporters of President Donald Trump, those giving these disrupters a pass would be calling for just that.

torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-attacking-trains-in-canada-punishable-by-life-in-prison
 

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The following video would work well for the wet'suwet'en chiefs instead of islam!

While an apology from the 5 recalcitrant chiefs from the Wet'suwet'en community for encouraging those erecting illegal blockades is most certainly due, I doubt they will have the cojones to do so. For decades our country has endeavored to bring about some solution to the issues surrounding Indigenous governance and the numerous problems facing many Indigenous communities. Undoubtedly there is a lot more work to do but it would be nice to hear at least one thank you to Canada for trying. The majority of Canadians support reconciliation, as attested to by a number of recent polls. How about an encouraging word from the chiefs for that support.
 

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Given the likelihood (near certainty) of "unintended consequences," that's a good thing, for this crime and for arson.
We'll see what comes from the talks taking place today with the Wet'suwet'en and Canadian government reps - poor old Carol Bennett is looking a little ragged around the edges. All the demands of the Wet'suwet'en have been met - the police have withdrawn and Coastal Gaslink suspended operations for the duration of the talks. They met for a sum total of 3 hours yesterday and according to one member at the meeting, the only thing accomplished was 'introductions.' Sigh
 

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We'll see what comes from the talks taking place today with the Wet'suwet'en and Canadian government reps - poor old Carol Bennett is looking a little ragged around the edges. All the demands of the Wet'suwet'en have been met - the police have withdrawn and Coastal Gaslink suspended operations for the duration of the talks. They met for a sum total of 3 hours yesterday and according to one member at the meeting, the only thing accomplished was 'introductions.' Sigh
Poor Ms Bennett . She finding out that not only liberals know the delaying game . Much to her consternation.
 

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Poor Ms Bennett . She finding out that not only liberals know the delaying game . Much to her consternation.


She found out a long time ago about that, pgs. She was the chair of the MMWI after all. That stint did little to stop the grey hairs from sprouting. I give the woman credit, she has to have ball of steel to put up with all the peripheral activities that take place around any meetings with activist Indigenous groups who then have the audacity to complain about lack of time.

The meeting yesterday was 3 hours long and what got accomplished? Introductions.
 

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She found out a long time ago about that, pgs. She was the chair of the MMWI after all. That stint did little to stop the grey hairs from sprouting. I give the woman credit, she has to have ball of steel to put up with all the peripheral activities that take place around any meetings with activist Indigenous groups who then have the audacity to complain about lack of time.

The meeting yesterday was 3 hours long and what got accomplished? Introductions.
Sorry if I don’t feel sorry for her .
 

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We'll see what comes from the talks taking place today with the Wet'suwet'en and Canadian government reps - poor old Carol Bennett is looking a little ragged around the edges. All the demands of the Wet'suwet'en have been met - the police have withdrawn and Coastal Gaslink suspended operations for the duration of the talks. They met for a sum total of 3 hours yesterday and according to one member at the meeting, the only thing accomplished was 'introductions.' Sigh
We’ve been hearing about the evolving demands from one side of this “ Negotiation,” but I haven’t heard anything about any demands from the other side of this “negotiation” ??? No demands or requests from the government of Canada? If not then I’m assuming it’s not much of a negotiation....
 

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We’ve been hearing about the evolving demands from one side of this “ Negotiation,” but I haven’t heard anything about any demands from the other side of this “negotiation” ??? No demands or requests from the government of Canada? If not then I’m assuming it’s not much of a negotiation....


These negotiations are high level and extremely complex Honorary Hereditary Chief 2 Skidoos.

Why, as we speak, trudeau is girding his loins and and winding the internal springs of his powerful gvt just waiting to pounce.

I suspect that the final element is almost in place - donning the perfect uniform with which to confuse and frighten his opponents.

Behold!


 

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We’ve been hearing about the evolving demands from one side of this “ Negotiation,” but I haven’t heard anything about any demands from the other side of this “negotiation” ??? No demands or requests from the government of Canada? If not then I’m assuming it’s not much of a negotiation....
Well the spineless little twerp did say the blockades had to come down...........for all the frickin' good that did, Ron. There was one positive result for the pro side today when the Matriarchs who support the line were finally allowed at the table much to the whinging and bitching of the anti side who obviously don't believe in their own teachings that say all voices should be heard.